How to Get Good at Making Money

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

At 7/31/2013 12:50:31 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

Move somewhere else. Look for specific jobs online that are looking for workers .

At 7/31/2013 4:24:23 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:50:31 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

Move somewhere else. Look for specific jobs online that are looking for workers .

I can't move somewhere else without first obtaining a job, otherwise I would not be able to pay rent. And if I obtain a job in another state, I must have enough time to find a landlord before I start work; otherwise it would be impossible to commute. Commuting to another state is even harder than commuting within my own state.

It's a catch 22.


All I can hope for is that someone will eventually hire me within 15 miles. Once they hire me I can than move closer to work in order to reduce transportation costs.

At 7/31/2013 9:37:53 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 4:24:23 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:50:31 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

Move somewhere else. Look for specific jobs online that are looking for workers .

I can't move somewhere else without first obtaining a job, otherwise I would not be able to pay rent. And if I obtain a job in another state, I must have enough time to find a landlord before I start work; otherwise it would be impossible to commute. Commuting to another state is even harder than commuting within my own state.

It's a catch 22.


All I can hope for is that someone will eventually hire me within 15 miles. Once they hire me I can than move closer to work in order to reduce transportation costs.

Well, it deoends on the pay with me. I have no plans on leaving my job, but if you find a decent paying job that you'd like to do search for a house or apartment already in your budget. Eventually move, but apply for the job before you move and purchase the area. This way if they don't accept you you just drive home. If there's no jobs near you, it's probably best moving anyway.

At 7/31/2013 9:45:04 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:37:53 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 4:24:23 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:50:31 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

Move somewhere else. Look for specific jobs online that are looking for workers .

I can't move somewhere else without first obtaining a job, otherwise I would not be able to pay rent. And if I obtain a job in another state, I must have enough time to find a landlord before I start work; otherwise it would be impossible to commute. Commuting to another state is even harder than commuting within my own state.

It's a catch 22.


All I can hope for is that someone will eventually hire me within 15 miles. Once they hire me I can than move closer to work in order to reduce transportation costs.

Well, it deoends on the pay with me. I have no plans on leaving my job, but if you find a decent paying job that you'd like to do search for a house or apartment already in your budget. Eventually move, but apply for the job before you move and purchase the area. This way if they don't accept you you just drive home. If there's no jobs near you, it's probably best moving anyway.

There is a huge difference between changing jobs, and trying to enter the workforce.

At 7/31/2013 9:47:19 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:45:04 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:37:53 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 4:24:23 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:50:31 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

Move somewhere else. Look for specific jobs online that are looking for workers .

I can't move somewhere else without first obtaining a job, otherwise I would not be able to pay rent. And if I obtain a job in another state, I must have enough time to find a landlord before I start work; otherwise it would be impossible to commute. Commuting to another state is even harder than commuting within my own state.

It's a catch 22.


All I can hope for is that someone will eventually hire me within 15 miles. Once they hire me I can than move closer to work in order to reduce transportation costs.

Well, it deoends on the pay with me. I have no plans on leaving my job, but if you find a decent paying job that you'd like to do search for a house or apartment already in your budget. Eventually move, but apply for the job before you move and purchase the area. This way if they don't accept you you just drive home. If there's no jobs near you, it's probably best moving anyway.

There is a huge difference between changing jobs, and trying to enter the workforce.

To clarify my budget is $0, because I am still trying to enter the workforce. I currently make ~$1,000 a year as an independent contractor, which is not enough to do what you are suggesting.

At 7/31/2013 9:47:19 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:45:04 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:37:53 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 4:24:23 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:50:31 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

Move somewhere else. Look for specific jobs online that are looking for workers .

I can't move somewhere else without first obtaining a job, otherwise I would not be able to pay rent. And if I obtain a job in another state, I must have enough time to find a landlord before I start work; otherwise it would be impossible to commute. Commuting to another state is even harder than commuting within my own state.

It's a catch 22.


All I can hope for is that someone will eventually hire me within 15 miles. Once they hire me I can than move closer to work in order to reduce transportation costs.

Well, it deoends on the pay with me. I have no plans on leaving my job, but if you find a decent paying job that you'd like to do search for a house or apartment already in your budget. Eventually move, but apply for the job before you move and purchase the area. This way if they don't accept you you just drive home. If there's no jobs near you, it's probably best moving anyway.

There is a huge difference between changing jobs, and trying to enter the workforce.

To clarify my budget is $0, because I am still trying to enter the workforce. I currently make ~$1,000 a year as an independent contractor, which is not enough to do what you are suggesting.

At 7/31/2013 9:50:16 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:47:19 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:45:04 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:37:53 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 4:24:23 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:50:31 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

Move somewhere else. Look for specific jobs online that are looking for workers .

I can't move somewhere else without first obtaining a job, otherwise I would not be able to pay rent. And if I obtain a job in another state, I must have enough time to find a landlord before I start work; otherwise it would be impossible to commute. Commuting to another state is even harder than commuting within my own state.

It's a catch 22.


All I can hope for is that someone will eventually hire me within 15 miles. Once they hire me I can than move closer to work in order to reduce transportation costs.

Well, it deoends on the pay with me. I have no plans on leaving my job, but if you find a decent paying job that you'd like to do search for a house or apartment already in your budget. Eventually move, but apply for the job before you move and purchase the area. This way if they don't accept you you just drive home. If there's no jobs near you, it's probably best moving anyway.

There is a huge difference between changing jobs, and trying to enter the workforce.

To clarify my budget is $0, because I am still trying to enter the workforce. I currently make ~$1,000 a year as an independent contractor, which is not enough to do what you are suggesting.

Well, if you're making such littke money, get a job somewhere where a degree isn't required. If you can't find any jobs that fit your degree, get a completely different job. Save up money you earn there, theb buy a house or apartment and move. An apartment would most likely be easier starting off.

At 7/31/2013 10:18:01 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:50:16 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:47:19 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:45:04 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:37:53 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 4:24:23 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:50:31 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

Move somewhere else. Look for specific jobs online that are looking for workers .

I can't move somewhere else without first obtaining a job, otherwise I would not be able to pay rent. And if I obtain a job in another state, I must have enough time to find a landlord before I start work; otherwise it would be impossible to commute. Commuting to another state is even harder than commuting within my own state.

It's a catch 22.


All I can hope for is that someone will eventually hire me within 15 miles. Once they hire me I can than move closer to work in order to reduce transportation costs.

Well, it deoends on the pay with me. I have no plans on leaving my job, but if you find a decent paying job that you'd like to do search for a house or apartment already in your budget. Eventually move, but apply for the job before you move and purchase the area. This way if they don't accept you you just drive home. If there's no jobs near you, it's probably best moving anyway.

There is a huge difference between changing jobs, and trying to enter the workforce.

To clarify my budget is $0, because I am still trying to enter the workforce. I currently make ~$1,000 a year as an independent contractor, which is not enough to do what you are suggesting.

Well, if you're making such littke money, get a job somewhere where a degree isn't required. If you can't find any jobs that fit your degree, get a completely different job. Save up money you earn there, theb buy a house or apartment and move. An apartment would most likely be easier starting off.

I've been applying to places where a degree is not required. They either won't hire me, or they don't pay enough to cover the initial commute or rent for that area.

At 7/31/2013 10:18:01 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:50:16 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:47:19 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:45:04 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:37:53 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 4:24:23 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:50:31 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

Move somewhere else. Look for specific jobs online that are looking for workers .

I can't move somewhere else without first obtaining a job, otherwise I would not be able to pay rent. And if I obtain a job in another state, I must have enough time to find a landlord before I start work; otherwise it would be impossible to commute. Commuting to another state is even harder than commuting within my own state.

It's a catch 22.


All I can hope for is that someone will eventually hire me within 15 miles. Once they hire me I can than move closer to work in order to reduce transportation costs.

Well, it deoends on the pay with me. I have no plans on leaving my job, but if you find a decent paying job that you'd like to do search for a house or apartment already in your budget. Eventually move, but apply for the job before you move and purchase the area. This way if they don't accept you you just drive home. If there's no jobs near you, it's probably best moving anyway.

There is a huge difference between changing jobs, and trying to enter the workforce.

To clarify my budget is $0, because I am still trying to enter the workforce. I currently make ~$1,000 a year as an independent contractor, which is not enough to do what you are suggesting.

Well, if you're making such littke money, get a job somewhere where a degree isn't required. If you can't find any jobs that fit your degree, get a completely different job. Save up money you earn there, theb buy a house or apartment and move. An apartment would most likely be easier starting off.

I've been applying to places where a degree is not required. They either won't hire me, or they don't pay enough to cover the initial commute or rent for that area.

At 7/31/2013 10:20:03 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 10:18:01 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:50:16 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:47:19 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:45:04 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 9:37:53 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 4:24:23 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:50:31 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:46:37 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:10:17 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 12:05:17 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 5:01:53 AM, Noctan wrote:
Or you could get a degree, followed by a job.

Getting a degree is much easier than finding a job. It has been nearly a year since I got my A.S. in Business, and still no-one will hire. I've applied to every job opening within a 15 mile radius.

It would probably be easier to start your own business, than to get hired in this economy. Of course you would need start up capital to do that.

Well, depends on the degree you get, really. You could always apply somewhere far out and move, like a big office type corporation possibly.

Not that easy in NH. Bus routes are very limited.

Move somewhere else. Look for specific jobs online that are looking for workers .

I can't move somewhere else without first obtaining a job, otherwise I would not be able to pay rent. And if I obtain a job in another state, I must have enough time to find a landlord before I start work; otherwise it would be impossible to commute. Commuting to another state is even harder than commuting within my own state.

It's a catch 22.


All I can hope for is that someone will eventually hire me within 15 miles. Once they hire me I can than move closer to work in order to reduce transportation costs.

Well, it deoends on the pay with me. I have no plans on leaving my job, but if you find a decent paying job that you'd like to do search for a house or apartment already in your budget. Eventually move, but apply for the job before you move and purchase the area. This way if they don't accept you you just drive home. If there's no jobs near you, it's probably best moving anyway.

There is a huge difference between changing jobs, and trying to enter the workforce.

To clarify my budget is $0, because I am still trying to enter the workforce. I currently make ~$1,000 a year as an independent contractor, which is not enough to do what you are suggesting.

Well, if you're making such littke money, get a job somewhere where a degree isn't required. If you can't find any jobs that fit your degree, get a completely different job. Save up money you earn there, theb buy a house or apartment and move. An apartment would most likely be easier starting off.

I've been applying to places where a degree is not required. They either won't hire me, or they don't pay enough to cover the initial commute or rent for that area.

You should search for a job in other areas, get a crappy apartment to start with so you can afford it, then go from there.

At 7/31/2013 10:35:01 PM, DanT wrote:
For the past year I have been working with 2 different employment agencies, and 1 job coach, and I still can't get hired. The job coach was through the NH Vocational Rehab program.

At 7/31/2013 11:36:55 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 10:35:01 PM, DanT wrote:
For the past year I have been working with 2 different employment agencies, and 1 job coach, and I still can't get hired. The job coach was through the NH Vocational Rehab program.

Well, your best bet is to just attempt to get out of the area. Maybe get a Bachelor's degree by going to school again if you can. That is a very tough situation though. It's usually good to research what jobs you can get with a certain degree and attempt to find them. But one thing for sure is you need to get out of that area somehow. You could always (bear with me) get a loan of some sort.

At 7/31/2013 11:52:09 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 11:36:55 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 10:35:01 PM, DanT wrote:
For the past year I have been working with 2 different employment agencies, and 1 job coach, and I still can't get hired. The job coach was through the NH Vocational Rehab program.

Well, your best bet is to just attempt to get out of the area. Maybe get a Bachelor's degree by going to school again if you can. That is a very tough situation though. It's usually good to research what jobs you can get with a certain degree and attempt to find them. But one thing for sure is you need to get out of that area somehow. You could always (bear with me) get a loan of some sort.

I don't want to take out a loan before I get a job. A loan is just one more expense that I have to consider, which would limit my job search even more.

I would be more inclined to take out a business loan and start my own company.

At 8/1/2013 12:34:14 AM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 11:52:09 PM, DanT wrote:

At 7/31/2013 11:36:55 PM, Noctan wrote:

At 7/31/2013 10:35:01 PM, DanT wrote:
For the past year I have been working with 2 different employment agencies, and 1 job coach, and I still can't get hired. The job coach was through the NH Vocational Rehab program.

Well, your best bet is to just attempt to get out of the area. Maybe get a Bachelor's degree by going to school again if you can. That is a very tough situation though. It's usually good to research what jobs you can get with a certain degree and attempt to find them. But one thing for sure is you need to get out of that area somehow. You could always (bear with me) get a loan of some sort.

I don't want to take out a loan before I get a job. A loan is just one more expense that I have to consider, which would limit my job search even more.

I would be more inclined to take out a business loan and start my own company.

What kind of company do you have in mind?