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Should we use fortnite default skin instead of high-tier ones?

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Started: 2/9/2019 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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anc2006

Pro

People always rely on money. They use it to buy cars, Shop delis, Or spend them in game. The ultimate goal of living a true good life is supported by the judge in the temporal economics, The money. The currency system in Fortnite is called V-bucks. Which can be earned if the player wins the entire battle of one hundred people in total, Or just exchanged upon the real money. The epic items in the game cost more or less, 900 V-bucks, While the legendary ones cost even more, More or less 2000. However the default skins, As the game suited for you at the start of the gaming journey, Is completely free. No additional sign-ups, And obviously, No waste of money! While playing minimal, People can actually donate a lot of money for the country, Or at least for themselves (if 10 million people each saved $4, The outcome is $40 million, Which is enough to build enough solar panels in the desert to at least make their electrical usage to be completely free). A totally different choice would either be a double-waste or a double-save outcome, And the more ethical one would be the second choice to make the world better instead of ignoring in the fog of fossil fuels.
omar2345

Con

People always rely on money. They use it to buy cars, Shop delis, Or spend them in game. The ultimate goal of living a true good life is supported by the judge in the temporal economics, The money.
No contention.

However the default skins, As the game suited for you at the start of the gaming journey, Is completely free.
People play video games to have fun. This can be a reward system. If that reward system is removed then all fornite has is the gameplay. You would be saying why am I still playing this game when I have nothing valuable to earm? If the reward system was still in place people have a reason to carry on playing. Since you or me don't have a say in the video game. Epic games does your plan will not go through. In order for Epic Games to retain their customers they have to include this reward system. Without it Epic Games would not be making so much money and players would not carry on playing as much as they do now.

People can actually donate a lot of money for the country, Or at least for themselves
I wouldn't advise giving money to the government apart from the taxes you already pay and keeping your money can be a good thing. People find value in fornite and they can spend money on something they find valuable. That is not a problem only if they become poor from it.

(if 10 million people each saved $4, The outcome is $40 million, Which is enough to build enough solar panels in the desert to at least make their electrical usage to be completely free).
You advocating for socialism or communism. The problem is that we have to assume everyone wants to pay that amount. If they do not why would they just give away 4 dollars to a some sort of country goal of building solar panels?

I thought this was about fornite until you added other issues.

Await your response.
Debate Round No. 1
anc2006

Pro

If people learned visual arts in their days, They probably learned that red or light green is more attractive than gray or black. Yes, So the opposition of high-tier skins are supported by it. High-tier items usually satisfy the players" eyes, Yet unlike some other games, That add null to the gaming experience. On the other hand, It actually harms the good games of the people (unless if all of them are Ninja). Hiding into the bushes still expose a sufficient amount of pixels to expose the skin itself, And thus that may let the opponents finish you before you can find their dull trace in their default skins. Even if the gamer"s tag is on the top, It is still harder to get the first vision to hit the player in default skin than the fancy, Shiny, Hippy-looking high-tier skin. And it saves money on the top of all!
omar2345

Con

High-tier items usually satisfy the players" eyes, Yet unlike some other games, That add null to the gaming experience.
It gives the player satisfaction for unlocking it or being different when he/she interacts with other player. Are you saying they should buy skins that give an advantage in game without it only being cosmetics based?

On the other hand, It actually harms the good games of the people (unless if all of them are Ninja).
Tfue is better.

Hiding into the bushes still expose a sufficient amount of pixels to expose the skin itself, And thus that may let the opponents finish you before you can find their dull trace in their default skins. Even if the gamer"s tag is on the top, It is still harder to get the first vision to hit the player in default skin than the fancy, Shiny, Hippy-looking high-tier skin. And it saves money on the top of all!
They take the risk using it. They did not do it because it gives them some sort advantage in game instead it makes them look nice. They can show their friends etc. Without a reward system many people would have left fornite a while ago.
Debate Round No. 2
anc2006

Pro

Because the default skin is a signal of "nooby and trashy", And that is what the first impression of that might look like when a high-tier player sees them. They do not have the impression to shoot them at the first pace while they wait for their bad skills and thus giggle at them. Because of this, It is also proven the "default trick" still fool them outside of the second look. Before the second look the high-tier player might be dead indeed. One representative person of the example is Tfue. The well-playing of this person furtherly proves that default skin does not hinder anything. The exposure of the fancy and hippy-looking pickaxe might also expose them all. The fault on top of that is the Battle Pass. It degraded the essential element of the game itself. A shooting game is never meant to be a fight of clowns. A shooting game is never meant to be over-complicated as a battle of exposing bodies. The battle pass costs money in real life, And that concluded it all by going back into the first idea: if you are trying to save money for your life, Always go default and minimal, Always choose the ethical choice, Always win in life one step ahead of people.
omar2345

Con

Because the default skin is a signal of "nooby and trashy", And that is what the first impression of that might look like when a high-tier player sees them. They do not have the impression to shoot them at the first pace while they wait for their bad skills and thus giggle at them. Because of this, It is also proven the "default trick" still fool them outside of the second look.
This only works if people are fooled. If people know about it and decides to use a default skin then it would not work. It only works if people are ignorant to the current perspective of the game.

The well-playing of this person furtherly proves that default skin does not hinder anything.
Tfue is good because he wants to be good at the game. Most people cannot put in the time like he did. Which is why they go for easier goals like skins.

The fault on top of that is the Battle Pass.
If you remove the battle pass most of your playerbase will go. You have to understand the casuals or not the hardcore community that play fornite have the goal of getting skins. If you remove that then why would they play? To buy skins instead of earning it? Yes you have to buy the battle pass but that opens up earning skins rather than buying them.

It degraded the essential element of the game itself. A shooting game is never meant to be a fight of clowns.
The problem is that Epic Games want to make money not keep the hardcore community happy. Reason is there is more money making skins then making a balanced video game.

A shooting game is never meant to be over-complicated as a battle of exposing bodies.
Well money talks and Epic Games follows. If there was money in making the best shooter possible but it doesn't as much as making skins.

if you are trying to save money for your life, Always go default and minimal, Always choose the ethical choice, Always win in life one step ahead of people.
My stance is do what you want that makes you happy. Most people who play fornite have fun gaining something new not improving in the game.

When people say save for the future. They expect to be alive when they can reap the benefits. What if you don't make it for whatever reason? I am not saying not do some sort of planning for the future but the present is important and if you don't enjoy it you are leaving your future self the burden with trying to make you happy. Since money does not equal happiness I would advise not to micro-manage every single part of your life in the hopes you would be happy in the future.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
If no one accept by tomorrow. I will.
Posted by anc2006 3 years ago
anc2006
@kwbc I have to leave space for the next 2 rounds. These are not my only reasonings.
@omar2345 Fortnite is a part of life.
Posted by anc2006 3 years ago
anc2006
@kwbc
I am straightforward right here. If you want to pick our own fight you can take the challenge. I can accept you and leave you anything you needed. But if your English teacher complains, That will be your own responsibility.
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
@kwbc

Be nice. His points are good just want to know how far I can take the debate in the direction I want to.
Posted by kwbc 3 years ago
kwbc
This debate is a 13 year old trying to have a discussion because he has no friends and is too poor to afford skins
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
So is this a debate about fornite or life?
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