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Should Hillary Clinton win?

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Started: 9/19/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
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So...Hillary and Donald is one of the many question many politics are arguing about. The question I'm asking myself is, why Trump? Like really. He is a rich man with surgically put on hair who has absolutely no political experience whatsoever, and is frankly only running for president, for a boost in his business and for more money which he really doesn't need more of. Another disappointment I have found with Trump, is that he has had at least 3 wives who have all been at least 20 years younger than him.

Don't even get me started with the wall. Just think about it. A Great Wall of America with TRUMP written in gold all over it. I mean am I wrong? No, I'm not.


Hillary may actually be the biggest liar the U.S. ploitical landscape has ever seen.

Hillary's conference was fake-

(Youtube video)


Hillary was a part of what is said to be the biggest, dirtiest scandal in American history. The older generation remembers. The problem is...the next generation coming up does not. Hillary is counting on it.

It involves the transfer of America’s most sensitive technology, including but not limited to nuclear missile and satellite technology, apparently in exchange for millions of dollars in contributions to the 1996 Clinton-Gore re-election effort and the Democratic National Committee.

The Chinagate scandal of 1996 ended up in an award of 900,000 in attorney’s fees and costs to Judicial Watch ten years later.

The scandal was an apparent scheme by the Clinton administration to sell seats on taxpayer-funded trade missions in exchange for campaign contributions to the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign.

Judicial Watch began an investigation and Clinton administration officials deliberately concealed and destroyed records regarding the trade mission and testimony was falsified.

Nolanda Hill, a business partner and confidante of the Clinton then-Commerce Secretary Ron Brown testified in a court hearing during the litigation that the Clinton White House told Brown to “delay the Judicial Watch case by withholding the production of documents prior to the 1996 elections and to devise a way not to comply with the court’s orders.”

She also testified that Brown, who died in a plane crash during a trade mission to Bosnia, told her that Hillary conceived of the scheme to sell trade mission seats. Brown complained of being “Hillary’s blankety-blank tour guide.”

The case was so serious and so damaging that the Commerce Department asked for a judgment against itself to avoid any further revelations. The court refused and insisted the Commerce Department conduct a new search for trade mission records and authorized discovery into the illegal concealment and destruction of government records.

Congressional investigations, FEC investigations, a criminal inquiry by the Justice Department and the FBI followed. The DOC changed its trade mission policy which abandoned all political contributions affecting mission seats.

Finally, in 2006, without any fanfare, an appellate court upheld an award of 900,000 to Judicial Watch.

While there was a lot of circumstantial evidence, there was never a smoking gun.

Clinton friend Yah Lin “Charlie” Trie pleaded guilty to charges of violating campaign finance rules in exchange for having pending indictments dropped against him in Washington and Arkansas.

According to news reports in 1997, Democratic donor Johnny Chung received a $150,000 transfer from the Bank of China three days before he handed then First Lady Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff a $50,000 check.

Then-Vice President Al Gore received political donations from Buddhist nuns who had taken a vow of poverty.

President Clinton admitted in 1997 that he invited major campaign donors to spend the night in the White House. The Clintons hosted 404 overnight guests.


The Clinton Foundation has over $2 billion in it. Her donors are primarily leaders of nations congenitally hostile to America. When America pays you a few hundred thousand dollars and foreign governments pay you work for foreign powers and not the American people.

Hillary Clinton gets paid as much as $600,000 for speeches to big banks like Goldman Sachs. In these "secret and confidential" speeches, recording devices including cell phones are confiscated before you are allowed in. The United States doesn't pay her $600,000 as her annual salary for an entire year. So guess who else she works for.

Hillary Clinton's net worth is unimaginable, strange for someone who is paid a basic salary for her job as Secretary of State.

According to herself she is "rich".


Under the current administration, Hillary's administration, 100,000,000+ Americans are out of work, the national debt is nearing $20 trillion, accumulating more debt than all 43 prior administrations combined, Veterans and cops are treated like second class citizens, and a black vs cop race war was baited into fruition despite more whites being killed annualy by cops than blacks and it isn't close. This crap has to stop and right now.

Here is why Donald Trump needs to be our President-


Debate Round No. 1


Good round. To be honest, yes, I do realize that Hillary is not perfect, honestly no matter what this elections sucks because of our political options. And yes, I do realize that Hillary has lied, but so has Trump. Hillary has cheated on her husband but in retrospect, when you look at the average political sense, Hillary wins. Trump is a spoiled brat. Proof: got a small loan of a million dollars. And he's actually so beyond cheap that he will make Mexico pay for the wall, with Mexico being the 14 poorest country in the world.

Not only that but trump, has no political experience, but Hillary does, and the evidence is simple, Bill Clinton, who was a great president. His accomplishments included:
Earned Income Tax Credit - Aimed at just above poverty level workers to induce them towards work instead of welfare.

Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act - Reduced taxes for 90% of small businesses, reduced taxes for lowest income families, increased taxes on top 1.5%. Required a balanced budget through spending cuts. Result - Balanced Federal budget and surplus reducing federal deficit.

Children's Health Insurance Program - Covered 6 million more children with health insurance.

Set up first White House website, pushed all government branches into the "information age".

Family Leave Act - Required large employers to allow employees to take unpaid leave for medical and family emergencies.

Brady Bill - Added waiting period for handgun purchases for background check.

Taxpayer Relief Act - Reduced several federal taxes. The top capital gains rate fell from 28% to 20%. The 15% bracket was lowered to 10%. Exempted from taxation profits on the sale of a personal residence of up to $500,000 for married couples filing jointly and $250,000 for singles.

One of Clinton"s greatest achievements is the Global Health Initiative (GHI), introduced in 2010. Designed to put a focus on maternal an infant health, the GHI has implemented strategy to improve medical facilities, reduce the spread of HIV, and lower infant and maternal mortality rates.

Beyond individual achievements, Clinton has made it her life"s mission to ensure the world knows one simple thing: that "human rights are women"s rights and women"s rights are human rights." In every position she has held, the former First Lady has fought to bring women closer to equality. Bringing issues like women"s health, equal pay, and domestic violence to the forefront, she has never stopped making cracks in the glass ceiling.


Top Clinton Foundation donor who was denied entry into the U.S. fires back with a lawsuit


-A Nigerian-Lebanese billionaire donor to the Clinton Foundation sued seven federal agencies Thursday over being denied entry to the U.S., saying his reputation was damaged by the disclosure to the Los Angeles Times of reports alleging he may have"facilitated fundraising for Hezbollah.

Gilbert Chagoury ""a friend of Bill Clinton, an ambassador to the Vatican and owner of a hilltop mansion in Beverly Hills ""said he wanted"an opportunity to correct what he said was false information. He said it"damaged his reputation"and prompted a bank"in California to close his accounts.

Last month, The Times reported that the State Department denied a visa to"Chagoury, a British citizen,"on terrorism-related grounds, a broad category that can apply to anyone suspected of providing any kind of support to an extremist group.

According to government documents, the decision was based at least in part on unconfirmed reports alleging that Chagoury was assisting a Lebanese politician in funneling money to Hezbollah, the Shiite Muslim group designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S.

Chagoury"s suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Washington,"names agencies with access to classified information in databases the government uses to track known or suspected terrorists:"the FBI, the Justice Department, the National Counterterrorism Center, the State Department, CIA, Homeland Security and Customs and Border Protection. He does not name The Times in the lawsuit.

Point? She's getting large sums of money from foreign oligarchs.


A snippet from Obama's burst of rage telling African Americans it is an insult if they do not vote Hillary-


Reflections on Obama's burst of anger-


In this clip Obama tells us just how unfit Hillary is to be President-


In this clip Obama tells us that when Bush added $4 trillion to the national debt it was "irresponsible" and "unpatriotic". He then added $10 trillion.

Why does it matter? She says she's going to continue his policies, which have failed.

This administration attacked Libya with a massive show of force and was unprovoked into doing so. Gadhaffi was murdered in the street and there is video of the slaying on youtube. I choose not to provide it because it is disturbing. The nation is now in? Chaos.

This administration pulled out of Iraq before it was safe to do so and against the advice of military higher ups. The area fell into? Chaos. And ISIS manifested from the bowels of hell.

This administration ousted Mubarak in Egypt, then put a terrorist organization in charge, the military retook power, and Egypt officially declared Obama and Hillary conspirators with terrorist cells.

Under this administration the economy plummited, and the national debt is at $20 trillion. He spent more than all 43 previous Presidents combined.

And this administration, who claims to be about peace, has dropped more bombs than Bush II, Clinton, Bush I, and Reagan all combined.

Because of this administration's call to action for Europe to take in as many refugess and asylum seekers as possible, Europe fell into a clash of cultures and a "migrant crisis". In Cologne, Germany 2,000 women were sexually assaulted and raped by these migrants in one single night. In other news, ISIS is now terrorizing Europe on a constant basis. And...the crisis was caused by this administrstion ignoring Syria's genocide for 4 years and not until 500,000 people had been killed. This administration is a farse, and Hillary has supported it and even given many of it's military commands which manifested into a plethera of Hillary saying "I made a mistake".


Here is footage of Trae Gowdy speaking with the FBI in regards to Hillary's email scandal. Everything she said in public, she said the opposite yo the FBI when under oath. So she doesn't tell the truth, well...ever. Never.


The madness must stop here, today, right now. America is like a battered boxer. It's time to ring that bell.


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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by ILikePie5 2 years ago
Created debate, please accept @Indestructible7204
Posted by ILikePie5 2 years ago
With Pro @brontoraptor?
Posted by brontoraptor 2 years ago

Start one up.
Posted by brontoraptor 2 years ago
Trump vs the Saudi Queen was from this debate, both by me. I use all of my debates as threads.
Posted by ILikePie5 2 years ago
No offense Pro, but I see a lot of flaws in your argument. I would love to debate you over this topic if you want and possibly change your mind about Mr. Trump.
Posted by Indestructible7204 2 years ago
Hey opponent. Turns out you might have plagiarized from a different dabate: Trump vs. The Saudi Queen...????
Posted by brontoraptor 2 years ago
Posted by ILikePie5 2 years ago
I can understand people not supporting Trump, but what I don't understand is why you would support Hillary. She is a disgrace to Americans being corrupt and totally bought off, not to mention a criminal.
Here's a short list of what Hillary has done:

-Hillary Clinton put national security at risk whether you like it or not.
-Hillary Clinton wants to bring in 550% more refugees even though ISIS and senior officials have said that operatives will infiltrate.
-Hillary Clinton accepts money from nations that are anti-LGBT and anti-Women. Hillary Clinton is owned by lobbyists and donors.
-The State Department under Hillary Clinton rejected 600 individual requests for security in Benghazi.
-Hillary Clinton lied to the families of the fallen soldiers in Benghazi and called them liars.
-Hillary Clinton is laying a siege upon the 2nd Amendment. Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on the middle class.
-Hillary Clinton gave Russia Uranium. Bill Clinton along with Hillary signed NAFTA and WTO which led to the massacre of jobs.
-Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War and later withdrew the troops which led to the formation of ISIS.
-Hillary Clinton called for the overthrow of Ghaddafi which led to the destablization of Libya.
-Hillary Clinton brought Iran to the negotiating table which led to the Iran Deal which is a disaster.
-Hillary Clinton knowingly defended a child rapist
-Hillary Clinton used Pay to Play during term as SoS
-Hillary Clinton supports the BLM organization that chants "Death to Cops"
-Who was caught lying about her crowd sizes? Hillary Clinton

But to her supporters......What difference does it make?
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