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blvsian
Con (against)
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Mous3_doee
Pro (for)

Should affirmative action be abolished?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/30/2018 Category: Education
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
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blvsian

Con

1st round is acceptance
Mous3_doee

Pro

CONTENTION 1: REVERSE DISCRIMINATION
Many opponents of affirmative action feel that this kind of policy is morally unjust and promotes reverse discrimination. It does not only give the majority group an unfair treatment in the field of higher education and employment, but it also does punish them for crimes that they haven"t done. In law school admissions, white students who at a median LSAT score and grades had a 10% chance of being admitted. This is comparable to a 70% admission rate for black students and a 33% admission rate for Hispanic students.One of the reasons for implementing affirmative action programs is to make up for past wrongs. But the past is past, and those people who have racist ancestors must not take responsibility of what happened hundreds of years ago. Just because they have racist ancestors doesn"t mean that they will do the same and they liked what happened. After all, they weren"t there, so that wasn"t their fault. And let"s not forget that not all whites were unfriendly toward blacks earlier in history. As a matter of fact, some of them even experienced suffering comparable to that of blacks. Isn"t it unfair to give them all the burden of past wrongs?The issue at hand is this: is it moral to discriminate against a group of people when they themselves were the ones discriminating against others in the past.

CONTENTION 2: UNDESERVING OF SUCCESS
However, since its policy works by giving "special" treatment for minorities, it"s sending an impression that people from the target group only achieve success because of affirmative action. That even though they are talented and truly achieved their positions though hard work and intelligence, their achievements are still demeaned by the public and they are perceived as someone who only got to the top because of preferential treatment. And worse, this sometimes makes them even question their own competence, leaving a lasting and damaging effect on the emotional and mental well-being of the students. How can you feel truly fulfilled when a lingering doubt about your achievement plagues you?
Debate Round No. 1
blvsian

Con

I will be negating the resolution,

My case:

Firstly: AA is needed to provide give POCs a chance in education and improve diversity.

As it is already known, POCs face discrimination on an almost daily basis as they are judged and ridiculed by their white counterparts. Many people who are against AA claim that this is essentially "reverse" discrimination, who this is certainly not ture. With AA action is place, white students are still more likely to be selected compared to their black or hispanic counterparts. One example is proven when Abigail Fisher applied to UT was denied to affirmative action. She is the child of UT alumni, and hoped her legacy status would compensate for the fact that she did not graduate in the top 10 percent of her class, and her GPA (3.59) and test scores (SAT: 1180 out of 1600) were not high enough to qualify her for automatic admission. Nonetheless, these numbers were higher than of 47 students who were admitted in part based on their personal achievements. Abigail Fisher"s case, only five of the 47 students admitted with lower grades and test scores than Abigail"s were minority, while 42 were white. Never mind that 168 black and Latino students with grades as good as or better than Fisher"s were also denied entry into the university that year. This shows that even with AA in place, only a few POCs are still being enrolled. This is due impart to the fact that white people still have more privilege whether only greatly or slightly more than POCs simply due to skin color, leading to my second point.

Secondly: White people already live a more privileged life.

A majority of white people have a far greater privilege than POCs, whether it is acknowledged or not. Many POCs, especially black people, grow up in many urban and underdeveloped areas where they do not have the same educational or professional opportunities. They are not provided the same educational funding, resources, or support due to the fact they are ignored more often than others. Thus meaning that they may not achieve the best teaching and may not even achieve the same average of test scores as whites do, which unfortunately is determined for college placement. Myriad studies concluded that standardized test scores are a poor predictor of success in college and in life. More than 80 percent of the variance in college success is attributable to factors other than test scores. Over and over across our country, we find leaders of business, nonprofits, or policy with checkered academic transcripts. Laszlo Bock, senior vice president of human relations and operations at Google, told the New York Times that company officials found that GPAs and test scores are "worthless" as predictors of career performance at his company, a company widely admired for its innovative excellence. Bock notes that "learning ability" is the number one criterion for hiring " the capacity to find, weight, and analyze diffuse information, put the pieces together, and figure out what it means for solving real problems and developing something new.

Both or my opponents points can be negated simply through mine.
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Posted by canis 2 years ago
canis
Any action should be abolished...Any actions that should not be abolished ?..Well.. it is simple...Its about life..
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