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Prove that the god according to the bible loves and cares for/ about the ENTIRE human race

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Started: 11/27/2018 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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backwardseden

Pro

The rules are simple enough: Prove that the god according to the bible loves and cares for and or about the ENTIRE human race - not just part of it which means this so-called unproven god is a bigoted racist pig who loves to sandwich in people for his own private little affairs and that's according to the powder puff cookie dough bible. And since this god doesn't care nor love the ENTIRE human race, Then why create anyone to oppose him knowing all to well that uprisings and bloodshed will occur especially when it isn't necessary which is not love nor care that is if god is a true god in which he is not because nobody can prove that this god even exists? And why be evil and hate in the first place, In which is what this god truly is as he's admitted to having evil, Anger, Wrath, Vengeance, Rage, Fury, Jealousy of all things, Rather than bringing in peace, Harmony, Love, Care, Kindness etc in which this so-called god could have and should have started out with AND KEPT IT? Nah. This god of the bible obviously loves war, Bloodshed, Pain, Agony, Suffering - especially among millions of children as an example in which this so-called god of the bible creates each and every year to be raped, Beaten and tortured by daddy as he sticks his you know what inside of them while pumping away as he punches these children in the face, Sometimes for decades, Sometimes twice per week. Now what can children possibly learn from suffering? If you've answered "nothing", You've answered correctly. If this so-called god didn't love this crap, He would not create it. Simple. Yeah your christ had it super duper easy being crucified. So either way its a losing proposition for those that believe. But have at it. And another question that remains is why believe in this travesty god in which has done nothing good for the human race?

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GetYourFactsRight

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First off, I disagree with how the other side has described God. He makes it so he has no affiliation with us, When it is of course the opposite. What unconscious thing could create man from rocks cast through space. Our very existence is proof that there is a God and the very building blocks of life itself, Our DNA differs invariably from person to person. No structure or thing can create this liveliness, The essence of our world. A thinking, Working being must have created humans and animals alike, For what rock, What lake could give the DNA of life.

To counter the point made by the affirmative side, God gave us the gift of a conscious, An independent body, And that we make judgements and choices based on what we see fit. This where the afterlife comes in. God rewards the well behaving in this life by sending them to heaven while those who judge poorly go to hell. The fact of afterlife has been proven in scriptures as well as in an Earthly case, Where a man hurt his head and was on the verge of his demise, And saw the heavens above. This is proven by the fact that the part of the brain where you dream or think was incapable of doing anything due to his injury. This man could not dream, And saw angels, He was dead and yet lived. There are various cases where people claim to see an ultimate force, Some false but numbers too many to rinse out that possibility.

He also said that people get raped and fight each other. Giving people good and bad traits alike give them for aforementioned conscious and choices. He cleansed our the world once, With the great flood with Noah and his ark prevailing. Trivial fights are brought on by people whose ideas differ. All fights are fought with the possibility of death, And the possibility of life and/or success. Soldiers bear this in mind and God would not help end these wars, These people fighting knowing full well what can be the consequence. Why should he help end fighting when it is we who started it. We are one species on one planet and God never created these divisions.
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Pro

"Our very existence is proof that there is a God"" According to what? You? How would you know? I get it, I really do, You must be the only person in the entire history of the human race that has ---ever--- proved that god exists. I get it also that you must somehow think you are better than everyone else who has called upon this god of YOURS and he has not shown. So go right ahead and land this god of YOURS in my lap right now! Since you can"t and or will not, Would you like to recant your statement? Oh and btw, Which god? Why would YOU insist on one god? Why not hundreds, Thousands, Billions, Trillions, Quadrillions?
"Our DNA differs invariably from person to person. No structure or thing can create this liveliness, The essence of our world. " Now how would you know? Thus far there"s only bee 3838 planets that have been discovered in this known universe. Scientists believe that every---single---star---has---a---couple---of---planets. So how would you know that there"s not DNA elsewhere and or life? That"s the real question. Is there"s life elsewhere in this universe? Damn right there is. "A thinking, Working being must have created humans and animals alike, " According to what? You? How would you know? What grade of sign language gestures for "which way to the potty" did yah develop that one?
Well we shall skip paragraph 2 entirely. Its a load of boozer monstrosity unproven innuendos dancing at the heels of your yodeling bathtub rings and as usual there"s not a single shred of proof that went into your painful rectal itch readings that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter at hand "Prove that the god according to the bible loves and cares for/ about the ENTIRE human race.
"He cleansed our the world once, With the great flood with Noah and his ark prevailing. " Oh wow what a **yawn** = 100% wrong. It never took place. Sorry. There"s 0% scientific evidence that it did. I get it. I really do. You believe in the Ken Ham disaster that exists in Kentucky.
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=24WbQkRx2_8&t=46s - How Archaeology Disproves Noah's Flood
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=BitwnxiPH34&t=50s - How Anthropology Disproves Noah's Flood
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=_KEfj3LLNSY&t=58s - How Dendrochronology Disproves Noah's Flood
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=vWZtbZGtiGA - How Meteorology Disproves Noah's Flood
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=DrDTaHjg2IQ&t=530s - How Mythology Disproves Noah"s Flood
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=5MeHmWapM4Y - How Geology Disproves Noah's Flood
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=VRXNJvWkkoI&t=1s - How Paleontology Disproves Noah's Flood
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=5svTzxVa-xQ&t=329s - The Math of the Great Flood
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=8IPGwAf0Ivw&t=156s - Noah's Ark Debunked
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=tyWcka7drWk - 39 Problems with the Noah's Ark Story (includes the great flood also)
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=_um69RqBpSw&t=330s - Noah's Ark is Plagiarized. Here's how we know "
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=qalTJzk4kO0&t=911s - Bible"s Buried Secrets 14:45
"Soldiers bear this in mind and God would not help end these wars, " You"re so right, According to your bible, YOUR god started them simply because people wanted wo worship other gods and develop their own cultures. Your god butchered and murdered in YOUR bible for absolutely no reason at all 2, 821, 364 which included babies, Children and pregnant mothers (abortions in which you as a christian must be perfectly fine with. Wow what a supermassive hypocritical contradiction. ) "These people fighting knowing full well what can be the consequence. " Really? Where does this state this in your bible? And yeah I get it also that I am going to hell simply because I am NOT going to worship your crappy christ. More power to me for never doing this. But alas if a person butchers, Murders, Chops up 6 five year old girls and then finds christ, He will have a place in your stupid little heaven. What a great way to run things under the thumb of your god. Pathetic.

Yeah your god in no possible way cares about and or loves everybody. Not---even---close. You freely admitted it with your ridiculous debate. Try harder.
GetYourFactsRight

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Debate Round No. 2
backwardseden

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GetYourFactsRight

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
backwardseden
before they are made. That is not free will.
4. Threatening people with death as 4 of the 10 commandments do is taking people's free will away. Thus you do not have free will under your god's guidance.

Oh whoopppss. . . In the previous post I didn't mention that there's "There is plenty to learn from suffering. " And naturally you completely failed to mention ANYTHING about it. Now why is that? But more importantly, I tacked on "what can children learn from suffering? If you've answered "nothing", You've answered correctly.

Let's not take one step at a time because you clearly don't know anything at all about your god and have lost everything, Everytime you even make the attempt at trying to have a debate/ conversation with me.

"do YOU believe in free will of man? " Already answered.
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
backwardseden
@GuitarSlinger - Well first as stated "because nobody can prove that this god even exists" So you would have to prove that to begin with. So now let's get to your ignorant points in which you have not read your bible and it clearly shows with the "duh" stamp marked on your forehead. Maybe one of these days you'll stop questioning me on pretty much the same things.
Genoicde. Duh what do you call the great flood that never happened?
War, Bloodshed, Pain, Agony, Suffering can all be grouped into one category. And genocide can also. Deuteronomy 13: 9-10 and 17: 2-5 is your god's set in stone law. Here's some samples also of it being put into effect. . . Exodus 12:29, Numbers 25: 4-9, Numbers 31: 17-18, Numbers 31: 31-40, Judges 19: 22-29, 2 Samuel 24:15, Etc etc etc (yeah that lost goes on and on and on and on and on and on. . . Do you know ANYTHING about YOUR god who murdered in your bible 2, 821, 364 which included babies, Children and pregnant women for absolutely no reason at all? Apparently not.
"You assert that God created pain and suffering, . . . " I already did in the opening RD. No need to repeat it. If you believe in YOUR god, You do not have free will. I and billions of others, We do not believe in free will, Therefore we do have free will. It doesn't take a pea of a yodeling grunge country opera brain to figure this one out. 3 things. 1 Show me or anyone in your bible where it states "I the lord thy god grants man free will". It doesn't, Not even close. So you have no free will. None.
2. Watch these 3 videos they prove you have no free will, None if you believe in your god.
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=hOaLlyRId4I - All Knowing god versus Free Will: The Greatest Religious Contradiction
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=lAqFbiBDb_c - Free Will With god
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=Z1BzP1wr234&t=5s%20How - god Favors Evil
3. Your god has no free will. Therefore man has no free will. Your god if omnipotent, Knows his future and thus knows his choices
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
@GuitarSlinger

Assuming your God this exists.
It is partly to blame for every wrong doing and right doing in the world.
It is not stretch to stay that It loves war, Bloodshed, Pain, Agony, Suffering since It allowed the crusades to go on and allowed many babies to die only for Jesus to be born. I don't think Backwardseden can prove God loves wrong doings but you cannot prove God loves right doings.

We do not have free will but assuming we did and God exists then there is a contradiction. Free will cannot exist with God.
Posted by GuitarSlinger 3 years ago
GuitarSlinger
@Backwardseden

You make several statements that you assert/assume to be a truth/fact, But yet you do not provide proof that they are indeed facts or truth. Some examples:

"This god of the bible obviously loves war, Bloodshed, Pain, Agony, Suffering " - prove this statement is a FACT.

There is plenty to learn from suffering.

You assert that God created pain and suffering, Etc. - Can you prove that God created pain and suffering. My assumption is you don't believe in Man's freewill do you?

Let's take this one step at a time. A simple question for you to answer-- do YOU believe in free will of man? Don't convolute the answer with a bunch of other mumbo-jumbo, Just answer the question. DO you or do you not believe in Free Will?
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Vote Placed by dsjpk5 2 years ago
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