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jackgilbert
Con (against)
The Contender
carnew
Pro (for)

is evolution real

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Started: 4/23/2018 Category: Science
Updated: 5 months ago Status: Debating Period
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jackgilbert

Con

Pro starts as they have the burden of proof.
carnew

Pro

yes, evolution is really real.
Debate Round No. 1
jackgilbert

Con

Alright but because you are making a big claim of evolution, you must start because you have to prove your claim.
carnew

Pro

My claim is that evolution is real because it exists.
Debate Round No. 2
jackgilbert

Con

That is circular reasoning. If I asked you how you know evolution is real you would say because it exists. If I ask how you know evolution exists, you would say because it is real. As it can be seen this reasoning leads nowhere and doesn't prove anything whatsoever. Evolution is called a theory for a reason. It has so many unanswered questions and has insufficient evidence supporting it.
carnew

Pro

Evolution can been seen in dog breeds which have been bred by artificial selection and proves changes can be made in species over time. Imagine what dog breeds will look like given 10,000 years of this artificial selection. Now try 100 million years!

We see viruses adapt to medication rendering the medication useless and creating a new strain of virus. This adaptation is a proof on concept of sorts. Life, cells they both mutate and create 'addition' to the life form. Over time this addition becomes more noticeable and in some cases more complex.

You can see in predators and pray, in every eco-system there is an 'arms race' where prey will adapt methods of avoiding, fighting or running away from predators, in turn, this forces the predators to adapt.
Debate Round No. 3
jackgilbert

Con

Let me first point out that my opponent plagiarized his entire argument from the comments section. The argument he posted was written by masterful whom he copied word for word verbatim off of. Nevertheless, I will address it anyway. What the argument is saying is that if evolution were possible then it would be the result of species competing against one another for food and other essentials for life. If this is true, than how would you explain mutualism between animals?
Mutualism, is a relationship between two organisms where both benefit. An example of this is between the oriental sweetlips and the blue streak wrasse. The Oriental sweetlips is one of the few fish that has teeth. However it must get them cleaned otherwise they would rot and fall out. So, the blue streak wrasse cleans the oriental sweetlips teeth by eating all of the plaque on it. This gives the blue streak wrasse a good meal, and at the same time, the oriental sweetlips gets its teeth cleaned, thus causing both to benefit. Evolution states that one life form came into existence from dead matter. This process by itself is impossible but that is aside the point. For now let's just say it happened. That life form reproduced creating every species of animals we see today. In order for evolution to be true, this case of mutualism would have to have come across by chance. Basically, the oriental sweetlips would have to let a random fish swim in it's mouth without mistaking it for a free meal and intuitively know that it is just coming to clean its teeth. At that exact same moment, the blue streak wrasse would have to independently decide to swim in a random fish's mouth without the fear of being eaten. Remember, if none of these things happen at the exact same moment, the process won't work. If that seems hard to believe to be chance then just realize that that is just one of millions of examples of mutualism. There are just too many of these happy coincidences for evolution to be possible.
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by backwardseden 5 months ago
backwardseden
Evolution is proven fact
Antibiotic resistant microbes, better known as "superbugs" is 100% confirmation and certification and proven fact that evolution is taking place right here in the here and the now. Antibiotic resistant microbes are evolving every single second of every single day to become more resistant to antibiotics.

Superbug 1.a pathogenic bacterium that has developed immunity to antibiotics, or an insect that has developed immunity to insecticides.
(has developed mean evolution is taking place) Now watch the vidies that proves evolution is taking place in the here and now)

- Frontline - The Trouble with Antibiotics Documentary
- Frontline - Hunting the Nightmare Bacteria
- Rise Of Superbugs Resistant To Antibiotics | Full Documentary
- Antibiotics Resistance

The so what nothingness god of the bible (thankfully) is not proven fact
No matter which language you speak. god is NOT proven fact.
Posted by jackgilbert 5 months ago
jackgilbert
Pro has to prove their claim. Just because a theory is widely accepted doesn't make in any more true. It would be like me making a claim that Santa Clause is real and saying that it is the other persons job to prove he isn't real.
Posted by cakerman 5 months ago
cakerman
Con has the burden of proof since they are the ones arguing against the conventional scientific standards
Posted by Masterful 5 months ago
Masterful
Evolution can been seen in dog breeds which have been bred by artificial selection and proves changes can be made in species over time. Imagine what dog breeds will look like given 10,000 years of this artificial selection. Now try 100 million years!

We see viruses adapt to medication rendering the medication useless and creating a new strain of virus. This adaptation is a proof on concept of sorts. Life, cells they both mutate and create 'addition' to the life form. Over time this addition becomes more noticeable and in some cases more complex.

You can see in predators and pray, in every eco-system there is an 'arms race' where prey will adapt methods of avoiding, fighting or running away from predators, in turn, this forces the predators to adapt.
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