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Uni Soviet is the real saver in World war 2

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Started: 1/24/2019 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Freezy

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The world war 2 was the biggest war for all human history. America came out as the biggest country and such a saviour for the countries that was colonialized by the bigger country. The biggest enemy was the German and Japan as the country that done colonialism with immoral action such as romusha in Indonesia and other Asian country. Asia was dominated by Japan and Europe was dominated by Nazi which is rapidly spread their ideology and their power in that area. The Nazi was the most Horrible nightmare for European and killed millions of living person. They might can take over all of the area if there's no country that can stop them. Soviet that was so much in anger with them (bcs the victims that died) defeat them back like an animal haunt their foods. The Nazi was defeated and hitler himself commited suicide with his wife. That was the end of German Nazi then the Japan stepped back also. So the real saviour in that war was Soviet.
neonoctopus

Con

No, The US was the real saver in world war 2 it is true that the soviet union helped us but for more than half the war they were fighting against us. All your facts are true except this paragraph

"Soviet that was so much in anger with them (bcs the victims that died) defeat them back like an animal haunt their foods. The Nazi was defeated and Hitler himself committed suicide with his wife. That was the end of German Nazi then Japan stepped back also. So the real savior in that war was Soviet. "

The soviet union actually could have been taken over by the Germans the only reason they didn't was that the winter set in and slowed their progression enough so the Soviets could gather forces and fight them back. So actually Soviet Russia did little more than helping the US. Also, The Germans really didn't kill many soviets that were captured
Debate Round No. 1
Freezy

Pro

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neonoctopus

Con

The us was the real savior vote me
Debate Round No. 2
Freezy

Pro

Several rebuttal coming towards you argument, First of all the data has shown the russian that died during the germans invasion hit a big number about 27 millions including armies and civilians. If you said that the data is not true at all, Then are we trying to deny such a really sad accident and feeling like their death didn't exist. That's shameful.

If you said that the uni soviet were against us, Then maybe america wouldn't have intentions to be being in a group with them, Or the intentions maybe occur because the advantageous stuff that maybe coming toward the russian (uni soviet) revenge? . These unquestionable thoughts is something we have to make clear, Right.
America attacked japan because they were attack the pearl harbour, And so the uni soviet attack germany because they attack russia. So the same actions were done because the Axis team were attacked first. Then the america hit the hiroshima and nagasaki with atomic bomb and Uni Soviet attack germany with their armies. The most immoral actions in WWII was done by the nazi in the holocaust practic, The thing that we need here was the true action to stop the German actions to the jews, Which is cannot help by the united nations that act as the highest court in the world. Medical experiment that absolutely sadful and dehumanize jews and keep torture them by burning, Gas chamber, And so on. If you said that the uni soviet were lucky because the climate stuff and so on, Then if the soviet were america then you might say they were lucky too right? . At the end of the day it is not because the soviet were lucky or not but because how they fight back and do the revenge due to the victims of their society. And indirectly it impacted to all European society which is dominated by Nazi. They save the country that being invated by Nazi. Actually, America and uni soviet has done the same thing, But the thing we wanted to see here is who the real saver and who should be prioritize as the country that dominate to save the society and I believe it's the uni soviet.
Some case that i' ve seen, Think and read this far is the fact that america was ever colonialize the asian country such as phillipine, And in the phillipine's war to the US it also hit a big number of victims. The thing I wanted to say here is, How could you say that america was the hero of those countries while in the other side they also colonialized them. I think there are people that not thankful to the US actions to fight Japan and make them stepped back because the US action to their country before. It was Nazi that could take over the world if there no one that can stop them, The nazi move so fast and spread their ideology rapidly. Make them give up was almost impossible and then there was uni soviet.

The stigma in the society become so much develop and think that the uni soviet was a bad country due to their communis ideology, It is about who spread their ideology faster and they'll dominate in the world and The US was won about that. Uni Soviet came up as a country that will never get admit as the country who save the ww2 and even if the history put them as the one who forced nazi to sign the pacta it is just it, No one would "praise" them because their action as the people who glorify the US
neonoctopus

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
Freezy

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neonoctopus

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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
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The U. S saved the soviets
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