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dairygirl4u2c
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The Contender
Raisor
Con (against)
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38 Points

income tax = not unconstitutional

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Started: 12/29/2007 Category: Politics
Updated: 14 years ago Status: Voting Period
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dairygirl4u2c

Pro

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

The Constitution itself says it's constitutional.

All I hear is rhetoric that says it's not constitutional, so I thought I'd see what actual arguments back the rhetoric up.
Sadly, all I hear is rhetoric and not much actual facts or concrete argument on most topics, but that's an other issue.

fyi, i am more against income taxation as opposed to other forms of taxation, but income taxation is still legit.
Raisor

Con

I forfeit the debate. I thought I was defending the constitutionality of income taxes. Double negatives (not unconstitutional) confuse me.

Sorry.
Debate Round No. 1
dairygirl4u2c

Pro

dairygirl4u2c forfeited this round.
Raisor

Con

Vote for me!

A vote for Con is a vote not against refusing to use double negatives!

(yay min. word limits!)
Debate Round No. 2
dairygirl4u2c

Pro

dairygirl4u2c forfeited this round.
Raisor

Con

The income tax is unconstitutional because it violates the "due process" cause of the bill of rights. When evaluating tax returns, the IRS assumes you are guilty until proven innocent.

Also, tax investigations are carried out in such a way that the people under investigations are forced to testify against themselves. This is a violation of the 5th amendment.

Those are just some arguments I heard recently. I didnt put much work into the argument because this isnt a real debate...
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by ahundredhighways 14 years ago
ahundredhighways
the levying of any kind of tax is constitutional

income tax is realitivly new to our nation, a policy which franklin roosevelt implemented

but the man who made the original tax system was alexander hamilton, our first secretary of treasury

as i understand it, his taxation policies were focused to build our economy, to tax imports, raising the price of foreign goods, encouraging the people to buy american, but i haven't really looked into it enough to totally understand hamiltons ideals and taxation, i think this is a good idea, but like i said, i've just had a breif introduction to hamilton, i might be wrong
Posted by Pluto2493 14 years ago
Pluto2493
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I voted Con even though he conceded the round because pro conceded and he brought up an argument.
Posted by Pluto2493 14 years ago
Pluto2493
not unconstitutial? Either say Constitutional or say unconstitutional and take con; they give you a choice.
Posted by A-ThiestSocialist 14 years ago
A-ThiestSocialist
has anyone ever read the 16th amendment..........
Posted by Raisor 14 years ago
Raisor
Im sort of embarassed about this...
Posted by longjonsilver 14 years ago
longjonsilver
This site is plagued with double negatives.

There shouldn't even be a "not" in a resolution, much less a "not" and a "un-"
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