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Things that Donald Trump (the worst president of all time) and god (both are unclean) have in common

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Started: 1/11/2019 Category: Science
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backwardseden

Pro

Things that Donald Trump and god (both are completely immoral misfire grunts) have in common. . .

It is clear that Donald Trump is the worst president of all time. Duh. And the printed god of the bible being a problematic crybaby limp gimp with leprosy, Well the both of them they have a lot of things in common. . .

* Both Trump and god do not believe in god
* Both Trump and god are compulsive liars.
* Both Trump and god use power and then fear to control.
* Both Trump and god use religion as a premise to gain that power.
* Both Trump and god pray to themselves and ask for forgiveness for how ignorant and stupid they are.
* Both Trump and god spew out supermassive hypocritical contradictions.
* Both Trump and god replace a golf ball with their heads. A hole in one.
* Both Trump and god love war.
* Both Trump and god build walls around themselves into fallout attempts to keep their insecurities from flapjacking the boomerang effect and hitting them square in the hiney.
* Both Trump and god are useless giving the barking orders tin can toy soldiers
* Both Trump and god are super idiots of pro guns and weapons of mass destruction.
* Both Trump and god do not believe in peace and harmony unless it is under their guidance and rules of thumb only and screw everybody else.
* Both Trump and god have these babbling mouths that never shuts up.
* Both Trump and god do not know how to plant dirt.
* Both Trump and god believe in murder.
* Both Trump and god whore themselves out to themselves.
* Both Trump and god do not have the nerve to arrest themselves for their own idiocies and place themselves in prison.
* Both Trump and god have super elastic band stretched out undie superior ego god complexes.
* Both Trump and god sin against themselves while watching Jane Fonda workouts.
* Both Trump and god don"t give a damn who they squash to get what they want.
* Both Trump and god don"t care about what is right as long as they win.
* Both Trump and god run around in the el buffo like chickens with their heads cut off
* Both Trump and god are the equivalent of three blind mousies after cheeze-whiz
* Both Trump and god you know they are hiding something to achieve what they want (a sheep in wolf"s clothing)
* Both Trump and god are prime Jack in the Boxes - "pop goes the weasel"
* Both Trump and god don"t give a damn about the poorest of the poor.
* Both Trump and god make god damned sure that the rich stay rich
* Both Trump and god are fake within their own personalities.
* Both Trump and god fully understand that it is best to have a rodeo on a cruise ship. All of the animals will get sea-sick, Thus stampede and the ship will sink, And when they sink along with it, They can thus get a topside view.
* Both Trump and god have no idea as to how to say "I"m wrong. "
* Both Trump and god have no idea as to how to say "I don"t know" when a problem arises.
* Both Trump and god only know how to say "I"m always right. "
* Both Trump and god only know how to say "Believe in me or else""
* Both Trump and god only know how to act impulsively.
* Both Trump and god react without thinking, Reasoning, Rationalizing, Using common sense, Using logic.
* Both Trump and god have their way with women.
* Both Trump and god never have nightmares and have big fluffy pillows to go nighty night on.
* Both Trump and god dream about themselves.
* Both Trump and god are chief complainers. They complain about everything except themselves.
* Both Trump and god are crybaby whiners and cannot do without their rattles.
* Both Trump and god have no idea, None, As to what true suffering, Pain and horror truly is.
* Both Trump and god have no idea, None as to how to take care of children - the spoiled brats that they raised is not taking care of them.
* Both Trump and god are cabbage batbrains.
* Both Trump and god have very big wet whirly-bird heads and should be whacked so they can see some stars
* Both Trump and god are black holes where no light escapes - or common sense
* Both Trump and god know how to expertly evade
* Both Trump and god know how to expertly deny
* Both Trump and god are green eggs and glam

It is obvious that nobody can prove that god even exists or that he isn"t even Trump even though Trump thinks so. Too bad for a gamma ray slobbering yoga bench with spilled pillow fluff that this "Mr. President", Is a good thing? I mean who can wrap their hearing aids around that with hardened pancake batter?

Sure my tinkertoy brain has missed a lot of things that Trump and god have in common in this round. You can bet they will be introduced in later rounds.

RULES:
Well garsh, Prove that both Trump and god are not thumbtacks to be stepped on.

Voting is useless *yawn* for this debate and will not be accepted because Trump and god are both null and void like furry tongues in rush hour.
K_Michael_Tolman

Con

First of all, Literally none of your statements are supported by facts that you have shown. This is a dumb way to start a debate, Because it makes you look like a complainer, And a prejudiced, Illogical one at that. I admit that some of your comparisons have merit.
Let's Begin.
First one I disagree with (and I'll be going out of order, Just hitting the ones that catch my eye)
"Both Trump and god don"t care about what is right as long as they win. "
Since you have already acknowledged the existence of the God that Christians worship (recap, He's omnipotent, Omniscient, And omnipresent), And you have also acknowledged the occurrence of events as recorded in the Holy Bible, (when you said that God did in fact "pray to [Himself]"). Under these assumptions, That are YOURS, Not mine, We can deduce the following.
The God of the Christians, In the already established as proper evidence for this debate, Created the ENTIRE UNIVERSE. He created the laws and morals of men with the Forbidden Fruit. He defined what is right and what is wrong. Therefore, It makes no sense that " god don"t care about what is right as long as they win" He can do no wrong, Being the creator of right and wrong. That would be like telling the inventor of a game that he was cheating.
Next:
" god do not believe in peace and harmony unless it is under their guidance and rules of thumb"
God, As previously established, Controls everything. No matter what, You ARE under his "guidance and rules of thumb". There is no escaping that. So there can LITERALLY be no peace and harmony without him, Because we don't know what an existence without God is like, Or if it's possible. You can not prove that peace can exist without Him, Which means that you can't prove that He's wrong to believe that.
Next:
" god have no idea, None, As to what true suffering, Pain and horror truly is. "
According to the events of the Bible, Which we have established as historical evidence in this debate, Christ the Lord suffered for the sins of the world, Feeling the pain of all men (as a race, Not a gender). He bled from every pore, Then was nailed to a cross and hung there until death. If anyone has an inkling of what true suffering is, It's him. As for Trump, I doubt you have any idea what true suffering is either. I know I don't.

I'll let you try to add some logic and facts to your argument. I'm done for now.
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Pro

Wow, You"ve got to be as absolutely as dumb as they come. Corn fed, Burping from the cannibalistic truly chauvinistic class structure without a pile of seed in his brain to plant any common thought for actual growth.
A complainer? Hmmm. Wow sir unintelligentius, I guess that makes you immoral.
Oh and oh yeah, You haven"t read through the long list (with plenty more to come I can assure you) of things that god and Trump have in common. Oh and btw, I did say, "the god of the bible" so that makes you prejudiced for you to choose in only this supposed god for in which you, Nor anybody has any proof of its existence.

Let's Begin.
"Both Trump and god don"t care about what is right as long as they win. " Well that happens to be 100% true. Trump is all about winning and will not become involved with anything unless he knows he can win. Your god of the bible has committed genocide after horrific genocide, So don"t talk to me or anyone about "winning".
"Since you have already acknowledged the existence of the God that Christians worship" in which I have never, Nor will I ever do because I"m not THAT stupid or ignorant, Sorry sonny in a rectal itch showering cap "(recap, He's omnipotent, Omniscient, And omnipresent), " that"s a good one, Tee hee with your yodeling grunge country opera laughing box tucked away at your beddy bye side, And of course yah can"t prove it. Yer dog whistle is better proof of fleas. "And you have also acknowledged the occurrence of events as recorded in the Holy Bible, " that"s according to the bible but that doesn"t mean they are true. Got it hot stuff? "(when you said that God did in fact "pray to [Himself]"). " Yeah in your bible he does. "We can deduce the following. " Whoa their burnt rubber on his you know where areas, Who is this "we", Um no its you, Only you, Just you and the savage night.
"The God of the Christians, In the already established as proper evidence for this debate, Created the ENTIRE UNIVERSE. " Sorry dildo breath humping on his uterus pillows, Not only can you not prove YOUR god even exists, But YOU cannot prove that there is only ONE creator as in genesis 1:26 there is mentioned "us" and "our" thus stating there is more than your ONE god in which again, You cannot prove either exists. OK now we"re getting into nonsense so it shall be ignored. *yawn* boring.
OK since you think your god is moral, Let"s give you a morality test and see how moral you are. If you answer "yes" to any of these questions, It means that you are as immoral as your god and you need not respond further to this debate. All 6 questions require a "no" answer. Ready 15 year old still stuck in high school with a blantantly obvious high school edumacation?
According to your god you should be put to death if you blaspheme. Do you think that's a good idea? Y____? N____? Leviticus 24:16, According to your god you should be put to death if you work on the sabbath. Do you think that's a good idea? Y____? N____? Exodus 31:14, And Numbers 15: 32-36, According to your god you should be put to death if you curse at your parents. Do you think that's a good idea? Y____? N____? Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9, Mark 7:10, Matthew 15:4, According to your god you should be put to death if you commit adultery. Do you think that's a good idea? Y____? N____? Leviticus 20:10. That's directly from your 10 commandments. Here are some other things that YOUR god thinks you should be put to death for. . . According to your god you should be put to death if you are a homosexual? Do you think that's a good idea? Y___? N____? Leviticus 20:13, According to your god you should be put to death if you do not worship him. Do you think that's a good idea? Y____? N____? Deuteronomy 13: 9-10 and Deuteronomy 17: 2-5.

That"s Both Trump and " god do not believe in peace and harmony unless it is under their guidance and rules of thumb"
God, As previously established, Controls everything. No matter what, You ARE under his "guidance and rules of thumb". There is no escaping that. " So then according to you, And only you, And I"ve been doing this for 43+ years, Almost 44, A good 3x your pathetic teeny booper child age, And you are a child, According to you, You have absolutely no free will. None. That"s according to you and only you. EVERY OTHER so-called christian I"ve ever known believes that their unproven god grants man free will. Well congrants on that! You pass! Because nowhere in your horrific bible does it state that your god grants man free will. There"s not anything like it. So you are essentially a mindless robot of your unproven god. "So there can LITERALLY be no peace and harmony without him, " Well there"s NEVER, Not for any length of time, Not anywhere on earth, Not at any time since your god"s inception been peace of any kind, Not for even a stinking 30 years just as your god wants it because he like Trump is completely immoral and doesn"t give a damn about peace, Harmony, Love, Care, Kindness etc etc etc, But only cares about in your god"s words evil, Anger, Wrath, Vengeance, Rage, Fury, Jealousy. Human baggage emotions. Imperfections. Immorality. You idiot so-called christians don"t get that your god could have started out with peace, Harmony, Love, Care, Kindness AND KEPT IT! Nah. You unproven god is only interested in the hateful emotions. Even better, According to you, This god of yours neatly passed down those hateful emotions so in turn at least 1 billion die on the battlefields alone all in the supposed "good" name of your god. So don"t talk to me about you or your god in any possible way being moral.
Again Both Trump and " god have no idea, None, As to what true suffering, Pain and horror truly is. " 100% true. "According to the events of the Bible, Which we" woah there choking fiberglass turtleneck, Its still only you with a "duh" sign nailed to to your forehead, "have established as historical evidence in this debate, Christ the Lord suffered for the sins of the world, " WRONG! There"s no proof christ ever existed. 2. If so he was a false prophet. 3. Clearly did not have any powers. 4. Did not suffer at all. 5. Suffering teaches nobody one god damned thing, Especially children like you. What can children possibly learn from suffering and horrific pain especially of they go through it day after day after day sometimes for decades? If you"ve answered "nothing", You"ve answered correctly. 6. Your bible and its christ in it teaches the beginning of suffering. Buddhism teaches the end of suffering. Golly gosh, I just cannot imagine with a slap to your groin which is better? You really are an idiot because you justify suffering in which case there"s no justification for it. None. Its impossible for you so-called christians to live in a world of peace. Its not for Buddhists, Hindu's, Those who know Gaia mother Earth, The aborigines, The Inca, Nearly all native America Indian tribes before your sweaty greasy white man christian brethren wiped them out etc etc etc.

* Both Trump and god communicate in text by typing everything in a typewriter using their index fingers only, With text the worst form of communication possible. WHAT IS WRONG WITH TALKING TO---all of---MAN AND SAYING drum roll please. . . HELLO?
* Both Trump and god have huge mental bi-polar disorders
* Both Trump and god are against finding alien life elsewhere on planet earth
* Both Trump and god believe in slavery as they handcuff themselves to their beds in their drawers with their slurpees and straws so they can listen to Sister Irene O"Connor 24/7.
* Both Trump and god blame the other fall guy for their faults
* Both Trump and god are roach meat hotels
* Both Trump and god hate politics.
* Both Trump and god are terrorists.
* Both Trump and god are self imposed narcissists.
* Both Trump and god are will do anything to make sure that they always come out ahead and through the backside no matter what
* Both Trump and god have no idea what empathy is
* Both Trump and god are black holes where no light escapes - or common sense
* Both Trump and god are Lego"s trying to build their first housey with two-things but keep getting cut off at corner blocks and fire hydrants
* Both Trump and god run for the nearest fire exit at the first sign of a baby being tickled
* Both Trump and god are not on good speaking terms with themselves
* Both Trump and god graze on the pastures of cows that are from their you know where areas.
* Both Trump and god get jealous of themselves when they watch toothpaste cartoon versions of themselves on the idiot box
* Both Trump and god are tweedle dee and tweedle duh
* Both Trump and god police their doll houses - especially that of Ken and Barbie when they are holding hands to make sure that no lewd sexual acts take place.
* Both Trump and god"s rooster crow is their wheezing from their BARKING
* Both Trump and god do not believe that worldwide peace and harmony can be achieved.
* Both Trump and god carry around with them a battery powered easy bake oven so they can bake and fry water
* Both Trump and god wet their beds during their debates
* Both Trump and god use rainbows so they can jump rope over crashed banks.
* Both Trump and god believe in Santa Claws especially to ride Dolf the the Red Runny Nose Rain-Dear so they can honk his horn.
* Both Trump and god are gumballs. They blow bubbles from their gaseous pants.
* Both Trump and god are ashamed that they have big bad meanie jelly beanie hot dogs
* Both Trump and god have many 900#"s psychic hotline"s from slave labor hairdressers set up in their name so they can better tell what their futures will be
* Both Trump and god are cracked hard boiled egg Humpty Dumpty"s.
* Both Trump and god are blow-up dolls of themselves splattered on flypaper
* Both Trump and god have little smiley faces hand painted on rolls of t. P. So when they wipe their reareth endeth holiesseths, They know they are not using sandpaper.
K_Michael_Tolman

Con

I don't appreciate your ad hominem attacks on my character. This is a basic logical fallacy, And would lose you serious points in a real debate competition.

And, Yes, You did acknowledge the the God from the Bible, By even criticizing him in the way that you did, You spoke as if he was a real entity. My arguments are still valid, And if you change your stated belief, It is only avoiding the arguments I made.
I did read your list of comparisons, But several were immediately discounted because they could not be logically supported. For instance, "Both Trump and god are cabbage batbrains. " These (admittedly creative) insulting names don't actually mean anything, And can't be supported or disproven.
I didn't address every single point, Just a few that stood out to me, As I said before.
Your insulting of both Trump and God in this unprofessional way is too ambiguous to even argue against. If you could give an example of both Trump and God being a "cabbage batbrain, " that would make it possible to defend or defeat for the two of us. Just because I can't disprove that statement doesn't mean you win.

As for all of the scriptures you cited, The Law of Moses was fulfilled in Christ. None of those laws actually apply to the Christian Church. Your human morality test doesn't apply to God anyway. The Native Americans used to kill people if they stole from them, And we consider that to be immoral, But the Natives saw the whites' expansion into the West as a sacrilegious (aka, Immoral) act against their lands, People and culture. So even within our species, What exactly is morality is still up for debate. And God from the Bible isn't even human. He almost certainly has a different understanding of life, And therefore, A different set of morals. It would be as unfair to judge him by your own set of morals as for an alien species to judge you for not murdering your spouse after your offspring are born.
Debate Round No. 2
backwardseden

Pro

"I don't appreciate your ad hominem attacks on my character. " Tough. I have an extreme distaste for those who do not have an education or intelligence on the subject(s) that they profess to having knowledge upon and they really don't, And yet they pretend that they do. And because they don't they invent excuses for that specific subject and or flat out lie. When this happens, Which happens quite often, They will soon have no genuine friends or loved ones if it keeps up (hey they may not now) and their teachers will ALWAYS mark that paper with an F. And it is my right to degrade, Dehumanize and belittle them or walk away in which I sometimes do with my brand of sarcastic, Dumb, Idiotic, Original, Gone from this universe, Blah blah black sheep have you any fool insults. This is something that is taught in college. I'm not here to please you or make friends with you. And if you don't like it, Leave.

"This is a basic logical fallacy, " and you lost by quite a large margin IF your teeny bopper brain were to even have taken a look at look at most of the Things that Donald Trump (the worst president of all time) and god (both are unclean) have in common in which you clearly didn't do to find out that they have one thing in common on which a half a pea of a yodeling Buddhist monk could figure out. Nah. Not you tiger.

"And would lose you serious points in a real debate competition. " Actually I wouldn't. Here on DDO nearly everybody is tame as compared to live debates, And nearly 85% tame in comparison to Trump sand 100% tame in comparison to your god of the bible.

"And, Yes, You did acknowledge the the God from the Bible, " Actually no dimwitted dullard snot meat sow I acknowledged YOUR god of the bible, Which does not make me believe in it, And even by doing so this by no means makes this god real. Got it? YOU still, And so does everybody else, Have to prove this god exists. See, You think like a 15 year old. I think like a 57 year old, Experienced, Well studied, Well researched, Knowledgable, Unlike you on this subject of YOUR god, Bible and religion in which I will always know a lot more about than you ---ever--- will.

"By even criticizing him in the way that you did, You spoke as if he was a real entity. " WRONG.

"My arguments are still valid, " OK I'm done. I'm not going to bother arguing with a teeny bopper who doesn't know s--t about, Well not even his own hairlines.
K_Michael_Tolman

Con

Done, Are you?

Not hardly.

I will, This once, Attack someone with ad hominem. Let's begin, Shall we?

Both YOU and Trump "do not believe in God. "
Both YOU and Trump insult their opponents when they can't win.
Both YOU and Trump are violent people. If we were in the same room having this conversation, I would have hit you by now. Trump also provokes violence.
Both YOU and Trump " spew out supermassive hypocritical contradictions. "
Both YOU and Trump "have these babbling mouths that never shuts up. "
Both YOU and Trump "don"t care about what is right as long as they win. " You break the rules of honest debate to attack me.
Both YOU and Trump "don"t give a damn about the poorest of the poor. " If I am some poor high schooler, Thrust into the world of online debate, Then you should be helping me grow, Help me become one of the few people of worth on this site, As you clearly disdain them all.
Both YOU and Trump "react without thinking, Reasoning, Rationalizing, Using common sense, Using logic. "
Both YOU and Trump "have no idea, None, As to what true suffering, Pain and horror truly is. " Never have you ever suffered yourself.
Both YOU and Trump deny the facts
Both YOU and Trump don't know their opponents, And should not be so quick to judge,

This is what it has come to. And there is no round for your next illogical remark.

Goodbye, Backwardseden.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by K_Michael_Tolman 1 week ago
K_Michael_Tolman
backwardseden, If what Vorador said is true, Then I apologize on that account.

No, I'm not very knowledgeable in the Bible, But every time I actually said something about it, It was something that my church believes to be true about them. Please don't criticize me for my faith or my relative lack of knowledge to you.
I probably wasn't the best one to take up this challenge, But when you believe in God, And someone compares them to a flawed person (and I mean VERY flawed) like Trump. It's hard not to respond.
Posted by Vorador 1 week ago
Vorador
K_Michael_Tolman In your list of insults, I did notice one that actually isn't true. Backwardseden actually has known real suffering. 63 people in his life have died, And he lives with daily pain.
Posted by backwardseden 1 week ago
backwardseden
@K_Michael_Tolman - Since you think you know your bible so well, And you don't, In fact you know nothing about it, At all, You can certainly watch the same video that I promoted to her TheBoldDebator who is an exquisitely nice person. I'm not, Not when it comes to utter lack of education and intelligence on a subject in which you proclaim to having knowledge upon and you really don't and yet you pretend you do and because you don't you have to invent excuses for it, Especially to those that know better. Believe me buster, I do know a lot better.
So here's the video to 100% prove you wrong + a couple on your christ to also prove you wrong.
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=FJiNtQW3vHs - Talk Heathen Determine if a Holy Book Is Reliable

Jesus
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=6lqC8fvIspY - jesus wasn"t jesus (Aron Ra)
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=KXAGpCTiGlQ - The True Core of the jesus Myth (Christopher Hitchens)
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=9AzwJ9d4i1g - Why christianity is Unreasonable (Richard Carrier)
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=x-slAgzJmdU - Why Does Every Intelligent christian disobey jesus?
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=AJMd5UiTeys - Biggest Lie - The fourth gospel ("The first striking revision in the 4th gospel is that the ministry of jesus has ballooned out from from one year to three. The writers not only make a reference not only from one but to three distinct passover festivals. Now was this just a tradition that some early christians held to a three year ministry and others to a one year ministry? Can anyone honestly maintain that whole dialogues could be remembered word for word for many decades and yet believers have no common agreement whether these words were said during one year or during three years? ") Um duh. Do you REALLY THINK jesus existed?
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=lDpEeHD54Mo&t=1397s - The Gospel According to Carrier (Richard Carrier states jesus may have possibly existed, But scrap all the mythology)
Posted by backwardseden 1 week ago
backwardseden
@TheBoldDebator - Sorry for being my usual tactless self. Been in extraordinary, As always, Pain. But that's not an excuse. Sorry. But I mean come on here over half of these are very satirical and in no possible way can be taken seriously by anyone. A prime example:
* Both Trump and god fully understand that it is best to have a rodeo on a cruise ship. All of the animals will get sea-sick, Thus stampede and the ship will sink, And when they sink along with it, They can thus get a topside view.

Now if you want to study your bible and iinany way see if its remotely reliable, Here's just one unflinching video for you.
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=FJiNtQW3vHs - Determine if a Holy Book Is Reliable

please tc and have fun
Posted by K_Michael_Tolman 1 week ago
K_Michael_Tolman
And now you're attacking @TheBoldDebator for defending me.
Posted by backwardseden 1 week ago
backwardseden
Oh you mean the knowledge that you and he don't have?
Posted by TheBoldDebator 1 week ago
TheBoldDebator
You're criticizing your opponent's knowledge backwardseden.
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