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Debatwinnerpro
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MrBurns2017
Pro (for)

abortion?

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Started: 10/23/2017 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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Debatwinnerpro

Con

first off: Most pro-choice people will say "What about rape? Or incest?" well i would like to say there are some acceptions. However...
Only 1% of abortions in the USA are because of rape or incest.
And Health problems of the mother are only responsible for 3% of abortions

Pro-choice people also bring up the argument "Its their Body and their choice" well it is not their body. The baby has different a different set of DNA, sometimes a different gender, and a different blood type. You cant have 2 blood types, two sets of DNA, and two different genders(some exceptions to the genders) in your body.

Also, did you know that 6 weeks into the pregnancy the baby can feel pain, and they even try to escape the machines used to kill them. The method of aborting babies is having a high powered vacuum, they use this vacuum to tear the fetus to pieces. AND THEY FEEL EVERY PART OF IT!

(also i don't care about contraceptives or abortions within a week after conception.)
MrBurns2017

Pro

Abortion should be available.

The man could simply impregnate a woman if he wants to.

That basically a man can impregnate women whenever they have sex.

Condoms tear up.

There are patches and pills that prevent pregnancy to start with, but that means the man has to trust the woman in getting her pregnant, and that means that the woman has to buy them all the time. That medicine, is irritating for her body every time...and it is just stupid.

There will be a significant amount of unwanted of babies. The developed countries will face more of the problems poor countries have, where there is no availability or accessibility of contraceptives.

I cant even imagine what it feels like raising a baby that you dont want.

I didnt know the parasite can feel pain after 6 months of pregnancy. Poor baby.

Do you really want to have parents who had you by accident? or/and do you want to force to bring up a child that you dont want?

Go live in Caliphate or Vatican, those repressive places dont seem too likely to have anti abortion laws.
Debate Round No. 1
Debatwinnerpro

Con

First off you called babies "parasites". babies are not parasite, parasites take but do not give back, humans are capable of great things, and can make the world a better place. Mary Curie was certainly NOT a parasite. You are the exception to this however, because obviously you don't care about babies, you are a narcissist, and narcissists DON'T help people(they are parasites)

"Condoms tear up." Condoms do tear up, however you can buy extra thick condoms

You also talk about unwanted babies. there are many fixes to that however, early abortion, abstaining, tubal ligation, vasectomies, condoms, and annual contraceptives(some even last up to 5 years.)

"There are patches and pills that prevent pregnancy to start with, but that means the man has to trust the woman in getting her pregnant, and that means that the woman has to buy them all the time. That medicine, is irritating for her body every time...and it is just stupid." :

Like i said they don't have to buy them all the time, there are injections you can get in your arm that last YEARS. And the people can just NOT have sex?

"I cant even imagine what it feels like raising a baby that you dont want.": then dont, get an early abortion, or put the child in foster care if you are going to treat them bad because you didn't want them.

"Do you really want to have parents who had you by accident? or/and do you want to force to bring up a child that you dont want?" actually i wouldnt mind, and theres a thing called "foster care" or "adoption"

and your argument was just a bunch of hate and opinions NO facts whatsoever.
MrBurns2017

Pro

Your anti-abortion law. That you want merely for religious reasons, would create such a mess.

More out of wedlock children, more orphans, more children of rape victims, more poor children, more children in negligence because they were unplanned.

The double thick condoms and the injections do work. It was my solution when I mentioned that there is medicine that prevents the possibility of conception.
But as I mentioned before, the female can on purpose deceive the man into having a baby by telling him she took the medicine. That would force the man have a child he didnt want and pay for it. He may not even have that money.
You as a lawmaker cant put such a reliance on bad human nature.

Foster care, puts strain on the political/economic system. You will just raise everyone's taxes. That is especially if you consider a high quality foster care.

Apart from the sad fact that 6 month pregnancy abortions are painful for the baby, your other points arent a 'fix'.
A stupid mother would abort when she reaches 6 months of pregnancy. Women decide to abort pretty quickly.
If you want a law that prohibits such late abortions, I dont care to have it.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Debatwinnerpro 1 year ago
Debatwinnerpro
its not an abomination, was albert einstein an abomination? was mary currie an abomination?
Posted by MrBurns2017 1 year ago
MrBurns2017
Listen, f@ck that mistake. Give it anesthetics before killing that abomination.
Posted by Bitch_Goddess 1 year ago
Bitch_Goddess
Lmfao a fetus doesn't feel pain after 6 weeks. Where in the hell did you get this completely ridiculous information from, Con?
Posted by Debatwinnerpro 1 year ago
Debatwinnerpro
i wasnt, i was saying they feel pain at 6 weeks you said months lol (i was wrong its actually 8 weeks.)
Posted by MrBurns2017 1 year ago
MrBurns2017
It doesnt matter... because you were already losing.
Posted by Debatwinnerpro 1 year ago
Debatwinnerpro
WELL i was busy working so i accidentaly forfeited.
Posted by MrBurns2017 1 year ago
MrBurns2017
Both are absolute winners.

The mother doesnt need to raise a child she didnt plan. If it was the dads unplanned mistake, that he wont have to work his arse off for someone he doesnt want.

The baby wins too, buy not being raised by two stupid parents who doesnt want him. In addition to all the other hardships of life, like life time work.
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
In wars people get killed on both sides. In abortion there is an absolute winner..
Posted by John_C_1812 1 year ago
John_C_1812
Abortion is a self-incriminating confession to a crime. A person as a witness does not need to be participant in a self-incriminating confession.
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