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Obama was a bad president

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Started: 2/3/2019 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Round 1- Acceptance
Round 2-Cases
Round 3-Defense
Round 4-Rebuttal

Good luck to my opponent.


Hello. I'm Andrea. I want to wish you good luck in this debate. Even though I don't live in America, Or have some particular opinion on Obama, I accepted this challenge because I'm trying to expand my knowledge at Debate, As my national Debate tournament is coming soon. I'll be debating in KP format. It's not very different from the one, Debate. Org is using. The only difference is that you have a criterion in this format. I don't think it's needed for you to debate in that format too, Because there's no big difference. Sorry for my grammar mistakes, English is my third language, And mistakes might happen. Once again I wish you good luck in the upcoming debate.
Debate Round No. 1


Perhaps the most well-known example of the Obama administration abusing its power to target Obama"s political enemies is the infamous IRS scandal. Over a two-year period leading up to the 2012 election, Tea party groups and other conservatives were improperly scrutinized by the IRS. Twelve different IRS offices across the country were involved and the entire operation was orchestrated out of Washington, D. C. , And there was also evidence of White House involvement. The IRS also targeted private individuals critical of Obama, GOP candidates, And Romney donors.

There are also examples of conservative individuals being targeted as the result of gross abuse of power by the Obama administration. Conservative author Dinesh D"Souza was indicted for campaign finance violations for a crime typically not prosecuted at all. James O"Keefe of Project Veritas was put on a terrorism watchlist after a video was released of him dressed as a terrorist crossing back and forth over the U. S. /Mexico border to demonstrate the lack of border security.

Obama"s pi"ce de r"sistance when it came to abuse of power is perhaps his spying on the Trump campaign. The Steele dossier on Trump (a partisan opposition research document funded by the DNC and the Hillary campaign loaded with loads of bogus and salacious accusations) was used to secure a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. Anti-Trump partisans were involved in the investigation, And based on text messages between investigators Peter Strzok and Lisa Page (who were having an affair) we know that Strzok saw the investigation as an "insurance policy" in case Trump won the election, And that Page, Worried that Trump could win, Was told by Strzok, "No. No, He won't. We'll stop it. " Other text messages indicated that Obama wanted to be kept in the loop on their investigation. The independence and integrity of the FBI took a major blow during the Obama years, And we"re still learning just how bad it was.

According to the ACLU, There was a 64 percent growth in electronic spying by the United States government during Obama"s first term. The Obama administration argued in federal court in 2012 that the public has no "reasonable expectation of privacy" regarding their cell phone location data and that the government can obtain these records without a warrant. Further blemishing Obama"s record on civil liberties, His administration green-lighted a giant government database of information on millions of citizens who weren"t even suspected of terrorism or any crime at all.

In May 2017, We also found out that Obama"s National Security Agency had been conducting illegal searches on Americans for years and was rebuked by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC). We didn"t hear about it sooner because the Obama administration covered it up.

s a candidate in 2007, Obama promised he would close the terrorist detention facility at Guant"namo Bay, Cuba (Gitmo), As soon as he was elected. He signed an executive order on January 22, 2009, Requiring Gitmo to close within one year. Congress refused to go along, So instead of closing it, He systematically purged the prison of its terrorist inmates, As a sort of end-run around congressional opposition to closure. In 2003, There were 680 prisoners. By early January 2015, There were fewer than 130, And he continued releasing prisoners through the remainder of his second term.

One retired CIA officer estimated that at least 50 percent of those released from Gitmo returned to battle against American troops, And Paul Lewis, Obama"s special envoy for Guantanamo closure, Confirmed that Americans have been killed by released Gitmo detainees.

Despite his campaign promise to bring Democrats and Republicans together to reform healthcare, Obama signed a trillion-dollar government takeover of one-sixth of the United States economy with zero Republican votes in the Senate and only one Republican vote in the House. Despite a promise of transparency, Obama and then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi made sure that the final negotiations were held behind closed doors.

And who can forget the disastrous Obamacare rollout? Aside from website problems, There was evidence that the Obama administration fudged enrollment numbers to make it appear more successful and popular than it really was. Basically, Everything connected to Obamacare was plagued with failure. The 23 taxpayer-funded healthcare co-ops nationwide established by Obamacare to compete with private health insurance providers proved to be unsustainable, And by January 2018, Only four Obamacare co-ops remained. The Obamacare co-ops were basically the health insurance version of the Solyndra boondoggle, But bigger.

The most insulting part of it all was that despite the high costs of Obamacare, Health premiums went up and coverage got worse. Remember "if you like your plan you can keep it"? That was a lie. While the Obama administration often touted the increased numbers of people who had health insurance, The number of people who delayed seeking medical care because of costs did not improve. In fact, In November 2015, The percentage of people who reported delaying medical care over costs was higher than it was before Obama even took office. So, People were forced to buy insurance even if they didn't want it, And they still couldn't afford to seek medical care because of the higher premiums. Woo-hoo!

There have been eleven recessions since World War II, Each of which was followed by a recovery. Even Obama experienced an economic recovery" it just happens to be the worst one.

All jobs lost in post-World War II recessions were recovered after about twenty-five months on average. But, It took seventy-seven months for employment to return to pre-recession levels, Making Obama"s recovery the slowest recovery of them all"and by a wide margin. Obama is also the only president in U. S. History to have never had a single year of 3. 0 percent or greater GDP growth.

When adjusted for inflation, Obama owns the seven highest deficits in history"surpassing the deficits incurred during World War II. Obama"s smallest deficit was still higher than the last deficit before he took office. While many try to argue that 2009"s spending should not count towards Obama"s spending record, 2009 was not actually constrained by the budget approved by President Bush. In fact, Only three of FY2009"s 12 appropriations bills passed under Bush because the Democrats in Congress waited until Obama took office before going on a spending binge. So most of the spending that took place in 2009 was, In fact, Approved by President Obama. This spending, Which included Obama"s failed stimulus and bailouts, Resulted in a 17. 9 percent increase in spending over FY2008 compared to the 3 percent increase proposed by George W. Bush. This increase in spending was the highest annual spending increase since the Korean War.


There are a lot more where these came from. But the truth doesn't mean much unless more people are aware of it. Liberals desperately want Obama to be remembered as a great president despite his horrible record. Don't let them succeed.

These are my main arguments and I have more. The floor is yours to present your case on why he was good.


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Debate Round No. 2


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Debate Round No. 3


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Debate Round No. 4
7 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 7 records.
Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
I had less compelling arguments than Con
Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
So I completely destroy and debunk you and you then proceed to call me a lowlife and a racist.

Good Job
Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
So I completely destroy and debunk you and you then proceed to call me a lowlife and a racist.

Good Job
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
Due to the fact by your listings of why you hate Obama and that you are clearly a racist bigoted pig, Who hates Obama for only that reasoning alone, As is crystal clear by you inventing excuses by you winging it in your listings of your hatred of Obama, It and you flat out inventing excuses for many things you tallied off the top of your head and you know it, Once again, Shows that you have absolutely no genuine friends or loved ones, A HUGE red flag. Let's take a step back and strip all the listings down and have no names here, For Obama or Trump, You would still hate Obama because once again you are a racist bigoted pig and you know it. This makes me and all of those who will not sink as low as you, Which is pretty close to 100% of the population of the planet not on your side, We're done. Bye.
Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
1. Slowest recovery form any recession
2. Disaster
3. Lead to ISIS
4. The Army discovered him
5. #1 again
6. Already legal in many states and he isn't the one who brought the case to the supreme court
7. Not an Accomplishment
8. Barely. Trump saved it
9. Lead to water crisis in Michigan
10. Lead to the Taliban regaining key strongholds in Afganistan
11Dint work, Sanctuary cities are still at its prime
12. #1 again
13. PTSD suicide rates among veterans all-time high
14. Which policies and plus achieved nothing
15. Barely did anything
16. The past 6 Presidents ahs don't his, Including Trump
17. Lead to a massive rise in cyberattacks
18. Manufacturers did it
19. Obesity is on the rise
20. Bad decision
21. Assault was already a federal offense. Nothing changed
22. Horrible Disaster.
23. The gender Wage gap is fake
24. Trump has nominated more Woman than Obama.

What has Trump done wrong to be impeached

You are a bit rude, Sir don't you think.
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
Here's a few of Obama's accomplishments. They are irrefutable. There's plenty more.
1. Rescued the country from the Great Recession, Cutting the unemployment rate from 10% to 4. 7% over six years
2. Signed the Affordable Care Act which provided health insurance to over 20 million uninsured Americans
3. Ended the war in Iraq
4. Ordered for the captue and killing of Osama Bin Laden
5. Passed the $787 billion America Recovery and Reinvestment Act to spur economic growth during the Great Recession
6. Supported the LGBT community"s fight for marriage equality
7. Commuted the sentences of nearly 1200 drug offenders to reverse "unjust and outdated prison sentences"
8. Saved the U. S. Auto industry
9. Helped put the U. S. Ontrack for energy independence by 2020
10. Began the drawdown of troops in Afghanistan
11. Signed the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals allowing as many as 5 million people living in the U. S. Illegally to avoid deportation and receive work permits
12. Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act to re-regulate the financial sector
13. Dropped the veteran homeless rate by 50 percent
14. Reversed Bush-era torture policies
15. Began the process of normalizing relations with Cuba
16. Increased Department of Veteran Affairs funding
17. Signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, And Disclosure Act
18. Boosted fuel efficiency standards for cars
19. Improved school nutrition with the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act
20. Repealed the military"s "Don"t Ask, Don"t Tell" policy
21. Signed the Hate Crimes Prevention Act, Making it a federal crime to assault anyone based on sexual or gender identification
22. Helped negotiate the landmark Iran Nuclear Deal
23. He signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act to combat pay discrimination against women
24. Nominated Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court, Making her the first Hispanic ever to serve as a justice

https://www. Good. Is/articles/obamas-achievements-in-offic
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
@Dr. Franklin - Typical idiot who really doesn't have the foggiest idea as to what he is squawking about and MUST invent excuses to keep his tail feathers from shrinking at the first sign of a bloody zit in his cabbage batbrain. Oh and here's something you don't get. . . Right before the election there were two tests given to 15, 000 people from across this nation to various different people of all religions, You could be gay, Black, Asian, Whatever. . . Both tests were the same tests only they used different terminologies. On one test both Obama and Trump were listed. On the other neither was listed. Guess what happened? Go on take one lucky guess since you think you are such a genie-us and since you think you are so smort, Sorry smart? Yeah you guessed it, On the one where Obama and Trump were listed Trump won by 76%. On the other where neither was listed Obama won by 82%. Now you figure it out, Just by the name only, How many hated Obama as this is where racism and hatred begins and YOU are most certainly part of it. And if you can't figure it out, Then pack your bags as you belong in another country. But don't worry, Trump could very well, And rightly so, Be impeached. However that would be a worse scenario because then Mike Pence who is far far far worse would take the helm of burping in the big white barn and thus imposing his complete ineptitude.
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