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This house would offer dictators immunity in return for leaving power

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Started: 1/10/2019 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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20ms123

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I believe greatly in utilitarianism (good for the greatest number of people) so this surely is a solution to a problem faced by few countries.
bhaiya_jii

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Who is a dictator? One who overrule override all set norms of governance and rule only for himself, Who believes that no one can harm him, Ever hitler, Stalin, Qaddafi and many more in the list. They have been oppressor, Murderer, Torturer and rampant violators of human rights. House is willing to give them immunity, For the sake of utilitarianism, For the idea of greatest happiness of greatest number. But isn't this what dictators believe. They are not ruling a country because they fear that if they leave it, They will be penalized, They are rather ruling because they feel that they are immune from any punishment. The very idea of vetting it will further strengthen their belief and nothing else. Just for argument sake even if we believe that they will leave power for immunity, But where is the assurance that they will not linger for it again. We have examples around the world, Where dictators have re established their rule post overthrow. How big a travesty will be to the sufferers whose rights and life have been exploited by these dictators for power and pleasure. How will we justify it to them.
As J S Mill says, Happiness matter more than pleasure and utilitarianism has to be seen in its widest sense where each human life and the pain must be considered. The argument of the house is without substance, Without logical and ill conceived innocent solution for the brutal criminals of the world
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Posted by ladiesman 3 years ago
ladiesman
The House of Representatives should offer dictators immunity from prosecution in exchange for stepping down? For a politician to be a dictator they have committed brutalities against the citizens of their country, And possibly other nations as well. Offering them immunity in exchange for leaving power is a slap on the wrist. The proper sanction for genocidal despots such as Hitler and Pol Pot is death. Everyone must be held accountable for their actions, Politicians included. 20ms123, You say you believe in utilitarianism, So by that standard punishing dictators to the fullest extent of the law would bring the greatest amount of happiness to the greatest number of people.
Posted by Thoht 3 years ago
Thoht
The claim is vague.

This house meaning what, You? The House of Representatives?

Should edit the claim and say "Dictators should be allowed a chance to step down and be given immunity+protection if they do so" Or something along those lines.
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