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backwardseden
Con (against)
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THESMEXYASIAN
Pro (for)

Why would any idiot god of the bible rely on text or faith to prove its existence?

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Started: 10/9/2019 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 week ago Status: Debating Period
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backwardseden

Con

It wouldn't. No stupid idiot god would ever rely on or faith and or text, Namely the bible to prove its existence instead of evidence.

Prove the god of the bible exists.

Test, Demonstrate and assert that the god of the bible exists.

Since the only communication that man has with this so-called unproven printed character god is the bible and no scientific information is offered within it to prove its god, No scientific terminologies/ information will be allowed within this debate.

Dsjpk5 is disqualified from the voting procedures as he tries to pretend he's god and thus change the voting structure of who wins and loses here on DDO.
THESMEXYASIAN

Pro

In my opinion, There is a god and I pray to god sometimes and I like to think that he listens back. However, You are correct in that I can not prove that he is real. There are multiple instances like this where you can not prove something is real however you know that it is true. You can take Aliens for example. There is no way to prove that they are real (yet) however you know that since space is infinite that there must be some other form of life in the infinite space. I think that the same applies to God. There may be no way to prove that he exists, However, It would seem like common sense to say that something must have created us. According to Space. Com: "At its simplest. . . The universe as we know it started with a small singularity, Then inflated over the next 13. 8 billion years to the cosmos that we know today. " Okay so it started with a single singularity but how was that singularity formed. It couldn't have been just there because something had to have created the things that make up that singularity. Something had to have led to the creation of that single singularity as it just being there makes no sense also. I like to think that it was God who created that singularity. Then it led to the creation of the earth and then the creation of man. I look forward to seeing your next argument.
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Con

Well which god? You do realize that there are over 33, 210 versions of christianity alone - correct? So there's no consensus. And you have not defined which god you ultimately believe in? So which god out of the multitudes of gods that have been written about throughout history in their pockets of religions do you believe in? Now here's a question for you. . . You said "In my opinion". Well wouldn't you rather have the evidence first before believing, Rather than having no evidence with only an opinion and thus believing? Especially if this god is based on terror, Genocides, And murders on babies, Children and pregnant mothers (yes horrifying to be sure) but that's what is written in the very bible itself if that's what you genuinely believe in? And then why only one god? Why not thousands, Millions, Billions, Quadrillions of gods? And then naturally since nobody has ever proven any god from any religion in the entire existence of the human race, Naturally the B. O. P. Would be for you to prove that any god exists. AND since this is true, Since you are making the claim, You would be required to test, Demonstrate that your god(s) exists. And then once that's done you would be required to assert that your god(s) exists. Then once that's done you would be required to submit your findings to at least 100 scientific communities from around the world that have nothing to do with theism (after all cannot be biased in any possible way - right? ) so that they will not laugh you right out of their buildings. You've got to be able to prove it. You can't say "I think". Who is going to pay any attention to that AND believe it with any type of conviction? Then if all of those steps have been exercised and conveyed, Then its possible through argumentative and rather a stale review that a god "might" possibly exist. Of course, That would only possibly be true if any god from any religion would demonstrate its existence and stop playing an idiotic game of hide-n-go-seek and thus turn believability into reality while still answering the question "why believe? " But of course, YOU'D have to follow the rules as set before you by the long since dead rulebooks, In which in no possible way can you that were written by idiots who sane people no longer pay little if any attention to and have moved on with their proper lives because no true god would ever be stupid enough, Not ever, Not for any reason to use text, Namely your bible, As a form of communication, The absolute worst form of communication TO A GOD for any religion when this god, If true, Can simply talk to all of man and let him know what is expected of him because a BOOK is NOT evidence, Nor is FAITH evidence. A true god would ultimately know this. This god if a true god would show up in person. Harmonious, Beautiful, Peaceful. No hate. No evil. There would be no suffering especially among children. Certainly not what the bible represents.
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Posted by backwardseden 4 days ago
backwardseden
Now isn't it strange, Gosh, Golly! That since your unproven god's inception, There's not been 50 years, Just 50 f--king years of peace, Not anywhere, Not at any time, Not within any governing religion of your unproven god. Pathetic.
god's plan? Once again sparky, You have to prove that this unproven god exists before you can start to even uncover at best to second guessing it.
A word to the wise. . . Get some evidence before believing and not belive before having evidence because you nor anyone has a sile smidgen of this so-called hairdresser terrorist god existing.
Oh and btw, You are nowhere near as smort, Oh sorry, Smart, Yeah that's it, As you think you are. That's something you can bank on.
I'm so very glad I made your day better. Please do not post me again unless you have something intelligent to say.
Posted by backwardseden 4 days ago
backwardseden
@NathanH12 - "I don't think. . . " Woah. Stop right there. Whoever said a 17 year old narcissist plague dog weenie tot like you could do something as wide and as vast as actually digging out that hemorrhoid and "think"? That's news to the universe. First before you can state that satan exists, You must prove that god exists in which you cannot prove that either of them exists because nobody in the entire existence of the human race since time began has ever done as such. Duh. Then your argument completely falls apart when you mention something completely moronic, Idiotic and stupid with a measly 2 simple words "satan's plan". Wow. So satan had an actual plan? So I get it, There was something that this unproven satan could do that this so-called unproven god was not---f--king---aware---of? So this according to YOU this means that since this is true, It means that in no possible way was/ is YOUR unproven god a true god. Anything else? And then you mention in a perfect utopia, Which has nothing to do with anything by your standards, In the mentioning of free will, Because under the ruling of your unproven god, According to the rules of your unproven god and what your bible says like a nazi love farm, You have no free will anyway. . . Oh but wait you do in heaven - right love child? So if there's this perfect utopia along with free will in heaven, Then there's no reason why oh why this arrogant piece of s--t unproven god of YOURS CANNOT YANK THAT TOGGLE SWITCH HERE ON EARTH so people can actually live in peace and harmony.
Oh but wait since you know 0% of absolutely nothing. . . The native American Indian tribes for pretty near all of them, They lived in peace and harmony, With care and kindness, They worshiped Mother Earth/ Nature and they didn't TEACH or PRACTICE not anywhere near as much death, Corruption, Hate and violence as your s--t christianity. Its not even a close call. They gave back to the land. You so-called christians chew it up and spit it out.
Posted by NathanH12 4 days ago
NathanH12
I don't think backwardsedan knows that his utopia of a God is actually Satan. Satan's plan was to have us all come to earth and live perfect lives, In a perfect utopia because we would have no free agency (no free will. ) That way, Everyone would be subject to being "perfect" and EVERYONE would make it back to Him. God's plan has us rely on faith on Him to be able to make it back. I don't think he realizes that the bad things that happen to us are opportunities to become better people.
Posted by backwardseden 5 days ago
backwardseden
@1leroy - Did you read RD1 and RD2 of what was posted, Or did you just go on and state what you stated?
"This world needs an intelligent designer. " Why? Yet you completely failed to mention that all important question. So why did you fail to answer that question? The thing about it is, That you probably don't get and or know is that Mother Nature along with evolution is now a proven. Yeah it took long enough. Do you get Netflix streaming? If so, Watch the 10 episode National Geographic series One Strange Rock and if you get Amazon Prime watch PBS's Native America. They sure beat the bible which is based on hate of a superior ego god complex in which the bible is entirely about and nothing else. But then again, Which god and why only one god? Why not thousands, Millions, Billions, Quadrillions or the best bet since no one, Not one person has ever proved that any god has ever existed from any religion in the entire existence of the human race, Is why believe in any god? What is better to believe in, Don't you think you should have some evidence first before believing rather than believing without evidence?
Posted by 1leroy 5 days ago
1leroy
Religion aside, It takes faith to believe that this world made itself or God made the universe. You can not prove where the matter came from that made the earth and I can't prove that God exists. This doesn't mean God is not true, He can't be proved true and he can't be proven false. Although what we can do is present scientific facts, Testable and observable, Like a car needs an intelligent designer, This world needs an intelligent designer. This is observable and common sense.
Posted by Anonymous03 1 week ago
Anonymous03
get ready for a debate where he claims that you're a 'waste of his time' and just recycles other bullsh*t that backwardseden has had from debating this argument about 10 times now.

backwardseden, When you've lost you've lost. It doesn't look like you know how to accept defeat. Why are you debating the same topic so many f*cking times?
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