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Lookingatissues
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Moelogy
Con (against)

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/30/2017 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
Viewed: 1,145 times Debate No: 103328
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Lookingatissues

Pro

Abraham Lincoln once said this about welfare given to those who were willing to live off the labors of others , " In all ages of the world, some have labored, and others have, without labor, enjoyed a large portion of the fruits. This is wrong, and should not continue." But continue, it has up to the present day. Aliens who manage to make it across America's borders are then free to reap the harvest of all that the welfare system provides without any efforts on their part to exert themselves to furnish their own needs. Come one, come all, American workers who work for a living each and every day to support themselves and their families don't take offence at aliens taking the money that they work for and having the government take a chunk out of their wages to furnish, gratic, to you for your families maintance. And what were some of the costs of aliens extracted from working American citizens '.....82,679,000 of the welfare-takers lived in households where people were on Medicaid, said the Census Bureau. 51,471,000 were in households on food stamps. 22,526,000 were in the Women, Infants and Children program. 20,355,000 were in household on Supplemental Security Income. 13,267,000 lived in public housing or got housing subsidies. 5,442,000 got Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. 4,517,000 received other forms of federal cash assistance...."
Quoted figures from CNSNEWS.com
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"Welfare "
" Given that illegals tend to earn less money and live in poverty, they are also prone to use welfare. In Texas, for instance, 58 percent of illegal households collect some form of welfare, CIS reported, with 49 percent using food assistance and 41 percent using Medicaid. In California and Illinois, 55 percent use welfare. " And what were the costs to working Americans to educate these aliens
" CIS reported. Taxpayers provide some $40 billion to educate illegals and their offspring. "
Quotes from NEWAMERICA
Written by R. Cort Kirkwood
Thomas Sowell wrote in his book," AMERICAN EDUCATION" that one state, Oakland California, found that it was spending $ 7 million dollars annually to provide native-language instruction..."
"Cicero knew of what he spoke."
"We keep them in precarious balance only with our gold." J Carlton, Calgary wrote "Today's version: We keep them in precarious balance with Obamaphones, food stamps, "free" medicare, monthly welfare checks, public education...and on and on. The beginning of the end. Resolved: Aliens coming across America's borders illegally shouldn't be allowed to stay in this country and they shouldn't have access to any welfare benefits from state or federal agencies. Only those aliens who can prove that they will not have to receive Welfare in any form will be allowed to remain in this country and then only after entering this country through the legal channels provided for immigrants who wish to live in this country.
Debate Round No. 1
Lookingatissues

Pro

lookingattheissues response to CON , I'm waiting for con 's argument for Immigration , I'm saying that Immigration should be limited to those aliens that can prove they will be an asset to America, not just an addition to those living off of welfare.
Moelogy

Con

America was based upon immigration (immigrants from the UK and all over the world). That link is symbolic because you think your race is superior and should not interact nor mix with the other inferior races, you racist pig.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Swagnarok 3 years ago
Swagnarok
To be fair, I suspect Abraham Lincoln was referring to the institution of slavery, in which a few wealthy slaveholders lived lives of ease on the backs of slave laborers.
Posted by blamonkey 3 years ago
blamonkey
I understand, but the topic is not well established, I would recommend editing the debate to present the debate in a resolution format if you want to debate it. I might take it because nothing is really going on with the debate I have now, but just specify what you want to debate as far as immigration is concerned. If you want you could open a debate along the lines of "Resolved: The US should not allow immigration" or something like that. That way, you could debate the merits of immigration, and more people are likely to be interested. Just a thought.
Posted by Lookingatissues 3 years ago
Lookingatissues
Posted by blamonkey 3 hours ago

You asked," What exactly are you trying to debate"
The question I presented in a general way by presenting the costs of allowing aliens to cross our borders and their use of welfare is in reality penalizing hard working Americans by forcing them to pay those who contribute nothing in return. Aliens who enter this country, with no specific skills or lacking in education are of no benefit to this country with only one purpose, that they intend to reap all of the welfare and other benefits that aliens that have lived in America for a while have inform them of, come on other to America, the welfare benefits are awaiting once you made it across the border.
Posted by Lookingatissues 3 years ago
Lookingatissues
Posted by PowerPikachu21 2 hours ago

The Contender has the Burden of Proof. You must show that all this is true
I posited the facts as they were revealed, its up to the ones who challenge me to prove that I'm wrong.
Posted by PowerPikachu21 3 years ago
PowerPikachu21
The Contender has the Burden of Proof. You must show that all this is true.
Posted by blamonkey 3 years ago
blamonkey
What exactly are you trying to debate?
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