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Reasons for accepting atheism and not the god according to the bible inwhich nobody can prove exists

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Started: 4/1/2018 Category: Religion
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backwardseden

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Reasons for accepting atheism and not the god according to the bible in which nobody can prove even exists...
First for all who don't know what "atheism" is. in which nearly 100% of the population on planet earth doesn't, it is simply by the very definition of the dictionary "1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God. 2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings." DO NOT TURN IT INTO ANYTHING ELSE.

Now here's why you should not accept god and instead atheism. And if you have the slightest doubt as to your belief in god(s), then you ARE an atheist.

* You will have free will. Within believing in god, you have no free will, none. These videos will prove it. But christians are absolutely famous for completely ignoring rock solid evidence.
http://www.youtube.com... - All Knowing god versus Free Will: The Greatest Religious Contradiction
http://www.youtube.com... - Free Will With god
http://www.youtube.com... - god Favors Evil
http://www.youtube.com... - god allows Free Will?
Also you show me anywhere in the bible where it says something to the effect of "I the lord thy god grants man free will" Its doesn"t say it anywhere. Also threatening people with death such as a couple of the 10 commandments, adultery, breaking the sabbath, that"s taking free will away. And if god is god, he knows exactly what you will be doing trillions of years before you will be doing it. You are a programmed robot. That"s not free will. You have no free will believing in god.
* You won"t have to worry god issuing a death warrant on you if you are gay which is 100% wrong and gives no reason why and is pure evil and hate LV 20:13
* You won"t have to worry about god issuing you a death warrant on you of you work on the sabbath which is a stupid law and is pure evil and hate EX 31:14, NU 15: 32-36
* You won"t have to worry about god issuing you a death warrant if you commit adultery which is a stupid law LV 20:10
* You won"t have to worry about god sending his henchmen to kill you simply because you believe in a different god or gods which is pure evil and hate DT 13: 9-10, DT 17 2-5, 2 CHR 15: 12-13,
* You won"t have to worry about being a slave unto god as is endorsed throughout the bible (OT was never taken away or revamped and yes jesus did it too but we are not concerned with a false prophet) EX 21 the entire chapter especially 20-21 which is truly sick and disgusting, LV 25:39, LV 25:42, LV 25: 44-46, DT 15: 12-15, DT 23: 14-16, MT 18:25,
* You won"t have to worry about god torturing, brutalizing, knowingly causing the suffering of yours or other children and babies LM4: 9-11, MT 10:37, MT 2:16, JG 21:10, 2 SAM 12:11-14 which is truly sick and disgusting, DT 2:34, NU 31: 17-18, LV 26: 21-22, 1 SAM 15:3, HS 13:16, 2 KS 15:16, EZ 9: 5-7, HS 9: 11-16, EX 12: 29-30, IS 13: 15-18, MT 2:16, (EX 21:17, LV 20:9, MK 7:10, MT 15:4, MT 10:21), JG 11: 30-33, PS 137: 8-9, 2 KS 6: 28-29, DT 21: 18-21, DT 32:25, DT 2: 32-34, DT 3: 3-6, JG 19: 24-29, EX 12:29, 2 HS 2: 23-24, LV 26:29, JM 11: 22-23, JM 19: 7-9, JM 51: 22-26, 2 KS 8: 9-15,LM 2: 20-22, RV 2: 18-23
* You won"t have to worry about god hating women in which he most certainly does to your wife, girlfriend, mother, grandmother, great grandmother or any woman you know LM 4 9-11 sick and disgusting, HS 13:16 sick and disgusting, JD 21:10, 2 SAM 12 11-14 sick and disgusting, DT 2:34, NU 31 17:18, LV 26 21:22, 1 SAM 15:3, HS 13:16 sick and disgusting, DT 2 32-34, 2 KS 8: 9-15, 2 KS 15:16 sick and disgusting, EZ 9: 5-7, HS 9: 11-16, 2 KS 6: 28-29 sick and disgusting, JD 19: 24-29, LM 2 20-22 sick and disgusting, 1 COR 14:34,1 TY 2:12
* You won"t have to be terrified if you are a woman as god loves rape NU 31: 17-18, 2 SAM 12: 11-18 sick and disgusting, JD 19:24-29, JD 21: 10-24, DT 20: 10-14, DT 22: 28-29, DT 21: 10-14, JD 5:30, EX 21 7-11, ZE 14: 1-2 proving that he is evil, pure evil and nothing but,
* You won"t have to be ridden with grief of your "christian" religion anymore if you think an abortion is the right thing to do as god commits abortions HS 13:16 sick and disgusting, 2 KS 8: 9-15 sick and disgusting, 2 HS 15:16 sick and disgusting, HS 9: 11-16, and perhaps the biggest acts of abortions were committed in the great flood according to this so-called god of the bible in the great flood (which never happened btw) so who knows how many pregnant mothers died there in which religious people solidly believe in (without proof)?
* You won"t have to go to war and perhaps die all in the supposed "good" name of god in which you cannot even prove even exists as this god has committed countless atrocities/ genocides for absolutely no reason... the great flood according to the bible (which never happened btw) so who knows what the body count was there? 3,000 EX 32:27-28, 14,700 NU 16:49, 24,002 NU 25: 1-11, 12,000 JOS 8: 1-25, 10,000 JG 1:4, 120,000 JG 8:7-10, 42,000 JG 12:3-6, 1,000 JD 15:14-15, 3,000 JD 16:27-30, 25,101 JD 16:27-30, 1 SAM 4 34,002, 1 SAM 6:19 50,070, 2 SAM 8 65,850, 1 KI 20: 28-29 100,000, 1 KI 20: 30 27,000, KI 19 35 -37 185,000, 2 CHR 13 17-18 500,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, 2 CHR 28:6 120,000, Esther 9:5-18 75,813 etc etc etc The body count in the bible that god killed is 2,821,364 when it should have been 0. After all if god is god he can do anything and especially not have the need, want and much needed desire for deliberate genocides proving him to be far worse than Stalin, Pol Pot, Hong Xiuquan, Mao, Hitler combined. After all this unproved god knowingly created them knowing especially what they would do.
* Sin. Sin is hypocritical and contradictory in your bible. Thus sin does not exist. Look to the good things in life not all this sinning crap that god puts upon your shoulders.
Does every man sin? Yes. There is no man who does not sin (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810) No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God. Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God.. (I John 5:1). We should be called children of God; and so we are (I John 3: 1). He who loves is born of God (I John 4:7). No one born of God commits sin; for Gods nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God (I John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (I John 1:8)

But the biggest sin there could possibly be - ever - of all time..................... since I will not believe in god, I am going to be denied a place in heaven by that simple little gesture. Well goodie for me, all the more reason for me to - never - believe in the monstrosity that is YOUR god, not mine.

What value do you place on sin, or if its not your view, it"s the bible"s. Let"s look at some examples... On a 1 to 10 scale...
*Homosexuality which has never done you any harm to you must = a 10
*no other gods before me must also = a 10
*shall not make for yourself a graven image must also = a 10
*take the name of the lord your god in vain must also = a 10
*remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy must also = a 10
*god ensues slavery and the beating of slaves so that must = a 10
*god loves raped women so that must = a 10
*god can justify his many genocides which would mean the killing of innocent babies, children and pregnant mothers which is extremely, excessively, unreasonably, and is foolishly contradictory and hypocritical = a 10
*god knowingly hates children = a 10

Raping, beating and torturing a child must = a 1 because children do not have a voice in the bible, to SCREAM. They get to say nothing. Their mouths are glued shut.
The abuser who is raping, beating and torturing a child must also = a 1 because there's no relevance into doing harm to a child in the bible.
In no way does god believe harmony, love, care for each other because otherwise peace would have already been achieved = a 1

If you do not see the horrific details behind YOUR religion, god and bible, and its fatalistic flaws and how valueless they are, then you are completely gone into another non existent universe.

We'll get into other things in other rounds such as why god would never use text as a source of communication, the worst form of communication possible, super massive hypocritical contradictions in the bible thus proving the bible to be unreadable, faith, heaven and hell, god is an idiot, god is imperfect etc.

Rules: counteract what has been posted in RD1 thus far and prove that god is worthy of worship, and atheism is NOT a correct ideal.

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Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
backwardseden
@Knowledgeable - Not so knowledgeable with a fetus mind. Atheism is not a religion. But alas you know NOTHING about atheism or anything for that matter such as what 2 + 2 =
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
backwardseden
@2far4u2CharlesDarwin - I don't know everything. Not by any means. But one thing that is for absolute and positive 100% sure is that I am A LOT smarter, more intelligent and more edumacated than your teeny tiny jellybean brain dead ooey gooey rich and phooey tinsel mind ever will be. I will also know A LOT more about YOUR god, jesus (in which case you cannot even prove either of them even exists so you have no case to bletch out any kind of minced mutton moron mechanical mind lung rot overdose on soap opera digression that you watch with great penis envy), bible and religion than you ---ever--- will.
Posted by canis 3 years ago
canis
A theist is a person standing in a room full of light and looking for a pink cat with "9" legs that isn"t there and shouting, "I"ve found it!".... looking is fine and no problem at all..
Posted by Darth_Unicorns 3 years ago
Darth_Unicorns
Atheists don"t believe in a god. That is not the same as saying their isn"t a god. Atheists don"t make ny claims (There is no God for example).

Knowledgeable, what would be a natural religion and also a religon is believing in a god, which atheists don"t.
Posted by canis 3 years ago
canis
well "accepting" would probably be the wrong word. Atheism is just not looking for pink cats with 9 legs..
Posted by canis 3 years ago
canis
"Reasons for accepting atheism"..
A theist is a person standing in a room full of light and looking for a pink cat with "9" legs that isn"t there and shouting, "I"ve found it!"....
The only thing we actually know is that god is a dream.. We know absolutly nothing else then that..
Posted by 2far4u2CharlesDarwin 3 years ago
2far4u2CharlesDarwin
Intelligence is to speak with jargon that only an educated idiot could ever believe that they could understand the ins and out's of a ducks bum and wisdom is to break down all of that bias jargon so even a simpleton could understand.

For the fault is not with the receiver of the massage the fault lies with the one giving the message.
This is a break down in comunication that educated idiots can not come to terms with.

Ignorance feeds arrogance and arrogance feeds ignorance. While an eye for an eye leaves us all blind.

To become humane is to be aware of the strengths and weakness within ourselves that reflect the past, present and future of the good and bad within us all because empathy is knowing what it's like in someone else's shoes by personal experience and sympathy is not really knowing but caring anyway.

Repetitious cognitive behavior is past tense, that over time becomes habitual which is present tense. Free will is future tense. The more you comprehend the more you progress throughout the barriers in communication within your own mind and with everyone else, also the more freewill you will have to adapt.

Wisdom is to have the ability to have a structured conversation with the village idiot and accepting that tomorrow it's my turn to be the village idiot. Explaining complexities in the simplest manner is just like nuts and bolts. The hardest part is knowing how to put it all back together.

"Mark Twain" the best weapon people have is laughter.
"2far4u2" Wisdom is to have the ability to have a structured conversation with the village idiot and accepting that tomorrow it's my turn to be the village idiot. Explaining complexities in the simplest manner is just like nuts and bolts. The hardest part is knowing how to put it all back together.

But what would I know at 52 supposedly going into 16 know but here some good solid advice watch this many times over and learn how to learn you really will.
Posted by Knowledgeable 3 years ago
Knowledgeable
Atheism, another man-made religion. What else is new?
Posted by 2far4u2CharlesDarwin 3 years ago
2far4u2CharlesDarwin
backwardseden the 56 years old going onto 18 that thinks it know every thing allready.
When are you going to at least try to prove that there is a fully functioning well adjusted mature aged brain within your head?
Posted by canis 3 years ago
canis
A theist is a person standing in a room full of light and looking for a pink cat with "9" legs that isn"t there and shouting, "I"ve found it!"....
The only thing we actually know is that god is a dream.. We know absolutly nothing else then that..
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