The Instigator
MaddeR
Pro (for)
The Contender
lIlIlIllIIIIllIlI
Con (against)

Should Gay Marriage be Legal? (Yes, it is already legal, but should it be or should it be illegal?"

Do you like this debate?NoYes+1
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Debate Round Forfeited
MaddeR has forfeited round #2.
Our system has not yet updated this debate. Please check back in a few minutes for more options.
Time Remaining
00days00hours00minutes00seconds
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/21/2018 Category: Society
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
Viewed: 811 times Debate No: 111156
Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (5)
Votes (0)

 

MaddeR

Pro

I want you to imagine the perfect someone, whether you have found them or not, they would make you happy right? Hair, what shade is it, how does it part? Eyes, what color are they, how do they make you feel? How about character, humorous, caring, independent or even emotionally strong? Now, unfortunately, that perfect someone, is swiped from you! Not in a sense that someone else loves them, but you can"t be with them. It"s forbidden, similar to a fairytale but it"s heartbreaking, and shakes your world until it"s upside down. Do you think this can happen in the world around us? Of course.

This happens to people who love differently, things like large age gaps, different races, and sexual orientation are frowned upon and sometimes discriminated against. In today"s world, all still happen but those who receive the most grief would be those whose sexual orientation is outside the social norms. Specifically referring to those within the gay and lesbian community who are criticized for wanting to have their marriage recognized. Marriage has changed drastically throughout time, but now people think of it as a representation of love and compassion, joining two souls for eternity. Gay marriage also has many benefits to society and our country, so I don't think there is any real reason to ban gay marriage. Marriage is a right that gays should be allowed and should be able to do so without grief or shame.
lIlIlIllIIIIllIlI

Con

Pro proposes, "I want you to imagine the perfect someone, whether you have found them or not, they would make you happy right? Hair, what shade is it, how does it part? Eyes, what color are they, how do they make you feel? How about character, humorous, caring, independent or even emotionally strong? Now, unfortunately, that perfect someone, is swiped from you! Not in a sense that someone else loves them, but you can"t be with them. It"s forbidden, similar to a fairytale but it"s heartbreaking, and shakes your world until it"s upside down. Do you think this can happen in the world around us? Of course."
The following is an appeal to equality. More on that here: https://www.logicallyfallacious.com... . Essentially, your assertion presumes what is equal and what isn"t.
Pro proposes, "Marriage has changed drastically throughout time, but now people think of it as a representation of love and compassion, joining two souls for eternity."
Perhaps, but this is discounting the nearly 4 million Muslims and 280 million Christians in the United States. Regarding Christianity and Islam, they believe in traditional marriage, the instituted wedding of man and woman to God. Keep in mind that people that identify as queer make up for only 3% of the United States. This heils in comparison to the demographic of Christians and Muslims who make up for 87 percent of the U.S. Regardless of what marriage may be recognized in today, ignoring the masses of people supporting traditional marriage would be audacious.
Pro proposes, "Gay marriage also has many benefits to society and our country, so I don't think there is any real reason to ban gay marriage."
Provide these supposed "benefits to society and our country". However, if referring to the economic benefits of marrying, there are benefits to marriage and not specifically Gay marriage.
Pro proposes. "Marriage is a right that gays should be allowed
The mistake is identifying marriage as a right.
In accordance to a recent ruling by the Supreme Court, marriage is defined as the, ""union of a man and a woman [that] always has promised nobility and dignity to all persons". While the Court recognizes that there are more legal benefits granted to marital unions, they decreed that the "States are in general free to vary the benefits they confer on all married couples". These prosperities are ancillary to the status of marriage and are not isolated to marriage as a sole entity.
Civil rights are fundamental and a violation of civil rights outside of lawful process is a crime under U.S. federal law, and in certain conditions is a felony offense. See Title 18 United States Code Sections 241 and 242. (18 USC 241 and 18 USC 242). However, this does not prevent the state from denying the right of marriage from pedophiles, zoophiles or incestuous people from marrying. Hence, one would conclude that marriage is not a civil right but a privilege.
Pro proposes, " and should be able to do so without grief or shame."
The idea of shame and grief cannot be deemed by any individual. Rather, the relativity of morality deems no one is worth to make decisions for everyone. Looking to past societies, there are clear laws that we see as cannibalistic or even cruel. Hence, societal morals are not necessarily morals that should be urged.
[1] http://www.dictionary.com...
[2] http://www.jurist.org...
[3] http://bigthink.com...
Debate Round No. 1
This round has not been posted yet.
This round has not been posted yet.
Debate Round No. 2
This round has not been posted yet.
This round has not been posted yet.
Debate Round No. 3
This round has not been posted yet.
This round has not been posted yet.
Debate Round No. 4
This round has not been posted yet.
This round has not been posted yet.
Debate Round No. 5
5 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 5 records.
Posted by lIlIlIllIIIIllIlI 3 years ago
lIlIlIllIIIIllIlI
@madder it is also an appeal to emotion.
Posted by lIlIlIllIIIIllIlI 3 years ago
lIlIlIllIIIIllIlI
Proposition should be "Is marriage a right?"
Posted by Truth-Over-Emotion 3 years ago
Truth-Over-Emotion
Most people agree with this. I don't think you'll find someone who will take this on.
Posted by Bennett91 3 years ago
Bennett91
Gay marriage is already legal in most western countries. So really the premise should be "Should gay marriage be ILLEGAL?" But w/e it's going to be the same debate either way.
Posted by TPPDJT 3 years ago
TPPDJT
Good luck against the likely Christian rightist you go against.
This debate has 6 more rounds before the voting begins. If you want to receive email updates for this debate, click the Add to My Favorites link at the top of the page.

By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use.