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backwardseden
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ChristianAdversary
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The god of the bible and the bible has no place in a modern civilized society

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backwardseden

Pro

For starters, Here's an irrefutable video.
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=vkXOwBIRX7Y&t=215s - 10 Reasons why the bible is repulsive

1. Some laws of god. . .


Psalm 19:7 “The law of the LORD is perfect, Converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, Making wise the simple. ” Since the laws of the LORD are perfect they can NEVER change. And yet they do by PEOPLE. Simple.

Isaiah 40:8 “The grass withereth, The flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. ”

1 Peter 1 24-25 “For all flesh is as grass, And all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, And the flower thereof falleth away: 25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. ”

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, And is profitable for doctrine, For reproof, For correction, For instruction in righteousness:"

Proverbs 30:5 "Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. "
Meaning you nor anyone can NEVER change god's word. Yet some did and do to serve their wants, Needs and desires. Oh I forgot, That includes jesus, A false prophet, Another subject entirely.

2. Now do you believe that you should die because YOUR god says so on a whim? OK so be it.

Exodus 31:15“Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, Holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, He shall surely be put to death. ” So should you rightly die because you work on the sabbath? What if you have kids to feed? What if you are told to work on the sabbathor you will be fired? What then? Do you think that’s a just law? Why? Why not? Yeah YOUR god is stupid. And YES the bible really means what it says.

Yep. Do you REALLY want a book this vile and distasteful to be read by children and to children so they can get a yippy Kay yay wonderful messages from it?

3. Do you really want the bible used in our courts of law especially where there isn’t any law?

Deuteronomy 13 The entire chapter tells you to kill anyone who does not believe in your god. Verses 9-10 are especially keen on that. “9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, And afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, That he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, Which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, From the house of bondage. ” So you come on down here and kill me because I do not believe in your god and because I am trying to take you away from your god. AND you kill anyone that does not believe in your god also. Do you think that’s a just law? Why? Why Not?

Deuteronomy 17: 2-5 basically states the same thing. “2 If there be found among you, Within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, Man or woman, That hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, In transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, And worshipped them, Either the sun, Or moon, Or any of the host of heaven, Which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, And thou hast heard of it, And enquired diligently, And, Behold, It be true, And the thing certain, That such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, Which have committed that wicked thing, Unto thy gates, Even that man or that woman, And shalt stone them with stones, Till they die. ”

Leviticus 24:16 “And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, He shall surely be put to death, And all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, As he that is born in the land, When he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, Shall be put to death. ” Wow. What a great god guy huh? So do you think this is s good just law? Why? Why Not?

The bible is VERY clear and concise. Christians MUST kill EVERYONE that does not believe in their god. Now follow your lord thy god’s laws and do it! But you won’t now will you? NO! That’s because you know that your lord thy god is completely wacko and absurd. So in truth you do not believe in him. And remember all the 5 verses at the top of this debate! Your god’s laws CAN NOT be changed. They stand tall now as back as they did when they were first written.

Exodus 21:17 “And he that curseth his father, Or his mother, Shall surely be put to death. ”

Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. ”

Mark 7:10 “For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, Let him die the death:”

Matthew 15:4 "For God commanded, Saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, Let him die the death. "

Now should you be put to death because you curse at your parents? Why? Why Not? What if your parents rape, Beat and torture you? What then? There’s no law to protect children in which should be one of the 10 commandments rather than god’s bloated ego. Children DO HAVE RIGHTS in spite of what YOUR bible says. Now should you be put to death for a completely absurd law because you curse at your parents in which YOUR bible had to repeat AT LEAST 4 times (yeah we got it) so it must be pretty important? Why? Why Not?

Leviticus 20:10 “And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, Even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, The adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. ”

Leviticus 20:13“If a man also lie with mankind, As he lieth with a woman, Both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. ”

Yeah god hates both gays and adulterers But like nearly everything there’s never a reason why. Man is just supposed to accept nonsensical goop coming from CHANGED printed text. Wow. Proof of that its a lot of fun to compare the English translations of Leviticus 20:13 to see how off they are. So do you believe that you deserve the death penalty just because you commit adultery or because you are gay? Why? Why Not?

Yep you carry around a book that demands the killing tens of millions of people, Well that is detestable and offensive.

Deuteronomy 21: 18-21“18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, Which will not obey the voice of his father, Or the voice of his mother, And that, When they have chastened him, Will not hearken unto them: 19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, And bring him out unto the elders of his city, And unto the gate of his place; 20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, He will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, And a drunkard. 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, That he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, And fear. ” So do you think that your son should be stoned to death just because he is like nearly every---single---teen---out---there that rebels against his parents when he becomes a teen? Why? Why Not?

4. Indeed YOUR snot nosed bible is so so so sexist. Indeed women have rightly and justly evolved beyond the cages of god.
1 Corinthians 14: 34-35 “34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. 35 And if they will learn any thing, Let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. ” WRONG.

1 Timothy 2: 11-15 “11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, Nor to usurp authority over the man, But to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, Then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, But the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, If they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. ” WRONG. Sorry but how racist can these verses possibly be? Women have risen far above this crap and ARE NOT mere sex toy child bearing machines as these verses would strap women down to the ground.

Leviticus 25:44-45“44 Both thy bondmen, And thy bondmaids, Which thou shalt have, Shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, Of them shall ye buy, And of their families that are with you, Which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. ”

5. Then there’s slavery folks. The owning of a person as personal property. In no way throughout the bible is this ever condoned or overlooked. Not by god and certainly not by jesus. So do you think that slavery is evil and hate? Why? Why not?
Here's a few videos that prove god ensues slavery:
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=XIhNimX9Msk&t=643s%A0 - Is Slavery in the bible?
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=Qtl8hIzb66A&t=579s%A0 - Matt Dillahunty Destroys a theist over Slavery
A few more verses on slavery…Exodus 21:20-21“20 And if a man smite his servant, Or his maid, With a rod, And he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. 21 Notwithstanding, If he continue a day or two, He shall not be punished: for he is his money. ”

Titus 2:9“Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, And to please them well in all things; not answering again;”

6. Indeed YOUR god even hates children and infants which is the lowest of low. Sorry god, You cannot crawl out of the cellar to wipe you fanny with sandpaper to light up the septic tanks with this one…
Leviticus 26:21-22 “And if ye walk contrary unto me, And will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins. 22 I will also send wild beasts among you, Which shall rob you of your children, And destroy your cattle, And make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate. ” Rob you of your children?

Hosea 13:16 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, And their women with child shall be ripped up. ” Isn’t that a cute one?

Leviticus 26:29 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, And the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. ” Yummy cannibalism.
Here' a few video's to prove god hates children. . .
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=2zYG_fJLjBg&t=7s%A0 - god hates children
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=5kQTIX7NRE4&t=578s%A0 - Atheist Debates get them while they are young


RULES:
Put your brain together and think of ANYTHING to counter all 6 subjects as to what has been posted above as to why the bible should be judged as a “good” book and why the christian god should be worshiped for any reason(s). And again, NO ONE can change god's word PS 19:7, IS 40:8, 1 PT: 1 24-25, 2 TM 3:16, PR 30:5. God's word stands as is.

dsjpk5 is disqualified from the voting procedures as he tries to pretend he's god and thus change the voting structure of who wins and loses here on DDO.
ChristianAdversary

Con

I cannot believe the claims you are making, They are absurd. The Bible is not just a rule book it also helps people when they are down and teaches them to be strong for example:
Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through him who strengthens me.

Isaiah 41:10
Fear not, For I am with you; be not dismayed, For I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Deuteronomy 31:6
Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, For it is the Lord your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you.

Isaiah 40:31
But they who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not faint.

See these scriptures encourage and motivate people and when people are at their worst it shows them that there is someone that loves them when they feel depressed. But not only that but the bible has scriptures on encouraging but also has things that help with general health. For Example, In the Bible, It talks about being unclean and that you cannot touch the dead but at that time a lot of cultures did that and it caused a lot of airborne diseases. So the bibles laws actually saved lives. And in the bible, It says not to touch blood and again that used to happen and caused more diseases. And finally, It says don't eat pigs and you might say that is not bad but at that time people were dying because of diseases carried by pigs but as time went on it was ok to do in the New Testament. Also, The Bible gives input on just smart decisions For Example:
Ephesians 5:18
Do not get drunk on wine, Which leads to debauchery.
And That is why the Bible was useful then and is useful now.
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Pro

Figures that I'm dealing with yet ANOTHER teeny bopper 13 year old who doesn't have the faintest clue, Not at all, As to what they are squawking about.
Figures also that my opponent has in no possible way made any attempts whatsoever to refute ---any--- of what was posted in the 1st RD, Especially the verses themselves which prove that his unproven god is an arrogant a$$.

So since you did not, Can you honestly give me one reason why I should pay any attention, At all to anything you had to say? Anything?
Oh and btw, You didn't pay attention to the video in which the claims are made. Typical.

The bible, A rule book? To what and or who? And why?

Philippians 4:13 Has to do with christ, A false prophet, And has nothing to do with god. Please pay attention. Jeez. Now what does the headliner post state to the letter? So anything that has to do with christ is an automatic forfeit.

Isaiah 41:10
Ah yes, What a truly pathetic whimpering verse at best from a superior ego god complex in which the bible is entirely about and nothing else. Here's a question for you. . . Why can't you do the exact same thing on your own? Why do youi need, Require out of necessity a god to give you strength, Help, And to uphold you? Are you that pathetic and weak that your self esteem is so low that you require these things from something that is unproven? And since your god is unproven, What happens is this becomes a false hope.

Deuteronomy 31:6
There your bible goes again with your god's superior ego god complex.
"For it is the Lord your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you. " Well your unproven god did exactly that and did leave you and forsake you. Haven't you read your bible? But then again no god would be stupid enough, Not ever, Not for any reason, To use text as a form of communication namely your bible, The worst form of communication possible.

Isaiah 40:31
There your bumbling babbling baby brained bible goes again with your superior ego god complex Yeah. It truly is impossible, 100% for you to take care of your wants, Needs and desires.

Tell you what, Let's give you a morality test and see how you do. All 6 of these questions require a "no" answer. If you answer "yes" to any of these 6 questions it simply means that you are as immoral as your god. If you answer "no" to all 6 questions, Then the answer is simple, You go against your travesty of your god. Oh but wait, You cannot even prove that your god exists. And what idiot would want to? Oh and oh yeah, 4 of the 6 questions are taken directly for your 10 commandments. Btw, The nT is a lot worse than the OT. Ready?
* Do you think you should be put to death just because you blaspheme? Y____? N____? Your god thinks so. Leviticus 24:16 "And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, He shall surely be put to death, And all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, As he that is born in the land, When he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, Shall be put to death. "
* Do you think you should die if you work on the sabbath? Y____? N____? Your god thinks so. Exodus 31:14 "Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, That soul shall be cut off from among his people. ", Numbers 15: 32-36 " And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, They found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. 33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, And unto all the congregation. 34 And they put him in ward, Because it was not declared what should be done to him. 35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. 36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, And stoned him with stones, And he died; as the Lord commanded Moses. " Notice jesus worked on the sabbath, He was not put to death. Strange? That supposed "law" that christians use is in ill effect and does not work.
* Do you think you should die for merely cursing at your parents? Y____? N____? Your god thinks so. Exodus 21:17 "And he that curseth his father, Or his mother, Shall surely be put to death. , Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. ", Mark 7:10 "For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, Let him die the death:, Matthew 15:4 "For God commanded, Saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, Let him die the death. "
* Do you think you should die if you commit adultery? Y____? N____? Your god thinks so. Leviticus 20:10 "And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, Even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, The adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. "
* Do you think you should die if you are a homosexual? Y___? N____? Your god thinks so. Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, As he lieth with a woman, Both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. "
* Do you think you should die if you worship other gods? Y____? N____? Your god thinks so. Deuteronomy 13: 9-10 "9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, And afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, That he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, Which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, From the house of bondage. " AND 17: 2-5 "2 If there be found among you, Within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, Man or woman, That hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, In transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, And worshipped them, Either the sun, Or moon, Or any of the host of heaven, Which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, And thou hast heard of it, And enquired diligently, And, Behold, It be true, And the thing certain, That such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, Which have committed that wicked thing, Unto thy gates, Even that man or that woman, And shalt stone them with stones, Till they die. "

"See these scriptures encourage and motivate people and when people are at their worst. . . " Yeah if you believe in a completely immoral and bankrupt god in which billions don't. What you believe in its a "believe in me or else" situation. Yeah you believe in your "someone" because there's that special tinkering of if you don't, Something terrible and or horrific is going to happen to you. Well join the club in those that believe because they are terrified in they don't. I'm far far far too good for that as so are billions of others who do not believe in your special "someone". Thank god.

"it shows them that there is someone. . . " Whoa there horsey. "someone"? What "someone"? Why does there only have to be one "someone"? Why not thousands, Millions, Billions, Quadrillions of special "someones"? Or even "no ones"? Why not believe in yourself? "that loves them when they feel depressed. " Um no, It doesn't show them anything except that there's simple words on a page. Big deal. Just because there's words on a page, It doesn't make them believable in any possible way. Oh whoopsie! Ah yes, And your "someone", Did it ever dawn on you that this "someone" creates this depression that you refer to? Nah. It never entered your mind. Everything is supposed to be nice and cheery with your unproven god. Now how does someone go about believing in this "someone" oh like say they exist in the Brazilian rainforest and they've never had the chance to hear of this "someone" that you refer to, Thankfully? Yep. God damned right. You MUST believe in this "someone" first, Not before, This "someone", Whatever it is to show himself, And no you don't even have the foggiest idea as to what this "someone" is because this so-called "someone" never described whatever this "someone" is in your bible to be. How does someone actually communicate with this supposed "someone"? Oh and btw, Which "someone"?

"But not only that but the bible has scriptures on encouraging but also has things that help with general health. " Oh that's a good one. Really? You mean like don't eat shellfish as compared to owning people as slaves is a good idea? Or like its OK to rape women, But its not OK to believe in your "someone" or its death? Or how's about your bible ---never--- teaching one god damned thing about "washing your hands", But it does teach about idiotic things like hell and sinning which cannot exist without your "someone"/ god ARE YOU SERIOUS? Btw, Native American Indians in which your white man sweaty greasy pig supposed christian brethren nearly wiped them all out had and still have one helluva lot better science, Morals, Adequate than ---anything--- your "someone" could and had ever come up with. PE-IR-OD. That's because your "someone" came up with what science? Oh yeah those immorals and wondrous adequate also. Right?

Yeah, You in being only 13, Hopefully you fully understand and realize that you are better than your unproven god. Now am I stating that you should dump your god? No. But you should at the very least get/ gain just a little bit of self esteem, Of not a lot.
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Posted by backwardseden 2 months ago
backwardseden
@3Ducate - What would ever give you a clue that I am against abortion? Take one lucky guess and or stab in the dork as to how I feel about abortion? Thankful? Oh please. Your god favors abortion as proved. So you go against your god you love puppy. "What makes the children and mothers innocent? If they chose to reject God, Then so be it. " Deuteronomy 13: 9-10 "But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, And afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, That he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, Which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, From the house of bondage. " Deuteronomy 17: 2-5 "If there be found among you, Within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, Man or woman, That hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, In transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, And worshipped them, Either the sun, Or moon, Or any of the host of heaven, Which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, And thou hast heard of it, And enquired diligently, And, Behold, It be true, And the thing certain, That such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, Which have committed that wicked thing, Unto thy gates, Even that man or that woman, And shalt stone them with stones, Till they die. "
Now since I go against YOUR god, You follow your god's orders and you come on down here to Orlando, Fl where I live and you kill me as per your god's barking orders. YOU GOT THAT YOU F--KING PIECE OF IMMORTAL S--T? We're done. Bye.
Posted by 3Ducate 2 months ago
3Ducate
@ backwardseden
"Abortions. Let's get that out of the way". First, I must say, I"m very surprised you as an atheist are against abortion (but I"m thankful nonetheless). "innocent babies, Children and pregnant mothers", What makes the children and mothers innocent? If they chose to reject God, Then so be it. And the Bible clearly states that those not old enough to decide are not condemned. If God is the one who gives life, Is He unjust to take it? You say there are many translations and revisions, And that is very true, There are, And this makes sense according to Ephesians 6:12. Yet through all the translations, Only one is accurate -- the only one that"s not copyright, The one that"s straight from the Textus Receptus, The one that has stayed true, Enduring all critics" (hmm, I wonder which one that is 😉). "How do you know 100% positive that you are interpreting correctly? " I thought you"d never ask. You see, There"s something called "context", I know, It"s a bit of a big word for you, But still it"s a bit useful in situations like these 😊. "Then even worse is from translation to translation you have the problem of simple language". You might notice, This correct translation uses italics, To let the reader know of the language barrier that has been corrected; also, As common sense would prescribe, You shouldn"t translate from a translation, But from the original. "Just one reason why ---anyone--- would "want" to believe". I"d find it hard to try to find a reason NOT to believe -- 2 Timothy 3:16-17 essentially sums it all up.
Posted by backwardseden 2 months ago
backwardseden
There's certainly been a good at least 1 million transcribed versions of your bible with copies of copies of copies with translations upon translations upon translations with dead languages upon dead languages with absolutely no possible way to trace ---any--- of them back to the original. One major reason is that nobody knows if there is an original exists. And then so what if it is found? Ho is going to do proper translations so that ---everybody--- understands the proper translations your unproven god was trying to deliver? Then even worse is you have the idiots who do the updating of the translations who clearly get the messages wrong. Then even worse is from translation to translation you have the problem of simple language. In other words the Swahili version is going to be different from the Italian version and both are going to be different and not deliver the same messages, Not even close as to what the English versions do by simple language barriers. Then even worse is who are the maggots who change YOUR biblical verses AT ALL and thus update them and clearly get what your leading characters state and say - wrong? The NLT version as compared to the KJV version with your god and christ are very different from what they say.
So here's a couple of questions for you. . . How do you know 100% positive that you are interpreting correctly in which case there is no possible way that you can? How can you teach others of what misinterpretations you now know to be false are, Why should you be teaching to anyone? Especially how can you teach this crap to children now that you know its wrong? AND what can children possibly gain from YOUR misinterpretations?
If you are remotely intelligent and you have the intelligence of that above the size of a squashed grape, Now you fully understand that your unproven god would -never- not for any reason, Use text, Namely your bible, As a form of communication, The worst form of communication possible. But nothing. You lose.
Posted by backwardseden 2 months ago
backwardseden
* In Isaiah 45:7 KJV "I form the light, And create darkness: I make peace, And create evil: I the Lord do all these things. " In the NIV version its "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, The Lord, Do all these things. " In the NLT its "I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, The Lord, Am the one who does these things. In the ESV "I form light and create darkness; I make well-being and create calamity;I am the Lord, Who does all these things. " The words "evil" and "disaster" and "bad" and "calamity" are completely 4 completely different words that have 0% of nothing to do with each other and completely change the meaning of the verses. With each different verse, The messages are completely different. The synonyms of each word don"t even match. .
* 1 Peter 3:15 KJV "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" NLT "Instead, You must worship Christ as Lord of your life. And if someone asks about your hope as a believer, Always be ready to explain it. " KJV "meekness and fear" has NOTHING to do with NLT "always be ready to explain it". Who amputated this verse and who had the right to? AND even worse is this crap is all over your bible. It takes place all---the---time through different translations. Also notice that the KJV mentions "Lord god", The NLT mentions "you must worship Christ as Lord of your life". Well that's 2 completely and totally different translations right there. They have nothing to do with each other.
There's thousands of different translations like that throughout YOUR bible delivering completely different messages, Scribbles and ideas through different translations alone. There's over 500 English translations into who knows how many?
Posted by backwardseden 2 months ago
backwardseden
Abortions. Let's get that out of the way. . . How many pregnant women did your god murder during the great flood (which never happened btw)? How many pregnant women did your god knowingly murder during his massive genocides that he committed for absolutely no reason at all? OK so you supposed christians are contradictory hypocrites when you ---would--- be committing abortions especially since YOUR god has in his bible, That is IF and only IF you follow YOUR god in which you clearly don't. Even better? Thou shalt not kill. Well gosh golly gee gosh darned it all, How many innocent babies, Children and pregnant mothers, Men did YOUR god kill/ oh let's call it for what it truly is, "murder" for absolutely no reason at all? Sorry, Worshiping other gods and believing in other gods is NOT a reason to kill and murder others. Oh I get it, Its perfectly OK for your god to murder, But not man? Oh gee, But wait, Your god commanded man to murder/ kill for him in your bible. So once again YOUR god is a true 100% contradictory hypocrite. DO NOT bother trying to make feeble gestures to try and defend yourself and unproven god because there is no defense.
Let's move on. . .
Here's another reason why YOUR god would never use text as a form of communication.
* In the Bishop"s bible, The one before the KJV, The word "Tyrant" was used I don"t know how many times (its at least 400 from what completed records show) and then in the KJV that was replaced by "King". WHAT? Tyrant and King are two different and totally apples and oranges with each having totally different meanings.
* Proverbs 15:24 KJV "The way of life is above to the wise, That he may depart from hell beneath. " NIV "The path of life leads upward for the prudent to keep them from going down to the realm of the dead. " NLT "The path of life leads upward for the wise; they leave the grave behind. " Now, What do those very same verses and thus their translations have ANYTHING to do with each other?
Posted by backwardseden 2 months ago
backwardseden
@3Ducate - I'm sorry did you say something meaningful and insightful? There's nothing you can state or say until you prove that YOUR god exists considering the 100% fact that nobody, Not ever, Not one person, Has in the entire existence of the human race since your god's inception. You also cannot think of one, Just one reason why ---anyone--- would "want" to believe in the unproven god that you believe in? I'm not talking about the blistered crap like "god created all life" in which there's no proof of that by any means or "god is love" in which according to your horrific bumbling babbling baby brained big black hole of a superior ego god complex in which you bible is entirely about and nothing more, I'm talking about an honest true legitimate reason in which you cannot think of any.
"God has revealed himself through natural revelation (observable nature) and special revelation (the Bible). " Well that's 100% false. Because no "god" would be stupid enough, Not ever, Not for any reason to use text as a form of communication, The worst form of communication possible. There's at least 50 reasons why this is so. Let's see if you are intelligent and edumacated enough to think of just 3. Atheists have no problem with this.
"The Bible did this and it has 40 authors over the span of a thousand years (never once rewritten)" Oh but it has been rewritten. That's 1 reason why your god would -never- dream of using text. Time to slaughter you and make you look like a complete jerk and wow do you deserve it because it is those who pretend that they are true christians, When there is no such a thing, With all the smugness in the world, Who are completely bankrupt and immoral and believe in a bankrupt and immoral god who cannot prove even exists and thus thinks its perfectly OK to murder innocent babies, Children and pregnant mothers (abortions you ninny in which you so-called christians are so against, But your god is clearly not) just because words on a page says so.
Posted by 3Ducate 2 months ago
3Ducate
AKmath2,

God has revealed himself through natural revelation (observable nature) and special revelation (the Bible). These both keep everyone from being "without excuse" on our judgement day. Come on, Guys, Since when did order come from disorder? Isn't it funny how modern evolutionists are realizing this and are now saying things like "we must have come from aliens. " The Bible also is a miracle in itself - think about it: never in the history of mankind has a book been written by multiple authors and it not contradict itself. The Bible did this and it has 40 authors over the span of a thousand years (never once rewritten) - this is statistically impossible, Yet it exists in front of our eyes for everyone to read. It not only has no contradictions, But also has never proficied incorrectly. It's very sobering to see things mentioned in the Bible coming to pass as we speak! Things that are mentioned in Daniel, And Isaiah, And Revelation.

Also: what does minority and majority have anything to do with this? Does popularity determine truth? That is why America is not a democracy but a republic.

21stCenturyIconoclast,

'Christian' is a name given by the world to identify those who've accepted Jesus as their personal savior. Therefore there is no true division within Christianity (you're either saved or not saved). That being said, I'm not sure why anyone would be embarrassed about it. That's exactly why baptism is a thing -- to make an outward profession of one's decision that happened within his heart. The closest thing to some sort of division would be from those who've tried to corrupt Christianity yet continue in its name.

You're right, God does kill, But not without reason. Those who reject Him deserve no less; but, Scare tactics are not what the Gospel is all about. In fact, The Gospel translates as 'Good News'; it is good news because it tells how one does not have to live a life of fear, Nor an eternity of fear, But of peace and joy.
Posted by 21stCenturyIconoclast 2 months ago
21stCenturyIconoclast
AKmath2,

YOUR IGNORANT QUOTE: "On what basis is the christianity primitive? "

Huh? Your disgusting and damaging Christianity was hatched in the PRIMITIVE Bronze and Iron Age, Where the earth was thought to be flat, The Ptolemaic planetary system was in vogue, And where many other pagan gods equal to your serial killing Yahweh/Jesus were created. Then you have the audacity to ask me why Christianity is primitive? Surely you jest, Yes?

So, You are Catholic and proud to be a member of a primitive thinking church that lives and still thinks in the primitive Bronze and Iron Age, Notwithstanding, Being proud that your disgusting coverups of your priests buggering innocent children. Good for you! Then you wonder why you are despised in the 21st century by rational thinking individuals! Lol

Save your insidous fallacy of Argumentum ad populum for your equally dumbfounded Catholic pseudo-christians, Okay? As it has been shown ad infinitum, The majority of any society are weak-minded individuals that can swallow a pagan faith like yours, And this does not mean that stupidity rules the thinking of everyone, Get it?

Who in the hell would want to prove your serial killer Yahweh/Jesus/Allah exists in the first place? ! For the inept pseudo-christian like you, You don"t have the sense to feel embarrassed if you could prove your disgusting killing god exists!
Posted by backwardseden 2 months ago
backwardseden
@AKmath2 - Wow. Not too bright. "While I can't prove a God exists, " So why believe in something that you cannot prove exists?
Posted by AKmath2 2 months ago
AKmath2
@21stCenturyconoclast
On what basis is the christianity primitive? It's actually quite complex. I'm Catholic and proud to be one. As the largest faith on planet Earth, You are at a big minority because you don't believe in any god/diety. While I can't prove a God exists, You can't proce he doesn't exist.
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