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You can't love Jesus and be in a same sex marriage

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Started: 12/27/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
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Many gays, lesbians, bis, etc show pride in their sexual orientation, but still claim to be christians, catholics, etc. This contradicts itself because god opposes the prideful (james 4:6) as well as the gays (1 corinthians 6:9-11). And to atheists, homosexuality is also the cause of all stds. Back in the day, they had a thing called 'G.R.I.D.', look it up. Fight me m8


Can anyone who practices Christianity and is a homosexual still be a Christian?

Is anyone who doesn't put a homosexual to death a Christian still?

Leviticus 18 and 20
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Chapter 20 verse 13

The bible was written 2000+ years ago, attitude's towards people behaviour's have changed over time. Most people agree today two consenting adults can have homosexual relationships and still believe in Jesus.

And STD's are transmitted by sex in general, not necessarily homosexuality. People have been getting STD's from straight sex for centuries.
Debate Round No. 1


Never in the bible does it tell its followers to kill homosexuals. "They shall surely be put to death" means that if they don't repent they will go to hell. John 11:26 says that "everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die." Of course, everyone on earth has died, the only way this makes sense is if hes talking about death in a sense that means separation from god, aka, hell.


"Put to death" means to execute someone

Even if the bible has a few sentences condemning homosexuality, modern stances on the subject prevaile vs the stance on homsexuality 2000+ years ago in the Middle East.

Even the Pope agrees that homosexuality isn't a big deal and people who are consenting homosexuals can find God as well

There's really no logical reason why someone who's a practicing homosexual can't come in touch with some divine force in the universe simply because they are attracted to someone of the same sex. They're simply born that way and isn't really their fault, and it's a victimless crime.

In summary, homosexuality isn't really a huge sin. There's only a few passages on it in the bible and to say that a few sentences should be the basis of telling someone that Christianity will deny them is ridiculous, so ridiculous in fact, the Pope even agrees
Debate Round No. 2


Yes, and they WILL be put to death. But not in this life. Also, pope Francis speaks on behalf of the catholics, not christians. And if you don't know the difference between those two, you obviously got a lot of research to do.

And no, a practicing homosexual CANNOT have a relationship with God. Not in a christian sense. John 1:1 tells us that the word (the bible) is God, meaning not only does the bible condemn homosexuality, but also God himself.

And yes, they are born that way, and no, they don't really have a choice, but they DO have a choice of wether they act on it or not. And as soon as they say "I don't want to be like this, I want to be with God" then the lord will help them to grow a new heart and grow out of their old ways. Also, there is a victim, they themselves are the victim.

And saying "There's only a few passages on it in the bible" is a hypocritical thing to say, Genesis 1:1 says that God created the heavens and the earth, are you saying that because its only mentioned a few times means it shouldn't be taken seriously? Thats just outright dumb.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 2 years ago
You should attend this debate:
Atheism- A lost reality! A hopeless, helpless cause!

Nonsense, you can still love Jesus, your just not saved that's all.
Posted by missmedic 2 years ago
The main "benefit" of allegorizing the bible is the ability to remove real or apparent contradictions between Scriptures and current beliefs.
Posted by canis 2 years ago
I loved Amy Whinehouse. My wife did not care...
Posted by canis 2 years ago
Think you could love him even more..If he had a nice body ?..Well he is dead.
Posted by stcornerap 2 years ago
The relationship that a gay person has with Jesus is between the person and Jesus. The most important part of the whole topic is that they have a relationship with Jesus! They are a Christian! Christians should be letting all people know regardless of their sexual orientation that Jesus loves them. It's not our place to decide what work the Holy Spirit will do in someone's life, our goal is to bring them to Jesus. The same verse that says homosexual sex is a sin, also says gossiping is a sin. Something that wouldn't be unheard of to happen in a ladies bible study group. It's really easy to lose sight of what's important, and that is loving God and our neighbor. I sin every day and I love Jesus. Let's let everyone know that Jesus died for them, and leave it up to God to write his laws on their hearts and minds. It's okay to call out other Christians on their sins, but not forget that different people are at different places on their spiritual journey. You are right that the Holy Spirt will convict us of our sins and it will change us, but not everything all at once. God decides what we need and when we need it. Let's remember what's important. I think Jesus would find more love from a saved Gay person than a non saved straight person. Just sayin
Posted by rebeccadejong 2 years ago
all these 'accusations' from the bible are from the old testament. Back then it was a totally different time. This is really hard to expain to someone who's not a Christian, but to make a long story short. Most 'rules' from the old testament don't really apply.

What I mean with this is. God sees every single one of us as sinful people, but after the old testament, God sacrificied his only son to us, to forgive our sins.

Every one is sinful, and ever since Adam and Eve ate from the tree they weren't supposed to eat from, ppeople are being punished by God. Some people are gay, some people get fat easily, some people are pedophiles, some people have mental ilnesses etc. These are all punishments from God, because we people didn't listen to him. God loves every single one of us equally. But some people carry the burden of being gay, this is a curse God gave us. But he still loves them. He made them ater all.
Posted by missmedic 2 years ago
Behaviour puts a person at risk not there sexuality. This sounds like a homophobic rant to me.
Posted by tommylibertarian1 2 years ago
HIV was called GRID because people erroneously believed it only affected gay people. There's nothing to stop someone from believing anything regardless of their sexual practices. This is just prima facia and isn't even worthy of debate.
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