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LuciferWept
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sunny108
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Religious Schools Should Be Banned

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Started: 7/4/2017 Category: Society
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LuciferWept

Pro

For Whatever Reason, this debate dropped from the Debates.

I am making the argument that Religious Schools Should be Banned. By this I mean that all religious institutions that provide an alternative for public schooling should be illegal. This does not apply to countries where public schooling is not a thing. This is also not an attack on private schools altogether, only on religious schools.

Rounds of Debate

1) Present Your Position and Make Points (DO NOT CONTRADICT HERE)
2) Primary Argument (May us some or all of points presented in Round 1)
3) Elaborate on Arguments and Contradict Opponent
4) Final Arguments (Reply to Conradictions Here)

Rules

1) Ad hom is fun, so it's not banned, but first, realize if you choose to employ it, it will be returned and I expect the same. Second, be certain that it is not the crux of your argument.

2) Do not bring up Public Schools or Secular Private Schools unless you can prove how Religious schools are better/worse.

3) I prefer sources in the argument itself. However, if you are close to running out of your 10,000 characters, you may post sources in comments provided you make denote so in your argument.

4) Since Con is posting Round 1 after I do, DO NOT start trying to contradict my argument there. Do so in Round 3.

5) Arguments themselves cannot be posted in comments. Only sources under circumstances listed above.

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Religious Schools, which often present themselves as somehow superior to alternatives, are in fact the worse possible choice for a place where children can receive an education. There are six reasons, which are listed below.

1 At least an entire period of class is wasted discussing sollipsisms. This is time that could be better spent studying important subjects instead of religion. Religion should be kept to churches and parents, not wasting a child's time in school.

2 Religion tends to permeate to other subjects. This is not meant to be strawman, because I am sure that many Christian schools present the theory of evolution, but still the curriculum is designed not to contradict the religious dogma, even when that dogma is wrong.

3 Money Talks. At religious schools, those families with ability to donate or otherwise provide services to the school can gain special favor with the school, thus placing their child in a better position. I am not implying that they are buying grades, but students who do average work can be recommended for higher classes in the next grade and conduct infractions can be overlooked.

4 The Religion gives the school something to fall back on when they are found wanting in academic rigor. Instead of a superior education being the focus, a more devout student is what is used to promote the school.

5 Lower quality education. Because most religious schools are already hurting for money, they are unable to pay teachers and other employees the wages possible are public or secular private schools. This means they will be unable to attract superior educators, instead hiring the mediocre at best.

6 It is said it takes a village to raise a child. Often religious schools help overprotective parents to shelter a child, and keep them from points of view which are socially acceptable. The State can have no control over what exactly is taught, so all sorts of strange ideas can be taught without any interference from the general population. For example, Christian schools tend to instill more homophobic (I hate that word) views in students just as Madrassas tend to teach misogynistic ideologies to kids. This produces both dogmatic thinkers who are unable to cope with different kinds of people and people who are (without good reason) convinced of their moral superiority.
sunny108

Con

Faith schools in England are academically "little or no better than any other schools", and pushing for their expansion is unlikely to boost social mobility, an education think tank has warned.

Recent government reports have hailed faith schools as some of the best performing and most desirable schools in the country. But new analysis published by the Education Policy Institute (EPI) suggests this may be biased, since faith schools take on a lower proportion of the poorest and most disadvantaged pupils (12.1 per cent at Key stage 2 compared to 18 per cent in non-faith schools).

Religious segregation in faith schools 'dreadful' says catholic chief Catholic education officials have disregarded the report, however, arguing that the research is based on incorrect figures and “bears no resemblance” to their schools.

The EPI report, entitled Faith Schools, Pupil Performance and Social Selection, follows new government proposals to allow new faith schools to recruit more than half of their pupils on religious grounds – lifting the current cap of 50 per cent.

Faith schools in England are academically "little or no better than any other schools", and pushing for their expansion is unlikely to boost social mobility, an education think tank has warned.

Recent government reports have hailed faith schools as some of the best performing and most desirable schools in the country.

But new analysis published by the Education Policy Institute (EPI) suggests this may be biased, since faith schools take on a lower proportion of the poorest and most disadvantaged pupils (12.1 per cent at Key stage 2 compared to 18 per cent in non-faith schools).

Catholic education officials have disregarded the report, however, arguing that the research is based on incorrect figures and “bears no resemblance” to their schools.

The EPI report, entitled Faith Schools, Pupil Performance and Social Selection, follows new government proposals to allow new faith schools to recruit more than half of their pupils on religious grounds – lifting the current cap of 50 per cent.

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