The Instigator
ChickenNosedHen
Con (against)
Tied
0 Points
The Contender
questioneverything2001
Pro (for)
Tied
0 Points

The amount of mental health in film and TV at an unhealthy level

Do you like this debate?NoYes+1
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Post Voting Period
The voting period for this debate has ended.
after 0 votes the winner is...
It's a Tie!
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/16/2018 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,051 times Debate No: 117743
Debate Rounds (4)
Comments (0)
Votes (0)

 

ChickenNosedHen

Con

The amount of Mental health shown in film is not yet at an unhealthy or dangerous level. There are one or two examples where yes things go overboard, Particularly 13 Reasons Why. But one or two shows should not speak for an entire issue, That would simply be blowing things out of proportion. There are guidelines made by the world health organisation and IASP (International Association for Suicide prevention) that are more often than not met and furthering the guidelines there is usually national recommendations as well. By stating that there is a huge problem and no limitations we are giving power to a subject that is already powerful enough as it is.
questioneverything2001

Pro

The issues with mental health's portrayal in media go far beyond the depiction of suicide in shows like "13 Reasons Why" (which as you mentioned did a poor job of complying with IASP guidelines). What can be even more damaging is misrepresentation of mental illness. For example, The T. V. Show "Monk" has a detective character who uses his OCD to solve crimes, Whereas in reality OCD is manageable at best and debilitating at worst. Even worse, Psychiatric hospitals, Which can help patients suffering from mental illness, Are rendered as nightmarish, Horrific places that will inevitably be more damaging than the mental illness itself. This can actually dissuade people suffering from mental health seeking treatment. Shows featuring depression and suicide often claim to be making a positive influence and "opening a dialogue about mental health. " However, The reality is that the people making these shows are not psychologists, And lack the tact required to not do harm.
Debate Round No. 1
ChickenNosedHen

Con

The T. V. Show "Monk" shows OCD is manageable and in some cases helpful at the minor end of the spectrum therefore showing that many health issues can be taken in stride. Furthermore the point made that misrepresentations of facilities should be backed up by reference or evidence as all depictions I've personally seen have been realistic portrayals unless in "comic" shows such as Gotham or Lucifer and even one in Monk that in context for the plot is run by a serial killer therefore not presented as realistic for plots sake, To further this may I recommend the centres in Sala Samobojcow.

By talking about mental health issues in film we are removing the stigma in our society around these topics, This in turn encourages and allows more people to speak out about these issues and for people to accept them. Whilst doing so we are showing these things are real and affect many people in a medium that is accessible for many people and showing it in a way they understand (even if exaggerated).
questioneverything2001

Pro

First of all, My point was that "Monk" depicting OCD as beneficial is totally inaccurate and because a study by the National Mental Health Association found 70% of people get their information about mental health from TV and movies, This can spread misinformation. As for the theory that depiction in media destigmatizes mental illness, Misrepresentations of mentally ill people as violent can serve to further stigmatize them. According to analysis by Don Diefenbach, Professor of mass communications at UNC-Asheville, Characters "label[ed] as having a mental illness were 10 times more likely than other TV characters to commit a violent crime and between 10 to 20 times more likely to commit a violent crime than a person with mental illness would be in real life. " Finally, Nightmarish insane asylums are a common trope in horror movies, And while there are certainly some movies which depict mental health facilities accurately, There are just as many that don't.
Debate Round No. 2
ChickenNosedHen

Con

Monk depicted OCD as a problem that can be dealt with, And while it benefited him didn't in some way, Sherlock the most iconic detective in fiction didn't benefit from drugs etc. They may not benefit everyone in the same way but they do show that it is something they can live with. Following your points of asylums in horror movies they are usually abandoned and/or for the criminally insane which naturally makes them hold more dangerous patients making them a better fit for airy horror films. Mental health in film is rarely depicted as violent so while it may be shown as 10 to 20 times more likely to commit a violent crime it is not seen as often to have it create any major problems with there depictions.
Mental health in film and T. V. Is benifical to at the very least introduce people to these topics allowing people to research and learn more to help themselves and family if they have reasons to believe someone needs help. It can also be a good way to show where to get help
questioneverything2001

Pro

The question is not whether the depiction of mental illness in media can be helpful, Rather it is whether it currently is. While there may be a beneficial way for TV to introduce people to menral health disorders, Currently most TV shows give such an inaccurate depiction that they do more harm than good. Expecting people to do more research is unrealistic as like I mentioned last time, 70% of people get all their information about mental health from TV. If mental health is portrayed in TV the creators have a duty to depict it accurately and currently most fall very short.
Debate Round No. 3
ChickenNosedHen

Con

The question of mental health portrayal in the media being in the media is absolutely part of the question because on multiple occasions you have stated it is shown in a dangerous mannor therefore implying that should it be implemented how you see as 'right' that there would infact be no problem. Mental health in the media has made the subject less 'taboo' someone suffering from these problems are more able to come out about it and feel like there is more room to talk about because they are now more widely known problems thanks to there media coverage. If we continued what has been done in the past, Not adress the issue and move on, People would be left to figure out what is wrong on there on own. It is common knowledge that what is on tv is usually an inaccurate representation of real life, And because of that common knowlage when people watch mental health depictions they understand that it is not shown accidently but it still gives the idea and a basic representation of what it is.
questioneverything2001

Pro

Theoretically, If mental health was depicted the right way in media, It could be beneficial. However, As I have pointed out, It very rarely is. TV writers are not mental health experts. The benefits of a mental illness being depicted on TV are cancelled out by the misinformation that is spread by an inaccurate depiction. If the only information you get about mental health is through TV, Even if you know TV is not always accurate, You will still come away with a warped image of what mental illness looks like. Mentally ill people are disproportionately depicted as violent, And shows depicting suicide and depression have never been shown to actually help people suffering with depression. In summation, Not only is the amount of mental health in media unhealthy, But the way media portrays mental health is as well. Good debate.
Debate Round No. 4
No comments have been posted on this debate.
No votes have been placed for this debate.

By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use.