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Hayd
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3/14/2017 4:17:01 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I ended the sign ups today with 5 people. The tournament is single elimination, with the pairings randomized. Because of the odd number of participants, R1 will only consist of one match, between missbailey and Beginner.

The debates will be done in a recorded google hangout (which I can help you with setting up) and then uploaded to youtube, this youtube video will be linked in a one round debate on DDO so that judges can vote on who won. I recommend inviting a bunch of people into the hangout so that they can listen in on it, as well as leave their judging decision after the debate is done (they would vote on the DDO debate based on their decision and for RFD say "RFD given in video"). The specifics of the debate rules are up to the debaters, for example on how long each speaker will be allowed to speaker in which rounds, whether to allow cross-examination, how many rounds, etc. You have two weeks to start a debate topic, sides, and to start your debate.

Good luck!

p.s. please post the link in the main forum an hour or so before it starts. I'd like to join
whiteflame
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3/14/2017 5:11:15 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Don't be discouraged by the turnout on this. I honestly want to do it, but my schedule's a nightmare right now.
warren42
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3/14/2017 5:41:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 5:11:15 AM, whiteflame wrote:
Don't be discouraged by the turnout on this. I honestly want to do it, but my schedule's a nightmare right now.

+1.

This week is spring break and I'm not doing anything (except watch The Last Airbender, read, and play Farcry 4) but since it probably wouldn't be finished by Sunday I go back to the whirlwind of a semester I'm having 3/20
Mharman
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3/14/2017 2:07:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 4:17:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
forgot to link this, visual of bracket is here
http://challonge.com...

What determined the seedings?
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Hayd
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3/14/2017 4:24:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 2:07:38 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:17:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
forgot to link this, visual of bracket is here
http://challonge.com...

What determined the seedings?

random. I bulk added the sign up list and then shuffled the seeds
Mharman
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3/14/2017 4:26:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 4:24:36 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 2:07:38 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:17:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
forgot to link this, visual of bracket is here
http://challonge.com...

What determined the seedings?

random. I bulk added the sign up list and then shuffled the seeds

That kinda screws over the two that were randomly selected to be the 4 and 5 seeds.
DebateArt.com is where all the users went.
Hayd
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3/14/2017 4:34:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 4:26:45 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:24:36 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 2:07:38 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:17:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
forgot to link this, visual of bracket is here
http://challonge.com...

What determined the seedings?

random. I bulk added the sign up list and then shuffled the seeds

That kinda screws over the two that were randomly selected to be the 4 and 5 seeds.

Yeah, no other way to do single elimination. And I said when I posted the sign ups that it would be single elimination
Mharman
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3/14/2017 4:35:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 4:34:26 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:26:45 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:24:36 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 2:07:38 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:17:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
forgot to link this, visual of bracket is here
http://challonge.com...

What determined the seedings?

random. I bulk added the sign up list and then shuffled the seeds

That kinda screws over the two that were randomly selected to be the 4 and 5 seeds.

Yeah, no other way to do single elimination. And I said when I posted the sign ups that it would be single elimination

It would have been better to do the seeds by elo or win percentage.
DebateArt.com is where all the users went.
Hayd
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3/14/2017 4:36:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 4:35:29 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:34:26 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:26:45 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:24:36 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 2:07:38 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:17:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
forgot to link this, visual of bracket is here
http://challonge.com...

What determined the seedings?

random. I bulk added the sign up list and then shuffled the seeds

That kinda screws over the two that were randomly selected to be the 4 and 5 seeds.

Yeah, no other way to do single elimination. And I said when I posted the sign ups that it would be single elimination

It would have been better to do the seeds by elo or win percentage.

meh, maybe.
Mharman
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3/14/2017 4:37:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 4:36:17 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:35:29 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:34:26 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:26:45 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:24:36 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 2:07:38 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:17:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
forgot to link this, visual of bracket is here
http://challonge.com...

What determined the seedings?

random. I bulk added the sign up list and then shuffled the seeds

That kinda screws over the two that were randomly selected to be the 4 and 5 seeds.

Yeah, no other way to do single elimination. And I said when I posted the sign ups that it would be single elimination

It would have been better to do the seeds by elo or win percentage.

meh, maybe.

It could have also been a four-person tourney. I think it's kinda cheap to participate in your own tournament.
DebateArt.com is where all the users went.
Hayd
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3/14/2017 5:12:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 4:37:48 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:36:17 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:35:29 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:34:26 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:26:45 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:24:36 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 2:07:38 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:17:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
forgot to link this, visual of bracket is here
http://challonge.com...

What determined the seedings?

random. I bulk added the sign up list and then shuffled the seeds

That kinda screws over the two that were randomly selected to be the 4 and 5 seeds.

Yeah, no other way to do single elimination. And I said when I posted the sign ups that it would be single elimination

It would have been better to do the seeds by elo or win percentage.

meh, maybe.

It could have also been a four-person tourney. I think it's kinda cheap to participate in your own tournament.

lol
Mharman
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3/14/2017 7:29:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 5:12:59 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:37:48 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:36:17 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:35:29 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:34:26 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:26:45 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:24:36 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 2:07:38 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:17:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
forgot to link this, visual of bracket is here
http://challonge.com...

What determined the seedings?

random. I bulk added the sign up list and then shuffled the seeds

That kinda screws over the two that were randomly selected to be the 4 and 5 seeds.

Yeah, no other way to do single elimination. And I said when I posted the sign ups that it would be single elimination

It would have been better to do the seeds by elo or win percentage.

meh, maybe.

It could have also been a four-person tourney. I think it's kinda cheap to participate in your own tournament.

lol

Think about it. If you kicked yourself out, let Beginner take your spot, and auto-advance Solon to face Tej, you'd have a four man bracket, perfectly even, where no one is screwed over by probability.
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Mharman
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3/14/2017 7:32:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2017 5:12:59 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:37:48 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:36:17 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:35:29 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:34:26 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:26:45 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:24:36 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/14/2017 2:07:38 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 3/14/2017 4:17:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
forgot to link this, visual of bracket is here
http://challonge.com...

What determined the seedings?

random. I bulk added the sign up list and then shuffled the seeds

That kinda screws over the two that were randomly selected to be the 4 and 5 seeds.

Yeah, no other way to do single elimination. And I said when I posted the sign ups that it would be single elimination

It would have been better to do the seeds by elo or win percentage.

meh, maybe.

It could have also been a four-person tourney. I think it's kinda cheap to participate in your own tournament.

lol

The bracket would then end up looking like this:

Semis

Tej v. Solon
Beginner v. Bailey

Finals

Winner v. Winner

You could even have a third-place match.
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tejretics
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3/16/2017 3:17:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
If it's just five people, don't make it single elimination.

Make it round robin, and get the two people with most points onto the finals.

The bracket:

Hayd vs. Solon
Hayd vs. Bailey
Hayd vs. Beginner
Hayd vs. Tej
Solon vs. Bailey
Solon vs. Beginner
Solon vs. Tej
Beginner vs. Bailey
Beginner vs. Tej
Bailey vs. Tej

Each victory counts for 1 pt., and each person does four debates. The top two make it to the finals.
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Hayd
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3/16/2017 3:21:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/16/2017 3:17:25 PM, tejretics wrote:
If it's just five people, don't make it single elimination.

Make it round robin, and get the two people with most points onto the finals.

The bracket:

Hayd vs. Solon
Hayd vs. Bailey
Hayd vs. Beginner
Hayd vs. Tej
Solon vs. Bailey
Solon vs. Beginner
Solon vs. Tej
Beginner vs. Bailey
Beginner vs. Tej
Bailey vs. Tej

Each victory counts for 1 pt., and each person does four debates. The top two make it to the finals.

I said in sign ups I was doing single, expected to have more people
FourTrouble
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3/16/2017 3:23:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'll be a judge.
If you'd like a vote on your debate, please send me a link. I'll do my best to offer a sufficient RFD in your favor.

Also: If you'd like to vote bomb a debate and need help crafting a sufficient RFD, let me know.
tejretics
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3/16/2017 3:32:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/16/2017 3:21:11 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/16/2017 3:17:25 PM, tejretics wrote:
If it's just five people, don't make it single elimination.

Make it round robin, and get the two people with most points onto the finals.

The bracket:

Hayd vs. Solon
Hayd vs. Bailey
Hayd vs. Beginner
Hayd vs. Tej
Solon vs. Bailey
Solon vs. Beginner
Solon vs. Tej
Beginner vs. Bailey
Beginner vs. Tej
Bailey vs. Tej

Each victory counts for 1 pt., and each person does four debates. The top two make it to the finals.

I said in sign ups I was doing single, expected to have more people

So change it.
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