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Should the construction of Saudi funded mosques be banned?

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Started: 2/11/2019 Category: Religion
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VivekPandey

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Saudi Arabia is known for its Wahhabi style islam, Which is the worst ideology in the world. It destroys scientific reasoning, Tells muslims to kill non muslims, And jails women with the hijab and burqa. Mosques are being built all over the world on money that comes from this hellish country. And these mosques spew poison and destroy the indigenous culture. Secular societies and people are constantly under attack from these mosques. The priests in these mosques also come from saudi Arabia( or are paid by them).
So to protect our culture, And our secular spirit, We should immediately ban the construction of these mosques in Europe, America and India, And other places.
DumplingDebate

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The construction of Saudi funded mosques should not be banned.

First of all, It is true that Wahhabism is. . . Odd and is wide-spread in Saudi Arabia. But we should not ban them just for that. According to salon. Com, Atheism includes Wahhabists in Saudi Arabia.

Also, It is racist to just ban Saudi funded mosques just because a few people is Wahhabists. It's like saying that since that guy was bad, The whole race is bad. Saudi Arabia is the heart of Islam and many people go there for the Hajj, The Islam travel for being holy (if I am wrong, Plz comment).

Therefore, Saudi funded mosques should not be banned.
Debate Round No. 1
VivekPandey

Pro

You have a good argument that we should not judge all the muslims by the action of some of them and I also support that. But Saudi Arabia is trying to promote islamic extremism by these mosques. There is a term for that, Petro-Islam, And Saudi is building those mosques by their money.
Now, These are first step in radicalization. People are told to follow Arabian style islam, That is intolerant, And if they do not do so, Either they are deserted from the community, Or likewise threatened with their lives. And, This is especially true for women, Who refuse to wear islamic clothing.
So it is like islam is only for Arabian people, And it is their duty to mend people who do not follow their ways. The verses read during Azaan is in Arabic, And I found that even my muslim friends didn't know the meaning of it. What is whole point in reading Arabic stuff, If no one understands it?
Non muslims usually don't visit a mosque(and are unwelcome). So it becomes the perfect place for secret talks to happen. Add some extremist Saudi Arabia paid Maulvi, And you get a dangerous cocktail. These mosques do not agree to searches by the government and don't want to include local culture and language in their teachings. And on top of all of these, Wahhabi style islam teaches its followers to keep their god above everything else, Even the security of the nation.
The whole point in ignoring these mosques is political correctness. We do not want to offend muslims, But we have to care for our safety and culture too. When we visit their countries, We have to follow their rules. Same should be applied to them too.
Saudi funded mosques should be banned if they do not agree to certain rules and regulations of a country. It will then be said that secularism is being threatened. But I think, This issue has more to do with security than hate towards a religion.
Prevention is better than cure.
DumplingDebate

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It is true that Saudi funded mosques show Wahhabism but it is wrong to just ban these just because of their religion. It is racist.

Also, Not all Saudi funded mosques show extreme Islam. The East London Mosque is an example. Between 1975 and 1984, King Faud, The king during that time, Funded for the mosque. King Faud was part of the Al Saud family that supported Wahhabism.

Therefore, Saudi funded mosques should not be banned.
Debate Round No. 2
VivekPandey

Pro

There is no racism in pointing out wrongdoings by some mosques. I am not being against muslims, But that some of the ideals taught by extremists are just incompatible with our societies.
It is also said that mosques are not responsible for radicalization, But isolation and depression. These have solutions, But some Saudi funded mosques exploit these individuals to train them for extremism.
So we should ban the extremist mosques( there are some exceptions, Like the East London mosque, As pointed by you, Which are somewhat inclusive). If banning them is not an option, These mosques at least should be monitored closely by government authorities, So that extremist growth can be stopped.
DumplingDebate

Con

It is true that the Saudi funded mosques, With a few exceptions, Do preach extreme views. However, Banning them won't help stop Wahhabism. There will be secret meetings where Wahhabists and other secret ways of teaching Wahhabists. For example, During the time of the Prohibition, There were illegal places where alcohol was sold.

Also, If they are banned, Wahhabists will get angry, And may make terrorist attacks.

Therefore, Saudi funded mosques not should be banned.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by DumplingDebate 3 days ago
DumplingDebate
Just asking:

Wahhibism is also common in Qatar. Then should the mosques funded by them be banned?
Posted by EStone523 4 days ago
EStone523
I'm trying to decide if I really want to debate this. I am all about the freedom of Religion, However, I also believe that religion is not an excuse to be used for the idea of genocide and the call for violence against certain groups of people.
Posted by emsiblook 4 days ago
emsiblook
Nothing wrong with a religious spirit. The problem is when it goes to far.
Posted by killshot 4 days ago
killshot
Sounds good to me :)
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