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4/14/2013 7:07:51 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
Be careful on using Tor. It relies on user provided nodes, to re-route your connection. This leaves it open for governments to set up nodes to track any activity going through them.

I cannot stress this enough: It is not safe.
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4/14/2013 7:08:29 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
Oh, and there's the fact that the nodes you do route through also get a way into your computer.
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4/14/2013 3:06:11 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
VPN FTW

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4/14/2013 5:52:14 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/14/2013 7:07:51 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Be careful on using Tor. It relies on user provided nodes, to re-route your connection. This leaves it open for governments to set up nodes to track any activity going through them.

I cannot stress this enough: It is not safe.

Buying and trafficking illegal drugs is, as I understand it, usually accompanied by some level of risk.
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4/14/2013 5:52:49 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/14/2013 5:52:14 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 4/14/2013 7:07:51 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Be careful on using Tor. It relies on user provided nodes, to re-route your connection. This leaves it open for governments to set up nodes to track any activity going through them.

I cannot stress this enough: It is not safe.

Buying and trafficking illegal drugs is, as I understand it, usually accompanied by some level of risk.

My inside sources on this matter may be mistaken, though.
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4/14/2013 6:42:27 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Wow. I was familiar with Tor before, but I never realised this existed (although I assumed something like it must). Thanks WSA, you thought me something today; I'm going deep web exploring.
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4/15/2013 1:40:10 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/14/2013 5:52:49 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 4/14/2013 5:52:14 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 4/14/2013 7:07:51 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Be careful on using Tor. It relies on user provided nodes, to re-route your connection. This leaves it open for governments to set up nodes to track any activity going through them.

I cannot stress this enough: It is not safe.

Buying and trafficking illegal drugs is, as I understand it, usually accompanied by some level of risk.

My inside sources on this matter may be mistaken, though.

You don't say?
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4/15/2013 1:46:37 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/14/2013 5:52:14 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 4/14/2013 7:07:51 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Be careful on using Tor. It relies on user provided nodes, to re-route your connection. This leaves it open for governments to set up nodes to track any activity going through them.

I cannot stress this enough: It is not safe.

Buying and trafficking illegal drugs is, as I understand it, usually accompanied by some level of risk.

There is a difference between 'some, and 'an extremely large amount'. When you buy off silk road, you generally have to buy in bulk. This can easily lead to charges on the level of federal drug trafficking.
"Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact." - Carl Sagan

This is the response of the defenders of Sparta to the Commander of the Roman Army: "If you are a god, you will not hurt those who have never injured you. If you are a man, advance - you will find men equal to yourself. And women.
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4/19/2013 12:21:26 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/14/2013 7:07:51 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Be careful on using Tor. It relies on user provided nodes, to re-route your connection. This leaves it open for governments to set up nodes to track any activity going through them.

I cannot stress this enough: It is not safe.

Why does everyone else say that it's safe?
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4/19/2013 1:20:03 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/19/2013 12:21:26 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 4/14/2013 7:07:51 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Be careful on using Tor. It relies on user provided nodes, to re-route your connection. This leaves it open for governments to set up nodes to track any activity going through them.

I cannot stress this enough: It is not safe.

Why does everyone else say that it's safe?

Either they do not understand the system they are using, they are using greater protection than Tor, or they are lying.
"Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact." - Carl Sagan

This is the response of the defenders of Sparta to the Commander of the Roman Army: "If you are a god, you will not hurt those who have never injured you. If you are a man, advance - you will find men equal to yourself. And women.
YYW
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4/19/2013 2:14:33 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/19/2013 1:20:03 PM, muzebreak wrote:
At 4/19/2013 12:21:26 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 4/14/2013 7:07:51 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Be careful on using Tor. It relies on user provided nodes, to re-route your connection. This leaves it open for governments to set up nodes to track any activity going through them.

I cannot stress this enough: It is not safe.

Why does everyone else say that it's safe?


Either they do not understand the system they are using, they are using greater protection than Tor, or they are lying.

I know almost nothing about computers, computer technology, etc. and even though I've read the explanation that TOR and Wikipedia offer for how TOR works, I don't know enough to know why that wouldn't be safe -but I'd like too. Could you explain it for us? (Preferably in language that a non-comp sci major could understand).
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4/19/2013 4:59:37 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/19/2013 2:14:33 PM, YYW wrote:
At 4/19/2013 1:20:03 PM, muzebreak wrote:
At 4/19/2013 12:21:26 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 4/14/2013 7:07:51 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Be careful on using Tor. It relies on user provided nodes, to re-route your connection. This leaves it open for governments to set up nodes to track any activity going through them.

I cannot stress this enough: It is not safe.

Why does everyone else say that it's safe?


Either they do not understand the system they are using, they are using greater protection than Tor, or they are lying.

I know almost nothing about computers, computer technology, etc. and even though I've read the explanation that TOR and Wikipedia offer for how TOR works, I don't know enough to know why that wouldn't be safe -but I'd like too. Could you explain it for us? (Preferably in language that a non-comp sci major could understand).

Tor works by routing your connection through various nodes, essentially a point that takes your connection and re-routes it, this causes your connection to appear to come from one of the nodes, rather then your computer. But, what has started happening is that people will set up nodes to try and find weak connections to crack. Various governments have also taken to setting up nodes that will record all connections.
"Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact." - Carl Sagan

This is the response of the defenders of Sparta to the Commander of the Roman Army: "If you are a god, you will not hurt those who have never injured you. If you are a man, advance - you will find men equal to yourself. And women.
Wallstreetatheist
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4/19/2013 8:18:26 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I must ask you then, what do you consider the most effective method for circumventing government surveillance online?
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4/20/2013 3:59:18 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/19/2013 12:21:26 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 4/14/2013 7:07:51 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Be careful on using Tor. It relies on user provided nodes, to re-route your connection. This leaves it open for governments to set up nodes to track any activity going through them.

I cannot stress this enough: It is not safe.

Why does everyone else say that it's safe?

If by safe, you mean 100% safe, then you are horribly wrong. But with the proper protections in place, I would say the silk road is about as safe as driving a car, as in eventually you may slip up and get caught.
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4/20/2013 4:05:03 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/19/2013 8:18:26 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
I must ask you then, what do you consider the most effective method for circumventing government surveillance online?

Not going online......

No, but seriously. First off, its a good start to use OpenSSL a program used to encrypt data you send out. But realistically, if you want to avoid government surveillance, learn to war-drive, and steal connections. They can't track your actions if they aren't already pointed at your connection. So, unless they have software on your computer, in which case you're screwed anyways, you will get a decent level of connection security in respect to avoiding surveillance.
"Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact." - Carl Sagan

This is the response of the defenders of Sparta to the Commander of the Roman Army: "If you are a god, you will not hurt those who have never injured you. If you are a man, advance - you will find men equal to yourself. And women.

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