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The bible and god has no place in a modern civilized society

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Started: 11/24/2017 Category: Religion
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backwardseden

Pro

https://www.youtube.com... 10 reasons why the bible is repulsive

Some laws of god...

Psalm 19:7 “The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.” Since the laws of the LORD are perfect they can NEVER change. And yet they do. Simple.

Isaiah 40:8 “The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

1 Peter 1 24-25 “For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: 25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”

2 Tiimothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

Proverbs 30:5 "Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him."

Now do you believe that you should die because YOUR god says so on a whim? OK so be it.

Exodus 31:15“Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.” So should you rightly die because you work on the sabbath? What if you have kids to feed? What if you are told to work on the sabbath or you will be fired? What then? Do you think that’s a just law? Why? Why not? Yeah YOUR god is stupid. And YES the bible really means what it says.

Yep. Do you REALLY want a book this vile and distasteful to be read by children and to children so they can get a yippy Kay yay wonderful messages from it?

Do you really want the bible used in our courts of law especially where there isn’t any law?

Deuteronomy 13 The entire chapter tells you to kill anyone who does not believe in your god. Verses 9-10 are especially keen on that. “9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.” So you come on down here and kill me because I do not believe in your god and because I am trying to take you away from your god. AND you kill anyone that does not believe in your god also. Do you think that’s a just law? Why? Why Not?

Deuteronomy 17: 2-5 basically states the same thing. “2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.”

Leviticus 24:16 “And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.” Wow. What a great god guy huh? So do you think this is s good just law? Why? Why Not?

The bible is VERY clear and concise. christians MUST kill EVERYONE that does not believe in their god. Now follow your lord thy god’s laws and do it! But you won’t now will you? NO! That’s because you know that your lord thy god is completely wacko and absurd. So in truth you do not believe in him. And remember all the 5 verses at the top of this debate!!! Your god’s laws CAN NOT be changed. They stand tall now as back as they did when they were first written.

Exodus 21:17 “And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.”

Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”

Mark 7:10 “For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:”

Matthew 15:4 "For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death."

Now should you be put to death because you curse at your parents? Why? Why Not? What if your parents rape, beat and torture you? What then? There’s no law to protect children in which should be one of the 10 commandments rather than god’s bloated ego. Children DO HAVE RIGHTS in spite of what YOUR bible says. Now should you be put to death for a completely absurd law because you curse at your parents in which YOUR bible had to repeat AT LEAST 4 times (yeah we got it) so it must be pretty important? Why? Why Not?


Leviticus 20:10 “And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Leviticus 20:13“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

Yeah god hates both gays and adulterers But like nearly everything there’s never a reason why. Man is just supposed to accept nonsensical goop coming from CHANGED printed text. Wow. Proof of that its a lot of fun to compare the English translations of Leviticus 20:13 to see how off they are. So do you believe that you deserve the death penalty just because you commit adultery or because you are gay? Why? Why Not?


Yep you carry around a book that demands the killing tens of millions of people, well that is detestable and offensive.


Deuteronomy 21: 18-21“18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.” So do you think that your son should be stoned to death just because he is like nearly every---single---teen---out---there that rebels against his parents when he becomes a teen? Why? Why Not?


Indeed YOUR snot nosed bible is so so so sexist. Indeed women have rightly and justly evolved beyond the cages of god.
1 Corinthians 14: 34-35 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.” WRONG.

1 Timothy 2: 11-15 “11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.” WRONG. Sorry but how racist can these verses possibly be? Women have risen far above this crap and ARE NOT mere sex toy child bearing machines as these verses would strap women down to the ground.

Leviticus 25:44-45“44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
Then there’s slavery folks. The owning of a person as personal property. In no way throughout the bible is this ever condondoned or disregarded. Not by god and certainly not by jesus. So do you think that slavery is evil and hate? Why? Why not?
A few more verses on slavery…Exodus 21:20-21“20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. 21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.”

Titus 2:9“Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again;”

Indeed YOUR god even hates children and infants which is the lowest of low. Sorry god, you cannot crawl out of the cellar to wipe you fanny with sandpaper to light up the septic tanks with this one…
Leviticus 26:21-22 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins. 22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.” Rob you of your children?

Hosea 13:16 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” Isn’t that a cute one?

Leviticus 26:29 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.” Yummy cannibalism.



RULES:
Put your brain together and think of ANYTHING to counter as to why the bible should be judged as a “good” book.

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icebeartheawesome

Con

Okay. the claim that religion is useless in society is definitely false. You see, murder was mentioned to be illegal in the bible. In brief, murder was shown to be a crime in the Bible. In today's society, murder, as well as theft and sexual immorality, is shameful, sinful, and punishable by death in some circumstances. I'm not saying that the world should be a theocracy. I simply want to voice my belief that religion, as well as the Bible and God, is important in society, no matter where you are. So whether you live in China or Ethiopia, in 2000 B.C. or in the far future, religion matters.
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Pro

Can't read can yah? See that why generative people like you perhaps don't belong in society is because you can't read. Where did I mention ANYTHING at all about religion in particular? No I mentioned god and the bible which is a HUGE difference from ALL religion. Murder was not shown to be a crime is the bible. Killing was. But then again, god killed so that's a HUGE super massive major hypocritical contradiction right there that proves you don't know what you are talking about.

Really? Sexual immorality is shameful? According to what? You? How would you know? Here in this country, not really. Sure its punishable by death in some instances, Yeah that's why we really need god alright. So here's you... Oh I get it, so if you as a christian were to see a gay person kissing another man and then see someone raping a 6 year old child, you'd call the police on the gay couple. Good job in proving just how badly we need christians in this country because it is only christians that opposes being gay at such high levels here on this soil. However, thankfully christianity is fading and failing fast and rightly so. Don't you christians have better things to do with your time like helping others like the 6 year olds being raped? Isn"t that what YOUR religion is supposed to teach you? But then again it doesn"t teach you that at all now does it? It in fact it teaches you to hate. That"s because god is based entirely on hate which is so ridiculously easy to prove as god hates children. The hate has gotta stop people. christians need to become responsible and own up to their stupid mind numbing that don"t--make--any--sense--stances. christianity has lost 5.1% of its following since 2007 and atheism has doubled. 5.1% is a huge number. Rightly. Justly. god most certainly is NOT important. And it is so clear that you haven't read your bible at all.

Richard Dawkins is so right "The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. Those of us schooled from infancy in his ways can become desensitized to their horror."

"I would say that instructions to kill homosexuals is immoral. I would say the subjugation of women is immoral. I would say that having women inferior position to men is immoral. I would say that selling your daughter into slavery is immoral. I would say that sacrificing the first thing that comes out of your house is immoral. I would say that substitutional atonement is immoral. I would say that the very concept of of sin is immoral" the idea that I could somehow offend a god or something that I could think or do which has no impact in or around in reality is immoral. I would say holding someone responsible for the sins of their father under the fourth or the tenth generation is immoral. How many more do you need before you recognize you are making excuses that advocates for immoral positions?" Matt Dillahunty

"Stop making excuses for your holy book. It is an abomination. It encourages abomination. And the more you sacrifice your humanity and morality to make excuses like "well god really wanted people to love each other but they just wouldn"t so they just wanted to nudge them in the right direction by saying you can own people but don"t beat them too damn much." Its still a weaka$$ immoral god. And YOU are better than that. Stop making excuses for the immorality. Take responsibility for your life and realize that if a GOD tells you that you can own somebody, that GOD is a piece of s--t." Matt Dillahunty

And I know just by your personality that you will never make it to RD5. You are a true cope out and a coward.
icebeartheawesome

Con

I believe that you are wrong. Atheism is perfectly legal, yet harmful to society. I vote we keep religion and morals important for all of us. Thank you and have a nice day.
Debate Round No. 2
backwardseden

Pro

Typical christian response without proof. Prove that atheism is harmful to society. Now have you actually read your bible? Obviously not. You were shown directly why your god is a miserable loathing hateful god. Naturally you cannot take your bible at its word. Naturally you also broke the rules of the debate. "Put your brain together and think of ANYTHING to counter as to why the bible should be judged as a "good" book." And you cannot even do that.
icebeartheawesome

Con

Okay, you bully. God gave us His Word as true. Religion is different from math or science. While math and science will always hold true no matter what, e.g. 1+1 always is 2, cells will always reproduce via mitosis, we have to accept religion as true beforehand. Please read John 1:1 and tell me your opinion.

I assume you are atheist or agnostic, and it may seem okay, but really you are breeding hate and increase of secularism. This why atheism/agnosticism is the biggest harm to society, right after racism.
Debate Round No. 3
backwardseden

Pro

YOUR god is the bully. OK great so YOUR god's word is true. Wow did you even read ANYTHING, ANY VERSES AT ALL from RD1? No apparently not. Now I haven't even gotten started from the horrors and the terrors of YOUR god from HIS bible. YOUR god truly hates children for jeez sakes with truly sick and diseased verse after verse after verse. Your god LOVES raped women with verse after verse after verse. YOUR god ensues slavery with verse after verse after verse. YOUR god ensues deliberate genocide for no reason at all with verse after verse after verse. YOUR god hates gays for no reason at all etc etc etc. It is so clear that you haven't read YOUR bible AT ALL and yet you pretend that you have. Typical christian unknowing belief. And yet there's a 0% of a chance that you can take YOUR god at his word. NONE. SHEESH. Its all there right there for you SPLAT, read some of it in RD1. Also watch the video. And if you still come out as a believer, then something is seriously wrong with your insight and intelligence.

YOUR god breeds hate. "More people have died in the name of god than for any other reason." George Carlin and he's 100% right.
I also posted very correct statements from prominent people of society in RD2 in which you ignored which is the typical christian out - to ignore evidence because christians have---no---evidence. And you think I'm hate? W-R-O-N-G. You cannot even live up to the rules of the debate as stated TWICE.

You want my sympathies? Think again. Pretend time is over.
icebeartheawesome

Con

Whoa, buddy! You're saying that my god breeds hate. Also, to clear up the bullcrap and get to the core of the matter, if religion and god doesn't guide us in society, what does? the media? Religion has a place in modern civilized society regardless of what you think. Roughly 3 in 4 Americans are religious to some degree. You, as an atheist, don't believe in any deity, because that is part of the official definition of an atheist. If that is so, you have no faith in anything, and you probably believe in superstitions, such as saying that 13 is bad luck or left-handedness is evil. If that is so, you will blame everything for bad luck. But back on track...if you truly believe that religion is useless in today's society, then we might as well abolish religion if it's absolutely useless. Not so: religion is still legal in certain countries. If the American constitution states freedom of religion as one of our many basic rights, then it's implying that religion is legal and that religion is useful, to some degree, in modern day society.

Atheism, just like racism or gay rights, is causing a lot of troubles. Atheism pulls people away from faith and spirituality, and brings them to superstition and immorality. Therefore, since utopia has no superstition or corrupt people involved, religion is what we need to prod people in the right path. I'm not in any way saying that atheism must be illegal; I'm asserting that religion leads people in the right path, prevents immorality, and also makes people be nicer and honest. Isn't that what all religions teach and what society needs? (Who wants a world filled with rape and liars?)

I really recommend that society becomes more moral and less perverted in all circumstances applicable.

We are getting near the end of our debate. I want to bring this to your head that religion matters.

God is the creator of the universe since the beginning of time,
Our father who is glorious, sinless, and sublime.
He leads us away from immorality and perversion.
But for religion we have created other versions.
Islam was created as a religion of peace,
It's origin is here for us to tease.
Cults sprang up throughout human history,
And also we have people addicted to technology and pastries.
The world is slipping into great corruption,
With discrimination by whites towards Africans and Asians.
ISIS has destroyed people by the dozens.
And people cheat on their spouses, lying and lustin'
Communism and evolution are nothing but bullcrap,
And so many kidnappers and phishers pulling us into traps.
Someone must step up and reform dilapidated society.
You see, one man can't, no one has such high piety.
Therefore religious movements like the Great Awakening shall make us more righteous.
And that is exactly what God and the Bible does.
Debate Round No. 4
backwardseden

Pro

Wow. Um partly correct. Your god does not only breed hate, he is hate. After all if god is god, then he"s gotta be hate also - correct? If not then in no way is he a god. Oh but wait, you must think that"s up to satan for hate to take place - correct? Well then if so then that must mean that god is not in control of satan, that this god of your allows satan to do whatever he wishes, that this god of yours does not know everything (does not know what satan will be doing), thus is not all knowing and not all powerful, is clearly not omnipotent and is not perfect. Oh but wait by gum" YOUR god created satan so this god of YOURS must have known what evil and hate was in order form him to have created satan to begin with thus making this god of your a truly sick and twisted diseased evil and hateful s.o.b. Now if you do not understand that read it again.
Oh but wait" Evil and hate is NOT a necessity. Evil and hate is NOT a need. Evil and hate is NOT a requirement. ONLY in YOUR god"s office it is.
Your god has freely admitted to having anger, wrath, vengeance, rage, fury, jealousy. Jealousy? What from a supreme deity? Jealousy is nothing more than anger as disguised fear. Even worse is this supposed god of yours passed down those emotions so man could in turn learn to hate with all the baggage that comes along with it that these emotions clearly are that this god drags around with him. Hey god, dump those emotions and how"s about thinking about peace, kindness, love, caring for each other, harmony etc? Nah. So don"t talk to me or anyone that YOUR god is "good" when he is most certainly not anything like it. Not only that since this god of YOURS has these emotions it clearly means that he is imperfect. Now who in their right stale mind would ---ever--- want to bow down to an inferior supreme deity bile god such as the one you picked from your closet because what else could it be?
Strange isn"t it that in comparison that the Inca, many of the native American Indian tribes until your white man greasy sweaty racist pig christian wiped them out, the aborigines, Hindu"s, Gaia Mother Earth, Buddhists etc etc etc they do not practice nor preach nor go to war over their religions, not anywhere close to the evils nor hate that the christians do. Now why is that? And yet according to your god worshiping other gods is considered to be the most evil thing there is, and you should be stoned to death for it. So you follow your lord"s orders and you come on down here and stone me to death. Whatsamatter? You are not going to follow your god"s orders? Why? Why not?

"if religion and god doesn't guide us in society, what does?" I ---never--- said it didn"t. And its time to get rid of religion. ALL OF IT. There can be no worldwide peace with religion in it. And yes, the media certainly guides us as well. The media needs to be gotten rid of as well for worldwide peace to occur.
"Religion has a place in modern civilized society regardless of what you think." No it doesn"t because they are all false and not one of them, not one, has ---ever--- god"s been proven true and fails all demonstrations. Thus they all give false hope, especially your god. And if you believe in christ, that"s even more especially true as christ is a false prophet in which is so easy to prove. Religion goes to war over religion all---the---time. Atheism has NEVER gone to war over atheism. christ is the most fought over figure in history. Now what part of that don"t you understand?

"Roughly 3 in 4 Americans are religious to some degree." Oh really? According to what? You? How would you know? What grade of bile electronics media gibberish graduation party have you graduated from to make such an absurd accusation? EVERYBODY NO EXCEPTIONS NONE IS BORN AN ATHEIST. And religion NEEDS to be taught to EVERYBODY. AND ATHEISTS KNOW THE BIBLE generally A LOT BETTER than most christians. Ah yes, 80%, yes that"s roughly 80% of those who claim to be christians don"t even read their bible"s except for once every other week, of that, AND its only a few verses, IF that. Is that you? Sure! Why not? And if not, then your comprehension skills SUCKS!!!!!!! And wow does it show with your utter lack of knowledge in YOUR bible and god.

"You, as an atheist, don't believe in any deity," Sure. "Atheism is a response to a single claim, that some god exists. We don"t believe that"s true so we"re atheists. And that"s all it means." Jen peeples "If that is so, you have no faith in anything," Oh please. That has got to be one of the top 3 dumbest things EVER stated of all time. Its right up there with someone actually believing that one of the 10 commandments is overeating and obesity. There"s faith that can be put in EVERYTHING. NO EXCEPTIONS. NONE. I have faith in gravity. I have faith the sun will set. I have faith the pen I am holding I will stop using it. Sheesh what an absurd statement. Yeah you guessed it, faith DOES NOT WORK with YOUR god.

Faith is the number#1 thing preached in the bible which only shows god superior arrogant ego complex. And remember, YOUR god still cannot be proved. god is only words in a little blank black book. Nothing more. And faith is not guidance either nor is it a pathway to truth of any kind. After all ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is based on faith.

Now think about this in full detail" "Why would you believe anything on faith? Faith isn"t a pathway to truth. Every religion has some sort of faith. If faith is your pathway you can"t distinguish between christianity, Hinduism, judaism, any of these others. How is it that you use ---reason--- in every of the other endeavor in your life and then when it comes to the ultimate truth, the most important truth your"re saying that faith is required and how is that supposed to reflect on a god? What kind of a god requires faith instead of evidence?" Matt Dillahunty

"Faith is the reason people give when they don"t have evidence." Matt Dillahunty and you don't

"Faith can be very very dangerous, and deliberately to implant it into the vulnerable mind of an innocent child is a grievous wrong." Richard Dawkins

"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is the belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." Richard Dawkins

Oh absolutely not do I have any superstitions. But I will tell you this" I could tell you some true stories that would turn your soul black and then I would tell you about me. You have absolutely no idea, none as to what true suffering is. christ had it easy.

So what if religion is a legal in many countries? That doesn"t make it a good thing now does it by golly gosh darned gee whiz. Religion creates conflict. It does not create peace. And think about this" Under your god, your god could have created an era of peace, love, harmony, care for each other. Nah. He chose hate, evil, genocide, war, etc etc etc.

"Atheism, just like racism or gay rights, is causing a lot of troubles." Really? According to what? You? How would you know? What grade of neolithic bumbling babbling baby brained bible bruise nothingness severe bigoted stuttering and not knowing anything about culture does that come from. I get it, so according to you, and your god, you"d stone ALL GAYS TO DEATH - right? So follow YOUR god"s ORDERS and do it. NOW you self righteous self centered prick. And while you are at it, since I do not believe in your god as well come on down here and stone me to death also you pathetic hateful troublesome maggot.
Ah yes, why don"t we all pass laws that should deny equality to those that are religious and believe in god? After all, it is they that hunt down the gays in numbers only with mammoth amounts of $$$$$ here in this country as they so lovingly trot their steps. Without their pathetic cowardly hateful religion, as god hates even children for jeez sakes, with their thankfully failing and fading numbers and $$$$$, yep, you can count on it, the issue of being gay here in this country would fizzle like a log cabin without the syrup and everybody who is gay would be accepted as being normal. Indeed it is religion and god that is highly abnormal because of all of its needless inspired hate. Now hate me all you want. That's exactly what your god demands. And no I am not gay darn it.

"Atheism pulls people away from faith and spirituality," OH NO IT DOESN"T. It pulls people away from your god. BIG DIFFERENCE. Plenty of atheists have spirituality, love, kindness, care for each other, - unlike you. You just proved it. I have a lot of spirituality. I believe in Gaia Mother Earth, nature and her spirit. Every living thing has a spirit. And your god would get jealous of that which is so pathetic in which no true god ---ever--- would but would cherish ALL life.

"I'm asserting that religion leads people in the right path," and yet you cannot even present one---single---verse in your bible that proves this. "prevents immorality, and also makes people be nicer and honest." No it doesn"t. Atheists are the most kindest, nicest people on the planet. That"s well known. And it might be a bit helpful of you would do just a teeny tiny bit of research before you splatter your brains down the gunshot barrel and the cannon goes BOOM! "Isn't that what all religions teach and what society needs?" Well yeah society does need that, but that most certainly NOT what YOUR religion teaches by any means you pathetic maggot who clearly didn"t read a f--king thing - verse from RD! Nor watch the video as I told you to so who cares what you think without any proof of any kind?

"Who wants a world filled with rape and liars?" You obviously do. Your god loves raped women as stated, with verse after verse after verse. Your god lies to his prophets and also lies to us all with one nice verse" which is a super fatal flaw in YOUR bible which proves that YOUR god is a contradictory hypocrite.
I'm out of space. You are a sad pathetic individual.
icebeartheawesome

Con

This is my last round, so I'm just going to say that you can see how our society has become more and more corrupt over time. The media, politics, and people's minds are all so corrupt. The only cure to corruption is religion. God has His plan for us by giving us His Bible and His son to guide us and lead us in the right path, but we don't listen, so we are cursed.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2 10 months ago
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@backwardseden you idiot!
Posted by backwardseden 10 months ago
backwardseden
@SirNoodles518 - "In Mass we are constantly told to live a good life where we are selfless and put the needs of others before the needs of yourself." I nor anyone else needs nor requires the hatred of christianity to do that. In fact atheism does that worldwide A LOT better BY FAR than christianity. But then again, you haven't done ANY type of research on the subject and wow does it show.

Naturally you completely avoided ALL of what was put forth to you in my previous post to you. WE ARE DONE. I'm really tired of you. No matter what is spoken unto you, you do not listen nor do you understand. Nor do you ---want--- to understand. If someone were to agree with ---exactly--- what you were to say, you would still manage to find fault with that person. So what's the point in me talking with you? There's no such a thing as thinking, reasoning, rationalizing, using common sense, nor using logic with you because your god, bible and religion does not have a single ounce of it as shown to you as YOUR god and christ are completely immoral and bankrupt. And yet you cannot even prove they exist!!!!!!!!! And the worst of it is you go into super MASSIVE denial. So I cannot bring up ---any--- points to you because you are so so so brainwashed. So its over. Your next post that you post me will be dutifully ignored. I cannot help you. Help yourself. Bye.
Posted by dsjpk5 10 months ago
dsjpk5
Calling Con sad and pathetic is unnecessary.
Posted by SirNoodles518 10 months ago
SirNoodles518
@backwardseden It's not bullsh*t. In Mass we are constantly told to live a good life where we are selfless and put the needs of others before the needs of yourself. And as I have said now for the third time, this teaching has lead many Christians to go out and help others.

What inspired Florence Nightingale to save hundreds of lives in the Crimean War? The teachings of Christianity.
What inspired Mother Theresa to go to Calcutta and look after all the people who were starving and dying? The teachings of Christianity.

These people were inspired by the teachings of Christianity and if the teachings of Christianity never inspired these two people then thousands would have died.
Posted by backwardseden 10 months ago
backwardseden
@SirNoodles518 - Bull f--king s--t. See what I mean you have not read your fricken bible AT all. Wow does it show.
Here's a few questions for you... Is killing evil? Y____? N____? Is slavery evil? Y____? N____? Is rape evil? Y____? N____? Is hating gays and wanting to stone them to death evil? Y____? N____? Is deliberate genocide evil? Y____? N____? Is hating children evil? Y____? N____? Is believing in different gods a warrant for death? Y____? N____? Is not believing in YOUR god worthy of being stoned to death? Y____? N____? All of these your god has freely admitted to and participated in. Is your jesus telling you to give up EVERYTHING including your ENTIRE family and all of your possessions and if YOU will NOT YOU will NOT become one of his disciples, is that evil? Y____? N____? And if not then clearly, why haven"t YOU done it? Do you believe that is perfectly OK for YOUR jesus to tell you to drink poisonous snakes venom and you will be fine afterwards? Y____? N____? Etc etc etc Now you look it up if you don"t believe me. Your god AND jesus are pure hate and they ARE immoral. If you think they are perfectly OK, then you are as immoral as YOUR god AND jesus.
Posted by SirNoodles518 10 months ago
SirNoodles518
But what I'm telling you is that one of the primary teachings of Christianity is to be selfless and help the less fortunate. That teaching has inspired many people to go out and save thousands of lives. If you ask me, the teaching to go out and help others does have a place in a modern civilised society.
Posted by backwardseden 10 months ago
backwardseden
@SirNoodles518 - I'm not even going to bother with you anymore until you have read YOUR bible. All of it. Starting out with genesis page 1.
Posted by SirNoodles518 10 months ago
SirNoodles518
In all fairness, Christianity has lead to people doing acts of goodness. In mass one of the things that is taught is that we should be selfless and put the needs of others first. I know you're going to send me some verses of God being "evil" and (I'm not going to lie) half the time I can't explain those quotes and have been searching for an answer myself. But the point is that in Christian masses, we are taught to be selfless and that has inspired many people to look out for the poor e.g. People like Mother Theresa and Florence Nightingale. Unarguably without them many more humans would have died.
Posted by backwardseden 10 months ago
backwardseden
So since text is out to prove god, what's next? Faith? Nope. Faith is the number#1 thing preached in the bible which only shows god superior arrogant ego complex. And remember, god still cannot be proved. god is only words in a little blank black book. Nothing more. And faith is not guidance either nor is it a pathway to truth of any kind. After all ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is based on faith.

Why would you believe anything on faith? Faith isn"t a pathway to truth. Every religion has some sort of faith. If faith is your pathway you can"t distinguish between christianity, Hinduism, judaism, any of these others. How is it that you use ---reason--- in every of the other endeavor in your life and then when it comes to the ultimate truth, the most important truth your"re saying that faith is required and how is that supposed to reflect on a god? What kind of a god requires faith instead of evidence? Matt Dillahunty

"Faith is the reason people give when they don"t have evidence." Matt Dillahunty

"Faith can be very very dangerous, and deliberately to implant it into the vulnerable mind of an innocent child is a grievous wrong." Richard Dawkins

"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is the belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." Richard Dawkins
Posted by backwardseden 10 months ago
backwardseden
"We have to rely on copies of copies of anonymous authors with no originals and the textural testimony to a miracle for example, there"s no amount of reports, anecdotal reports that is sufficient to justify in believing that actually happened as reported. And anything that would qualify as a god would clearly understand this and if it wanted to clearly convey this to people in a way that is believable would not be relying on ---TEXT--- to do so. And this to me is the nail in the coffin for christianity. The god that christians believe in is amazingly ---STUPID---!!! If it actually wants to achieve its goal by spreading its word to humanity by relying on text, by relying on languages that die off, by relying on anecdotal testimony, that"s not a pathway to truth. And anything that would qualify for a god would know this.which shows either god does not exist or doesn"t care enough about the people to understand the nature of evidence to actually present it. Now which of those two possibilities is accurate?" Matt Dillahunty

"If jesus and Muhammad and abraham and moses had never been born, which in any case I tend to dabble, if all their stories were untrue were suddenly found and everyone had to admit it some people I know would show panic. Now what would we do? We"d have no morals suddenly. What could be more nonsensical than that? As the matter of fact the position that we occupy would---be---precisely---the---same as it is now if none of these texts had ever been written, as if none of these lacerations had ever been made. We would still have to reason together about how how to treat one another, about how to build a just city, and about how to have irony and a sense of humor." Christopher Hitchens
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