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704476
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beansarefun
Con (against)

legally there should only be two genders male and female

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Started: 4/20/2018 Category: Society
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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704476

Pro

if someone can claim they are a female and they are transgender then does that allow them to use a women's restroom? that will leave children exposed to pedophiles who are saying that they too are female but really they are perverted and want to spy on little kids. you were born with one gender you can either impregnate or get impregnated there's no other gender and you cant become the other.
beansarefun

Con

Part of my point is that: you are talking about "gender" but the concept you seem to mean is "biological sex". Biological Sex determines what set of genitals you have, and certain biological and physical characteristics. "Gender Identity" is what gender you assign to yourself. Sex cannot be changed, but gender can be. To answer your question about pedophiles using this as an exception, yes, they will. But any one thing cannot stop them, and I have seen no reported cases of this kind of thing happening. Also, this is what has led to the rise in popularity of genderless, individual washrooms. In any washroom, there is still a risk of pedophilia, by gay men, or gay women.
Debate Round No. 1
704476

Pro

I'm simply saying that if you were born a female you are female by law and legally i don't think you should decide whether you are or not. they can act like another sex but to identify as that when people ask is what i'm disagreeing with for 1 its making people confused and for 2 people are saying " don't assume my gender" well ..... there isn't much to assume everyone can physically see whether you are male or female unless of course they get surgery.
its just pointless to me if you like boys you don't have to become a female to like them you can just be gay or if you like wearing female clothing and you like wearing makeup you can do that i don't see the point in saying something like ' i identify as spoon " or some shii ,it just makes people look stupid when they try to be something they are not and i'm OK with the way these people feel but if someone needs to know you have to tell them you actual sex and not walk around saying you are a girl but you are not like i said before , get the surgery and they can do what ever they want but it should not be made legal that you can identify as more than male or female
beansarefun

Con

In the comments, you sound like you are trying to use religious views and etymology to solve this. 1. I don't believe in the existence of god, so let's keep that out of this debate. 2. Yes. The state of being male or female. But that definition does not say that it cannot change. 3. Most of the time, you are legally considered the gender that equates to your sex, unless you go through the surgical and legal processes to change your ID. 4. Being gay and being transgender are very separate. Most people who want to change their gender may still feel the same sexually, but just want to change their gender. 5. Here's something I agree with. People saying "don't assume my gender" doesn't always make sense. You are observing things and saying what you are pretty sure your gender is. 6. People that say things like "I identify as spoon" are usually making fun of how many genders people think there are. There's a great meme about identifying as an attack helicopter, in fact.
Debate Round No. 2
704476

Pro

I don't believe in a god either just trying to help people see my point from another view and i'm not even talking about gays they don't try to be something they're not but trans i don't understand why you would need to be a girl you can just act ;like one and dress like one that's basically the only thing that you would need to do does it matter if they call you a guy if you know deep down you are a girl then why are they trying to confuse so many people why do you want to be legally a female for why? its just a bit ridiculous they gay marriage was okay and people liking the same sex but this is a whole new concept .
and those same people will say " don't try to be something you're not " well ... you wanna be a legal hypocrite too?
also i don't understand what you are trying to say here mate how can the state of being male or female change when there are only male and female to be...
lastly... there are some really great racist memes out there.. that doesn't make them right tho \(@-@)/
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by 704476 3 years ago
704476
exactly my point
gender: "the state of being male or female"
Origin:based on Latin genus "birth, family, nation".
they can be and do what they want but they cannot identify as a guy if they're not one. all of them might act like and look like and even feel like one but god did not put them here to be that.
Posted by The_logical_one 3 years ago
The_logical_one
People are confusing gender with personality. Just because you are a guy who likes to act like a girl that does not make you a girl, that makes you a guy who acts like a girl. Just because someone doesn't abide by all the cultural norms of what constitutes a man or women that confers not the other gender. Gender and sex are intertwined and just because someone does not abide by the majority that does not mean that a person should invest thousands of dollars into transforming their body to conform into what they wish to see. Male and female are not just different chromosomes and genitalia. There is a major called "Testosterone and Estrogen" these hormones play a big role in how we interact with one another.
Posted by natedaparson 3 years ago
natedaparson
I do not agree with you. There is literally has been no reports of people claiming to be an opposite gender to get in a bathroom and rape people.
Posted by FanboyMctroll 3 years ago
FanboyMctroll
Totally agree with you +1

transgenders are freaks of nature, in the wild they would perish as the abnormal runt
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