prostitution - should it be legal?

This is becoming a clear dividing line between the parties- the democrats, true to form, are making excuses for Spitzer the arrogant hypocrite scumbag, as they did for Slick Willie. Do you agree with the democrats, that it is a "victimless crime" and thus, Spitzer should be allowed to stay? and that Slick Willies sex crimes are also "his personal business" you must be a democrat then.

Wanna take this on, all you liberal excuse and mintute types?

I'd like to bring up a few points about your opening argument, and clarify some things in the process.

FIRSTLY I would like to make it perfectly clear that I am not a 'Liberal', in fact, I am arguably more conservative than you in some areas. I am not a democrat either, and do believe that his personal business is just that, personal.

SECONDLY I would like to point out that being 'liberal' in personal (non economic) issues isn't necessarily a bad thing. In fact, people who are 'liberal' for those issues tend to support Liberty regarding those issues, which in my opinion is a very good thing.

THIRDLY your argument is very shallow. In fact, your entire argument is full of personal attacks on the Governor.

AS FOR my main arguments.

You seem to be bringing up Spitzer a lot, so I feel the need to address him in my argument. I plan to address him shortly, as he is just one figure in this very wide debate. You mock the idea that this prostitution issue is his own personal business. I ask you how is it NOT his own business? What does him doing anything with prostitutes have anything to do with his political career? This is a politicians personal life, not his political one. I do find it ironic that he had done a few prostitution stings and was caught himself for being involved in prostitution, but his being caught in prostitution does not mean he is any less of a public policy maker.

You also mock the idea that this might be a victimless crime, or possibly the very idea of victimless crimes. Who is the victim in crimes of prostitution? The John? No. The prostitute? No. Both of them entered a mutual agreement. The John wanted to have sex with the woman for money, and the woman wanted to have sex with him for money. This is no different than going to a strip club, or even buying something from a garage sale. The only person even potentially harmed here is you. Your feelings are hurt, you disapprove of the idea of such activity so you call for it's banishment. Is that not selfish, to banish something simply because you disapprove of the behavior?

Liberty is an important part of all of our lives, and it must be protected. Liberty includes allowing others to do what they want, so long as they do not actually impede on others liberties. Prostitution does not impede on anybody's liberties, however the outlawing of prostitution takes Liberty away from thousands (If not millions) of adults who simply want to
have consensual sex. Who are you to decide they can't?

I must ask the instigator to keep this debate clean, to avoid ad hominmen attacks and ranting, and to please try to keep this an intelligent discussion.

Well, my opponent had very little opening to go on, and posted nothing so far as a central argument. I must try to elaborate on my own.

People should have control over their own bodies, and people like solarman have no right to claim control over somebody elses body, however much he disagrees with them.

Prostitution DESTROYS the lives of WOMEN-and some young men as well

it is ANATHEMA to morality, and should FIRMLY be opposed by society

It increases disease, physical abuse , crime, drug use, depression, slavery, abortion, and all kinds of other explotive and harmful things to humans

Furthermore, it futher promotes the concept of making sex meaningless and demeaning women (and boys) into sex objects, to be used as slaves by the "owner" or John, and the pimps who enslave them

This erodes a society, and like the Romans, will eventually rot it at the core

Once again, you are far too young to understand the wider societal implications of your position, much as the others who shamelessly promote abortion for the same reasons (freedom to do with your body whatever you like)

SOLARMAN

I find it interesting that a good deal of the 'bad' things you list on about regarding prostitution are actually very much caused by the fact that it is illegal. Disease in brothels is regulated, as birth control methods are generally required (look at Nevada for examples), Physical abuse would end- as they can now report it without fear of arrest. Slavery would not exist as much, as it would move out of the underground.

I agree that society might have a right to look down on such practices, especially conservatives. However, simply because society disagrees with something is not justification for it to be illegal. We should not limit personal liberties simply because other third parties disapprove.

Prostitution is the choice of the woman, or man who joins. If they themselves want meaningless sex, or to be 'demeaned', then that is their choice. People have meaningless sex all the time, with or without prostitution.

People should have the right to do what they want, even if you happen to disagree with it. The 'destruction' of the lives of women and men, if it happens, is the fault of the women and men themselves, and it is not the responsibility of the government to nanny these individuals.

Your closing statements are simply ad hominem attacks, and nothing more. My age has nothing to do with my argument, or the correctness of my political views.