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FollowerofChrist1955
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Undeniable Evolutionary Evidence Proves Earth should be devoid of Life!

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Started: 6/3/2018 Category: Science
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FollowerofChrist1955

Pro

Scientific Evidence by all biologist in evolutionary science from Darwin to the Present Evolutionary Scientists of today CONSISTENTLY FAILED to produce a single Living Flora or Fauna, therefore demonstrating there is NO explanation for Life on Earth! Except ONE Created and Placed Life!
The entire basis of Lifes presence was predicated on a Creature having climbed from histories PRIMORDIAL OOZE to diversify into other species via "Common Desent".

Sciences failed to produce such a creature in Reality through Nature processes! This clearly indicates the Earth should be as BARREN as the Moon is today!
IMPICATION: Living oxygen producing and using LIFE cannot exist ... unless Created and Placed upon Earth delibrately.
Rationale: Flora and Fauna cannot form on Earth naturally.
Scientific experimentation by the following Scientist prove life impossible by thier inability to produce a single example. Not ONE from Darwin to the Present! Not a single speciemen of flora, Nor Fauna ever!
1859 – Charles Darwin publishes The Origin of Species showing that evolution occurs by natural selection. Any experiments which produced Living animals? NO

1861 – Louis Pasteur disproves the theory of spontaneous generation.he germ theory of disease is the currently accepted scientific theory of disease. It states that many diseases are caused by microorganisms. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1863 – Gregor Mendel's pea plant experiments (Mendel's laws of inheritance).Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1892 – Dmitri Ivanovsky discovers for the first time a virus. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO


1915 – J.B.S. Haldane demonstrated genetic linkage in mammals while subsequent works helped to create population genetics. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1928 – Griffith's experiment shows that living cells can be transformed via a transforming principle, later discovered to be DNA. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1928 – Alexander Fleming: Penicillin, the first beta-lactam antibiotic. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1943 – Oswald Avery proves that DNA is the genetic material of the chromosome. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1944 – Barbara McClintock breeds maize plants for color, which leads to the discovery of jumping genes. Any experiments which produced Living plants from nothing? NO

1950s, the Soviet biologist Georgy Shaposhnikov conducted experiments on aphids of the Dysaphis genus. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1951 – George Otto Gey propagates first cancer cell line, HeLa. Any experiments which produced Living plants from nothing? NO

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1952 – Alfred Hershey & Martha Chase: Hershey–Chase experiment proves that DNA is the hereditary material . Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1952 - Frederick Sanger: demonstrated that proteins are sequences of amino acids. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1953 – Stanley L. Miller & Harold C. Urey: Miller–Urey experiment demonstrates that organic compounds can arise spontaneously from inorganic ones. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1953 – Rosalind Franklin: helical structure of DNA, basis for molecular biology. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1958 – Meselson–Stahl experiment proves that DNA replication is semiconservative. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1960 – B. F. Skinner's demonstrations of operant conditioning. Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1964 – Theodosius Dobzhansky - Published major works of Modern evolutionary synthesis entitled genetivs and the Origin of the Species. But did not achieve experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? So NO


1965 – Leonard Hayflick: normal cells divide only a certain number of times: the Hayflick limit

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1971 – Place cells in the brain are discovered by John O'Keefe

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1971 Stuart Kauffman . He is best known for arguing that the complexity of biological systems and organisms might result as much from self-organization and far-from-equilibrium dynamics as from Darwinian natural selection as discussed in his book Origins of Order (1993). In 1967[1] and 1969

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1972 Stephen Jay Gould Gould's most significant contribution to evolutionary biology was the theory of punctuated equilibrium. The theory proposes that most evolution is characterized by long periods of evolutionary stability, which is infrequently punctuated by swift periods of branching speciation.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1976 Richard Dawkins In 1982, he introduced into evolutionary biology the influential concept that the phenotypic effects of a gene are not necessarily limited to an organism's body, but can stretch far into the environment, including the bodies of other organisms.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1977 - Frederick Sanger sequences the first DNA genome of an organism using Sanger sequencing

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1983 – Kary Mullis invents the polymerase chain reaction, a key discovery in molecular biology.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

Nancy A. Moran . Nancy Moran researches microbiota environments in insects.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1966 Richard Lewontin A leader in developing the mathematical basis of population genetics and evolutionary theory, he pioneered the application of techniques from molecular biology, such as gel electrophoresis, to questions of genetic variation and evolution.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1968 Geerat J. Vermeij An evolutionary biologist and paleontologist, he studies marine molluscs both as fossils and as living creatures.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1973 Eric Charnov His research interests are: metabolic ecology (temperature and body size in the determination of biological times and rates), evolutionary ecology (population genetics), evolutionary game theory, and optimization models to understand the evolution of life histories, sex allocation, sexual selection, and foraging decisions.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1978 Michael Ghiselin His historical publications have dealt mainly with Darwin and the history of comparative zoology.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1985 Peter R. Grant Class of 1877 Professor of Zoology Emeritus, Professor of EEB

Evolutionary biology Rapid hybrid speciation in Darwin’s finches, Watching speciation in action. Evolution, climate change, and extreme events. Synergism of natural selection and introgression in the origin of a new species.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

February 24, 1988, Lenski's E. coli experiment

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

1995 - Eric Cornell, Carl Wieman and Wolfgang Ketterle attained the first Bose-Einstein Condensate with atomic gases, so called fifth state of matter at an extremely low temperature

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing to creature? NO

1996 – Roslin Institute: Dolly the sheep was cloned.To produce Dolly, scientists used an pre-existent udder cell from a six-year-old Finn Dorset white sheep.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing to creature? NO

In 1998, Theodore Garland, Jr. and colleagues long-term experiment that involves selective breeding of mice

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

2001 – The first draft of the Human Genome Project is published.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

2005 Jared Diamond best known for his popular science books The Third Chimpanzee (1991); Guns, Germs, and Steel (1997, awarded a Pulitzer Prize); Collapse (2005); and The World Until Yesterday (2012). Originally trained in physiology,

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

2005 – Grid cells in the brain are discovered by Edvard Moser and May-Britt Moser.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

2006 - Shinya Yamanaka generates first induced pluripotent stem cells

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

2010 – [[J. Craigs the first synthetic genome for a bacterial cell.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

2010 - The Neanderthal Genome Project presented preliminary genetic evidence that interbreeding did likely take place and that a small but significant portion of Neanderthal admixture is present in modern non-African populations.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

2008 Margie Profet American evolutionary biologist with no formal biology training who created a decade-long controversy when she published her findings on the role of Darwinian evolution in menstruation,

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

2011 Marc Hauser American evolutionary biologist and a researcher in primate behavior, animal cognition and human behavior.

Any experiments which produced Living animals from nothing? NO

3dogsandaguy

Con

First off, we have actually made your "primordial ooze" as you call it, they are called ribonucleic acids aka RNA. While not living on their own, they are the basis for DNA and if left for long enough, the theory goes that eventually single-celled organisms are made, then diversify, so on and so forth until you reach the complex life seen today. Second, you can't create something from nothing, that is literally impossible. Third, your using a black-and-white fallacy, "you can't recreate life therefore Creationism". Finally, you are insane if you think that the first common ancestor was anything even close to an animal or plant from today. It was a single-celled organism that most likely fed off sea vents.
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Posted by zhaod1 3 years ago
zhaod1
Evolution and abiogenesis could just be processes utilized by God in order to create life.
Posted by 3dogsandaguy 3 years ago
3dogsandaguy
Yea, i think im a little burnt out. Im just gonna stop for a while
Posted by Im_Intelligent 3 years ago
Im_Intelligent
The early earth had little to no oxygen in its atmosphere.
Posted by Im_Intelligent 3 years ago
Im_Intelligent
It was the complete opposite 3dogsandaguy -_-
Posted by 3dogsandaguy 3 years ago
3dogsandaguy
You know the Earth's atmosphere was actually MORE oxygenated at the start of life. Also, no one tell him the chemical formula for water
Posted by Im_Intelligent 3 years ago
Im_Intelligent
here we go again with the "didn't make a animal or plant from scratch" bullcrap.
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 3 years ago
FollowerofChrist1955
THE REAL pre-historic EARTH
https://www.pinterest.co.uk...

Yet Evolution attempts to BEGIN with Creature .... Question? IF creature forms and CANNOT BREATH, because there IS NO OXYGEN, because there IS no Foliage to produce it ... it DIES yes?

What Scientist produced SEED under evolutionary experimentation? ANSWER=0

think about it?
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 3 years ago
FollowerofChrist1955
imagine, grown adult people, So stricken with blindness, that they (without a shred of actual evidence).
Truly and genuinely lack even the slightest intellect to realize in REALITY .... that dust and rock, CANNOT PRODUCE trees, grass, plants, animals, birds, fish, whales, dogs, insects and Humans ... naturally.

What"s more that EVEN AFTER every known Scientist in the World was unable even cheating to create even 1 real example of LIVING plant, much less living tissue, from NOTHING to LIVING. The totality of Humanity minus Christians of course .... REMAIN in their stupor. Hehehe

How pathetic.
Posted by Im_Intelligent 3 years ago
Im_Intelligent
And i wouldn't bother asking followerofchrist1955 for a proof against evolution

You see, followerofchrist1955 fails miserably to understand evolutionary theory, and how all life we see today is the result of billions of years of building complexity from the simplest self replicating molecules.

As a sad consequence of his failure, he has this giant misconception that life as complex things like trees and lizards were created instantly from what he self proclaims the "primordial ooze"

And if that wasent bad enough, he asserts that his giant misconception is the TRUTH and that because we haven't made a lizard from chemicals in a lab, it thereby proves god made life, we have tried multiple times to explain to him this isn't how evolutionary theory works, but every single time we try to explain to him that it was a gradual progression of increasing complexity, he spams a list of experiments and states his misconception over and over again thinking hes making a point, this whole debate is basically a circular argument back to his misconception of evolutionary theory.

Instead of realizing he knows little to nothing about how evolution and natural selection and abiogenesis works and that he should do a bit more research, he prefers to say that the entire world is wrong except him and that no one wants to debate him because hes to smart for us.

dont waste your time with him
Posted by Im_Intelligent 3 years ago
Im_Intelligent
3dogsandaguy your description of evolution is flawed.

we never said life came from a rock, its actually the bible who says man was made from dirt.
second of all it takes WAY LONGER then a few thousand years to get something like a tree out of that.
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