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There is only one human disease

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Started: 11/18/2018 Category: Science
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Akhenaten

Pro

There is only one human disease. There are not thousands of different diseases.
Evan_Hermes

Con

I disagree. There are many, Many diseases, Not just one. You can tell they are different because of the different viruses that cause them, The different symptoms, And how deadly each one of them is.

For example, I will compare HIV and influenza. They are 2 completely different diseases. HIV weakens a person's immune system by destroying important cells that fight disease and infection. No effective cure exists for HIV. But with proper medical care, It can be controlled. Influenza is a contagious respiratory illness caused by viruses that infect the nose, Throat, And sometimes the lungs. It can cause mild to severe illness, And at times can lead to death. There is a vaccination for the flu, But it only works for one specific type of the virus.

If there was only one human disease, Then wouldn't there be one cure? There obviously isn't one clue for all diseases, Which means there isn't just one disease.
Debate Round No. 1
Akhenaten

Pro

My opponent has come up with HIV and Influenza as examples of two different diseases. Well, For a start nobody has ever seen a HIV virus. Its just a theoretical hypothesis or an assumption of virus. Most diseases are tested using a symptom based formula for determining which disease that you have. HIV uses viral loading. The way they determine viral loading is by taking a blood sample and putting it through a blender and then filter the result. Particles of a certain size are then said to be 'viruses'. Having worked in an electron microscope lab myself, I personally know that there are no such things as viruses. Just because a particle of matter is a certain size doesn't make it a virus. HIV testing is just a scam.

Influenza is said to be a virus also but this is just a scam. If you avoid dairy, Grain, Sugar, Alcohol and fat you will never get a 'cold', 'flu' or 'influenza virus'. That's because there are no viruses and never have been any viruses. Viruses are just an invention of the medical system which were discovered at the same time that they discovered that bacteria doesn't cause disease. If you eat the right foods which is a Paleo based diet, Then you will never have any disease during your life time.
Antoine Bechamp discovered 200 years ago that germs are the result of a disease and are not the cause of a disease. The bacteria in the gut can leak into the blood stream by a problem called leaky gut syndrome which is caused by an inappropriate diet. This is the cause of disease. Thus, There is only one disease which is vitamin deficiency disease.
Evan_Hermes

Con

There is actually such thing as a virus, And it is made up of a core of genetic material, Either DNA or RNA, Surrounded by a protective coat called a capsid which is made up of protein. Sometimes the capsid is surrounded by an additional spikey coat called the envelope. Viruses are capable of latching onto host cells and getting inside them.

You said that you will never get influenza if you eat the right diet, Which makes no sense because the flu is contagious. If you would like to explain it to make things clear, Please go ahead.

"If you eat the right foods which is a paleo based diet, Then you will never get a disease in your lifetime. "
This isn't true. Sure, It might prevent you from getting certain diseases like heart disease, But what about contagious diseases? What about genetic diseases? What about infectious diseases? It can't stop you from getting STD's, Colds (which enters the body through the mouth), Etc. Also, You said ANY disease, Which completely contradicts your claim in the first place.

If you can support your claim that there is no such thing as a virus, I will take it seriously. Right now, I can't, Because I have no evidence that it's true.

You said the only disease was vitamin deficiency disease, But how can you say that when there are several types of that disease itself? Vitamin D deficiency, Vitamin B12 deficiency, And Folate deficiency are just a few examples.

About Antoine Bechamp. His theory was just that, A theory. In reality infection/diseases occur when bacteria, Viruses or other microbes that cause disease enter your body and begin to multiply. Disease occurs when the cells in your body are damaged
Debate Round No. 2
Akhenaten

Pro

A virus is an illogical entity. You can't be dead one minute and alive the next. It just doesn't make any sense. How do viruses organise themselves to attack humans when they have no legs, Brains, Eyes or senses of any description. Thus, The logic of viral attacks on humans is not logical process and hasn't been thought through sufficiently. Whereas, Vitamin deficiency is logical and has a much simpler explanation with all the evidence to prove it. You can test the theory yourself by going on a Paleo diet and you will notice that your nose will immediately become clear and unblocked. Humans are generally allergic to grass and grass related products. Thus, Grain, Sugar, Dairy and alcohol are all produced from grass seeds and grass.

Note - How did the first person discover the first virus without and reference photo of what one looks like? Again, This proves that viruses couldn't be found even if they did exist. Having worked in an electron microscope lab I know that an electron microscope wouldn't be able to locate something as small as a virus. The electron microscope has its limitations. You can only scan the surface of known objects in known locations using an electron microscope. If you see any photos of viruses they are usually digital creations of what they think a virus looks like. Sometimes they photo thyroid gland tissue and try to pass off thyroid hormones as viruses. I am not fooled.

Viruses were 'discovered' (invented) as a means of filling in the gap when it was discovered that bacteria are harmless to humans so they had to find something else to justify making money out of people using drugs and vaccines. Note - When money and profit are involved, Logic and commonsense are thrown out the window.

Old saying - You can sell cure by the pound and prevention only by the ounce. Thus, Antoine Bechamp's theory was abandoned in favour of Luis Pasteur's germ theory. Note - Luis Pasteur married the rector's daughter, Thus he had authority over Antoine Bechamp.

Interview with Stephan Lanka Virologist. If the link doesn't work then search for - Interview with virologist - Viruses don't exist

https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=NU9f3Vc67oE

Quote - "Vitamin deficiency has many types"

Reply - You can sub-divide anything from its original context. Vitamin deficiency is a general concept which covers all vitamin deficiencies. Including all 13 vitamins A, B x 8, C, D, E and K.

Modern technology, Dietary science and commonsense has confirmed that Antoine Bechamp was right and that Luis Pasteur was wrong. Studies of Crohn's disease and leaky gut syndrome confirm the real cause of disease is an interior problem and not caused by germs invading from exterior sources.

https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=T6RdJYYb6iU
Evan_Hermes

Con

Evan_Hermes forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
Evan_Hermes

Con

Evan_Hermes forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Evan_Hermes

Con

Easy win? Really? There are more than 80 different types of diseases according the the CDC, Benaroya Research Institute, Etc. If there is only one disease, Why are symptoms different for every disease? Why is the fatality rate different? Why do different diseases affect people differently? Why is an HIV virus cell different from a cancer cell?
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Akhenaten 3 years ago
Akhenaten
Only a coward would reply in the last post and ignore the middle posts.
Posted by Evan_Hermes 3 years ago
Evan_Hermes
i said there were 80 types of diseases, I meant only autoimmune diseases
Posted by Akhenaten 3 years ago
Akhenaten
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