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Okaydoka
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TouchtheSky
Con (against)

Should all severely mentally ill people be killed

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/18/2018 Category: Economics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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Okaydoka

Pro

round 1 is acceptance
TouchtheSky

Con

I accept! It's been a busy couple of days, but I'll try to respond to your arguments as quickly as possible.
Debate Round No. 1
Okaydoka

Pro

I think that the severely mentally ill should be killed they are a threat to society by hurting others. They should be killed humanely to put them out of their misery and not be a threat to society.
TouchtheSky

Con

Thank you for responding, I'm excited to talk this over with you. Just so you know, I've recently taken part in a debate on a similar topic, so if it seems relevant, I may copy and paste certain paragraphs onto here. These are all arguments that I wrote- I'm not copying anyone else's arguments.

You presented two main points: that mentally ill people are a threat to society and hurt others, and that killing them will put them out of their misery. I'm going to go over each of these points individually and discuss why both of them fail to stand under scrutiny.

1. MENTALLY ILL ARE A THREAT
It's true that people with mental disabilities will be more mentally unstable, and for a few people, these will lead to violence. But only about 3-5% of gun violence can be tied to mental disorders. [1] Most people with mental disorders are rarely violent, and we can't judge everyone by the small percentage of people that are. To put everyone in jail simply because of this small percentage would be inhuman and cruel. Much of the American judicial system is based on the belief that, as William Blackstone said, "It is far better than ten guilty people go free than one innocent man is convicted." [2]

I do understand, however, that mentally unstable people will be more prone to violence, and I don't deny that fact. When people's minds aren't fully functional in the way that ours are, they can do things that someone in their right mind wouldn't do, including violence. However, I do not believe that killing them should ever be an answer to that.

There are so many beautiful people in the world with unique personalities and a beautiful way of seeing the world that also have a mental illness. My uncle is one of them, and he wouldn't hurt a fly. Mental illness CAN be treated. It can never be completely cured, but there are ways to prevent it from affecting a person and grounding them further in real life. [3] Putting mentally ill people in prison would be to deprive them of a future. It would show them that they are invaluable and worthless just because of their disability. But they are not. [4] They are still people, and they still have emotions and desires and plans for a future, just like any of us. To deprive them of that simply because of something that they were born with is absurd. [5]

2. MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE MUST BE PUT OUT OF THEIR MISERY
You are right that many mentally ill people will have a hard time coping with their misery, and will sink into depression [6]. However, I am wholly unconvinced that death should ever be an answer to this. Mentally ill people can find happiness and hope, and putting an end to their supposed "pain" will only cause more grief among family members, and deprive them of any future and life. Many mentally ill people have had the chance to recover in amazing ways and find a happiness that should never be taken away from them [7] [8] [9].

And for the mentally ill who are depressed and suicidal, this does not mean that we should encourage this behavior. Mentally ill people deserve respect and love, just like everyone else. To kill them would be curel and inhuman. Their voices must be heard, and we must show that we understand, and that we will be by their side as they fight back against the darkness.

[1] http://www.amhca.org...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org...
[3] http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net...
[4] https://lifehacker.com...
[5] https://www.usatoday.com...
[6] https://counselorssoapbox.com...
[7] https://www.nami.org...
[8]http://www.massmed.org...
[9] http://mentalhealth.com...
Debate Round No. 2
Okaydoka

Pro

your argument changed my opinion of mentally ill people lets have a bs debate jneeklkflfjbhvsewe3qdev90efrhgd839i2owfukbd893ifewofluhgidsrokeljfkbd9u3wo;ihbi;t4rwoejihg;7y8590[e2ies78raikdwdfbx;0iO[QOVIHBR'W4O23LPKBGUOH'EI43LQ;WNGD
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TouchtheSky

Con

Wow, I'm so glad to hear that! It's a big decision. If you want to talk about this, please send me a private message. I would love to discuss this with you.
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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by judaism 3 years ago
judaism
I'm glad he changed his mind.
Posted by judaism 3 years ago
judaism
Okaydoka is a jerk. Hitler felt the shame, and look at all the evil he's done. To kill the mentally handicap is a statement of abomination.
Posted by 32doni32nido32 3 years ago
32doni32nido32
@TouchtheSky
I will be fairly active on this debate most likely. I sincerely hope this guy is just a troll.

@Okaydoka
Short answer: No
I have severely mentally ill sister and wouldn't want her killed because of a mere opinion.
To have a thought like this clearly means that you're part of that group.
Are people purposely killing my faith in humanity?
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