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bible christians - if u lived n old testament days u shouldve supported stoning/ executions listed

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Started: 8/7/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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The bible says at least many of the killings were dictated by God.

Most people just say they would not stone anyone, nor support it, as if that is the proper response. Then they are unable to articulate why. If you follow the bible though as God's word, as most of these people do, doesn't that mean you would be compelled to stone exectute and/or support it?

'Matthew 15
Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 "Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don"t wash their hands before they eat!"
3 Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, "Honor your father and mother"[a] and "Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death."'

'Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses. (Numbers 15:32-36)'

almost every 10 commandment has a following death punishment later in the bible. most people dont realize that.

here is another death sentence example.
Leviticus 20:13 "'If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."


You point is valid for sure. The problem here though is that we are currently not in the biblical times anymore and the world has changed and is changing which results in a huge change in the ways of living.
Debate Round No. 1


con misses the point. this is a hypothetical. if a bible christian from now lived in those old testament days, he should have, if the bible is true, supported stoning and putting people to death.


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Posted by Jwmart21587 7 years ago
I'm assuming Con is a Biblical Christian since Pro addressed the debate to Biblical Christians. Whatever the case may be, Con should not jump into a debate if the most thoughtful response Con could give is:
"You point is valid for sure. The problem here though is that we are currently not in the biblical times anymore and the world has changed and is changing which results in a huge change in the ways of living."
It was different in the past and we don't live in the past. Wow, so profound.
Posted by Jwmart21587 7 years ago
Pro is lacking substantial knowledge regarding the contextual nature of the Bible. For starters, Jesus hadn't yet been born in the Old Testament so a Christian couldn't exist in the Old Testament.
Christians are not bound to the Old Testament. Why is it in the Bible? It gives context to the existence of Jesus. The Old Testament is about the coming of Jesus. The Old Testament contains many references to a Messiah. Now, you may not believe Jesus was the Messiah but the basis of Judaism is waiting for a Messiah. If you miss that, you have no understanding of the significance of Jesus to Bible Christians.

"And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself" Luke 24:27
The main point though is that Christians are not bound to the law because according to the Bible, Jesus fulfilled the law. In the Old Testament, which Jesus was quoting in Matthew 15, if the law was broken, death could be the consequence. Jesus never broke the law and death was His consequence. Thus fulfilling the law, dying in the place of those who broke the law. As a result, death is no longer the consequence of breaking the law. Since the basis of Christianity is Jesus and His fulfillment of the Old Testament/law, it would a huge contradiction and go against everything Jesus has done for a Christian to enforce Old Testament consequences for breaking that law.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
Matthew 5:17-19
Posted by Preston 7 years ago
ya except John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. so a traditional jew, may support it, or an extreme muslum, but Christian... idk...
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