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8/15/2013 4:08:33 PM Posted: 7 years ago To find out the truth.
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8/15/2013 4:10:13 PM Posted: 7 years ago Practice semantics skills.
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8/15/2013 4:25:45 PM Posted: 7 years ago To prove that gingers are the superior race.
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8/15/2013 5:41:37 PM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/15/2013 4:25:45 PM, MassiveDump wrote: I support equal rights for gingers. |
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8/15/2013 5:51:11 PM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/15/2013 4:08:33 PM, GOP wrote: Debate has many uses, and can fill many roles. Some of these that are important to me personally are: 1) Debate can create an environment where proponents of different ideas protect their intellectual credibility more than their pride. This is important, because many will admit defeat in defending or advancing an argument in order to protect their overall integrity. Outside of debate, there is almost never an example of anyone ever admitting even the slightest error or the most forgivable ignorance. 2) Formal debate can force participants to acquire a deeper understanding of a complicated subject. Competition motivates. This is true in learning, as well. 3) Debate can test various methods of communicating complex ideas. Often, the ability to sway an audience requires more than research; persuasive presentations are needed. This environment creates an incentive for those who want to communicate these concepts to others to simplify their argument so that they can be learned and communicated by others. |
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8/15/2013 6:42:53 PM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/15/2013 4:10:13 PM, Bullish wrote: DDO: THE MOVIE = http://www.debate.org... http://www.debate.org... 12/14/14 to 1/1/15 = VP of DDO 8/4/18 to 8/6/18 = Start of the Worst Spam Attack in DDO History (61 Hours, 21 Minutes, and 37 seconds... Estimated 63,175 Spam Posts during the main attack) Be Today's Hero and Tomorrow's Hero The trash from yesterday will still be trash from every day onwards |
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8/15/2013 6:43:44 PM Posted: 7 years ago To win.
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8/15/2013 6:44:28 PM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/15/2013 6:43:44 PM, Maikuru wrote: Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org... Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder |
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8/15/2013 7:02:35 PM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/15/2013 5:51:11 PM, DeFool wrote:THIS!At 8/15/2013 4:08:33 PM, GOP wrote: 2) Formal debate can force participants to acquire a deeper understanding of a complicated subject. Competition motivates. This is true in learning, as well. For me debating is good communication practise. I often struggle to put the ideas in my head to paper in a logical format, so I like to practise. Debating is also useful to test ones own belief system. If you believe in something, but can not defend your ideals, then perhaps it is time to re evaluate. These are not the droids you're looking for. |
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8/15/2013 9:34:59 PM Posted: 7 years ago To realise that debating is pointless.
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8/15/2013 9:37:32 PM Posted: 7 years ago TO BOOST TEH ELO
...even though the system is still pretty flawed. I leik ELO. Nolite Timere |
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8/15/2013 9:38:22 PM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/15/2013 9:37:32 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote: The 'lo' is supposed to be lowercase. It's not an abbreviation. |
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8/16/2013 11:11:58 AM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/15/2013 4:08:33 PM, GOP wrote: I agree. There are two common models of the purpose. One is that it is game, with the objective to win. The other is to find the truth. These are not necessarily at odds. In the truth-seeking model, the debater wants to win not just to score a victory, but to have the truth prevail. The debate is a limited arena. The best a debater can do is prove that he got closer to the truth than his opponent. There are many tactics that can be used if the objective is winning and not truth seeking: fog the debate with semantics by pretending something clear is not; raise irrelevant side issues; deliberately misinterpret your opponent; attack premises that you actually believe are true. It's a long list. The truth-seeking model presumes a high level of honesty in debate. People will always fall into fallacies and errors, but in the truth model the errors are not deliberate. |
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8/16/2013 11:21:53 AM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/15/2013 4:08:33 PM, GOP wrote: .............................. is nothing...just timepass Only cool guys can see this.... |
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8/16/2013 11:22:12 AM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/16/2013 11:21:53 AM, rajun wrote:At 8/15/2013 4:08:33 PM, GOP wrote: LOL. |
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8/16/2013 11:23:57 AM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/16/2013 11:22:12 AM, GOP wrote:At 8/16/2013 11:21:53 AM, rajun wrote:At 8/15/2013 4:08:33 PM, GOP wrote: at least in this site... Only cool guys can see this.... |
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8/16/2013 11:52:41 AM Posted: 7 years ago "Winning" debates here cannot be the goal. If it were, there are many ways to game the system, including voting alliances, multiple accounts, "noob-sniping," and other non-rhetorical strategies.
These debates garner only votes/applause - and this must not become a source of pride for the serious players themselves. (We may use those who obviously place too high stock in their 'scoring' as a faintly embarrassing reminder of what this looks like.) I am not arguing that the ELO, etc., is not a valid source of amusement; it is a video game high score that can be difficult to achieve. Only that this should be far less satisfying than the other benefits of the game - as it represents the "play area" of the site. I hold to the idea that it is very acceptable to be outscored, and to improve one's understanding of, and ability to communicate, an idea then to 'win.' I would rather live as a "sad Socrates" then a "happy fool." |
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8/18/2013 10:47:22 AM Posted: 7 years ago At 8/15/2013 4:08:33 PM, GOP wrote: I don't think there is any THE point of debating. Different people debate for different reasons. Some do it to persuade others. Some do it for sport and entertainment. Some do it to pick other people's brains and subject their own views to scrutiny (kind of a peer review process). Etc. "When a wise man has a controversy with a foolish man, the foolish man either rages or laughs, and there is no rest." ~Proverbs 29:9 "Not to know of what things one should demand demonstration, and of what one should not, argues want of education." ~Aristotle "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~Aristotle |
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8/19/2013 9:15:58 AM Posted: 7 years ago To piss people off. It's fun.
Wall of LOL "Infanticide is justified as long as the infants are below two" ~ RoyalPaladin "Promoting female superiority is the only way to establish equality." ~ RoyalPaladin "Jury trials should be banned. They're nothing more than opportunities for racists to destroy lives." ~ RoyalPaladin after the Zimmerman Trial. |
