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3/17/2017 6:39:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I did it out of curiosity for some time. It just so happened that the events ordered themselves so that I didn't feel like beating it for a month or so.

It was completely unimpactful to my life and just made me more horny.
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3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.
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3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?
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3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.
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3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people
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3/17/2017 8:18:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people

Lack of beating off does not reduce sexual impulse, it amplifies it.
GoldFyre
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3/17/2017 8:19:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:18:01 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people

Lack of beating off does not reduce sexual impulse, it amplifies it.

So is there no way at all to eliminate sexual impulse?
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3/17/2017 8:19:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:19:03 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:18:01 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people

Lack of beating off does not reduce sexual impulse, it amplifies it.

So is there no way at all to eliminate sexual impulse?

Nope.
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3/17/2017 8:20:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:19:32 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:03 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:18:01 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people

Lack of beating off does not reduce sexual impulse, it amplifies it.

So is there no way at all to eliminate sexual impulse?

Nope.

That's really frightening and unfair
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3/17/2017 8:21:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:20:11 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:32 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:03 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:18:01 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people

Lack of beating off does not reduce sexual impulse, it amplifies it.

So is there no way at all to eliminate sexual impulse?

Nope.

That's really frightening and unfair

Why do you think that?
Mikal
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3/17/2017 8:23:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

You have a stupid goal, revise it, and jerk it all day
GoldFyre
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3/17/2017 8:25:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:21:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:20:11 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:32 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:03 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:18:01 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people

Lack of beating off does not reduce sexual impulse, it amplifies it.

So is there no way at all to eliminate sexual impulse?

Nope.

That's really frightening and unfair

Why do you think that?

Because it's torture and there's no way to stop it. What about Buddhist monks? Can't they stop it? I bet the Dalai Lama doesn't beat off
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3/17/2017 8:28:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:25:10 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:21:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:20:11 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:32 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:03 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:18:01 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people

Lack of beating off does not reduce sexual impulse, it amplifies it.

So is there no way at all to eliminate sexual impulse?

Nope.

That's really frightening and unfair

Why do you think that?

Because it's torture and there's no way to stop it. What about Buddhist monks? Can't they stop it? I bet the Dalai Lama doesn't beat off

Humans are sexual beings. Don't fight nature; embrace it.
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3/17/2017 8:29:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:28:05 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:25:10 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:21:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:20:11 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:32 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:03 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:18:01 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people

Lack of beating off does not reduce sexual impulse, it amplifies it.

So is there no way at all to eliminate sexual impulse?

Nope.

That's really frightening and unfair

Why do you think that?

Because it's torture and there's no way to stop it. What about Buddhist monks? Can't they stop it? I bet the Dalai Lama doesn't beat off

Humans are sexual beings. Don't fight nature; embrace it.

doesn't do any good. makes me feel bad
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3/17/2017 8:39:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:29:13 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:28:05 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:25:10 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:21:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:20:11 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:32 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:03 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:18:01 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people

Lack of beating off does not reduce sexual impulse, it amplifies it.

So is there no way at all to eliminate sexual impulse?

Nope.

That's really frightening and unfair

Why do you think that?

Because it's torture and there's no way to stop it. What about Buddhist monks? Can't they stop it? I bet the Dalai Lama doesn't beat off

Humans are sexual beings. Don't fight nature; embrace it.

doesn't do any good. makes me feel bad

Go watch some porn, beat off, and realize that you did nothing wrong.

Are you gay and trying not to be or something?
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3/17/2017 9:09:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:39:35 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:29:13 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:28:05 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:25:10 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:21:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:20:11 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:32 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:19:03 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:18:01 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 8:11:02 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:43:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

That is not possible for any person.

Why not? I mean I feel like it's necessary for some people

Lack of beating off does not reduce sexual impulse, it amplifies it.

So is there no way at all to eliminate sexual impulse?

Nope.

That's really frightening and unfair

Why do you think that?

Because it's torture and there's no way to stop it. What about Buddhist monks? Can't they stop it? I bet the Dalai Lama doesn't beat off

Humans are sexual beings. Don't fight nature; embrace it.

doesn't do any good. makes me feel bad

Go watch some porn, beat off, and realize that you did nothing wrong.

Are you gay and trying not to be or something?

I'm straight. But too ugly to get a girl (23 and still haven't been on a date, and not for lack of trying), so I'm trying to eliminate my sex drive so that I don't feel bad about it
SarcasticIndeed
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3/17/2017 10:15:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:25:10 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
Because it's torture and there's no way to stop it. What about Buddhist monks? Can't they stop it? I bet the Dalai Lama doesn't beat off

If you trust in the Buddhist teachings, yes, there are ways to stop sensual desire.

However, this is a goal that's a long way from any of us. Sensual desire is a fetter that only goes away when you reach the third step to enlightenment (out of four steps to Arahant-ship).

In general, Buddhist monks aren't allowed, or rather, aren't supposed to masturbate. There are quite a few monks that have brought down their desires of this kind so that they almost appear. The Dalai Lama almost surely doesn't suffer because of sexual desire.

However, if you are not a monk, you are probably doing yourself more bad than good by trying to suppress your desires. Lay Buddhists are allowed to marry and have kids, the only kind of sexual misconduct which they are not to partake in falls into rape, cheating and similar.

In general, when monks drop the desire for sexual pleasures, they don't do it by fighting it, constraining it. That moment of letting go of desire comes from seeing viscerally (and not intellectually) that there is absolutely nothing worth holding on to in having sex. At that point, it's not that you fight sexual desire, it's that it has nowhere to appear because you know that it is formed on untrue ideas of the satisfactoriness of sex.

People often turn to Buddhism or similar traditions to somehow do away with some desire causing them suffering in real life. This is called "spiritual bypassing", where one tries to use spirituality as a way to cope with some atrophy in life. In truth, the practice of Buddhism has nothing to do with suppression of our desires, especially not by "NoFap", which as you may notice by looking at the corresponding reddit sub, doesn't work that often.

Trying to suppress a part of you creates tension inside of you which eventually has to burst out. So people eventually aren't able to contain themselves and indulge in fapping or whatever, then feel guilty, then try again and so on and so forth.

It's perfectly fine to beat it off. What's not good for you is trying to deny this natural part of human existence. You create more trouble out of fapping than there actually is.

Embrace what you are. Meditate, notice the nature of your urges.

As I've practiced Buddhism more, fapping has more become delegated to a sort of "scratch the itch" activity. The drive to find the most deprived things to get off to for maximum pleasure has dropped of exponentially and it's more like sating your hunger now. At that point, it's still a sort of suffering, but not the radical suffering that NoFappers make it out to be.

You aren't depressed and anxious because you fap. You fap because you feel depressed and anxious so often that it's a way to forget yourself for a short amount of time.
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3/17/2017 10:21:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 9:09:01 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
I'm straight. But too ugly to get a girl (23 and still haven't been on a date, and not for lack of trying), so I'm trying to eliminate my sex drive so that I don't feel bad about it

Probably the worst thing you can do to yourself. If you contain yourself into fixed ideas you will act through them.

I haven't ever had a girlfriend until I completely let go of the wish to have one. Told myself "fvck it, what happens, happens" and she eventually appeared (for a short time, but whatever).

What's more, during the short fling, I've only found more suffering to be had in relationship. Instead of dwelling on being alone, you become anxious of losing. Trade a suffering for another.

That's not to say that you cannot have a nice relationship that doesn't produce horrendous amounts of suffering, but if you find yourself suffering because you are not in a relationship, you are going to find yourself suffering while you are in a relationship.

You don't have to drop sexual desire. As of now, that's impossible for any of us.

What you do have to drop is the idea that you have to have a partner, that it's the right thing for you, or whatever other story you are telling yourself.

Just be where you are, do what you do, don't win or lose.
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3/17/2017 11:48:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 8:19:32 PM, YYW wrote:
So is there no way at all to eliminate sexual impulse?
Nope.
I feel like there's some neurosurgeon with a laser somewhere who disagrees
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3/18/2017 12:28:18 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I recommend that everyone at least give it a try, especially if you're having any sort of sleep or mood problems. Not everyone will benefit in the same way (or at all), but for me at least, I know that I'm better off when I stick to Nofap. I suspect that it varies person to person, and the only way to know if you are someone who stands to benefit is by trying it.

By the way, Nofap is not about trying to kill sexual desire. Actually, horniness and the mental energy it brings can be viewed as the main benefit.
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3/18/2017 12:32:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

I don't know why you would choose to have that goal. Nofap will not help with it in the least.
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3/18/2017 1:00:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/18/2017 12:28:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
I recommend that everyone at least give it a try, especially if you're having any sort of sleep or mood problems. Not everyone will benefit in the same way (or at all), but for me at least, I know that I'm better off when I stick to Nofap. I suspect that it varies person to person, and the only way to know if you are someone who stands to benefit is by trying it.

By the way, Nofap is not about trying to kill sexual desire. Actually, horniness and the mental energy it brings can be viewed as the main benefit.

You should get a Grindr and find some guy to fuck_around with.
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3/18/2017 11:32:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 10:21:47 PM, SarcasticIndeed wrote:
At 3/17/2017 9:09:01 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
I'm straight. But too ugly to get a girl (23 and still haven't been on a date, and not for lack of trying), so I'm trying to eliminate my sex drive so that I don't feel bad about it

Probably the worst thing you can do to yourself. If you contain yourself into fixed ideas you will act through them.

I haven't ever had a girlfriend until I completely let go of the wish to have one. Told myself "fvck it, what happens, happens" and she eventually appeared (for a short time, but whatever).

What's more, during the short fling, I've only found more suffering to be had in relationship. Instead of dwelling on being alone, you become anxious of losing. Trade a suffering for another.

That's not to say that you cannot have a nice relationship that doesn't produce horrendous amounts of suffering, but if you find yourself suffering because you are not in a relationship, you are going to find yourself suffering while you are in a relationship.

You don't have to drop sexual desire. As of now, that's impossible for any of us.

What you do have to drop is the idea that you have to have a partner, that it's the right thing for you, or whatever other story you are telling yourself.

Just be where you are, do what you do, don't win or lose.

This post actually makes sense. I've found that when I was insecure about losing friends, I did very stupid, impulsive things that drove my friends away, and then I really didn't have friends.
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3/18/2017 11:33:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/18/2017 12:32:00 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:40:52 PM, GoldFyre wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you. Nofap is stupid.

What if your goal is to eliminate all sexual thoughts and desire for relationships?

I don't know why you would choose to have that goal. Nofap will not help with it in the least.

I feel like I'm giving free power to women that they don't deserve
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3/18/2017 5:33:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Morbid curiosity drew me to this thread. It's understandable why people would want to stop, but it's kind of dumb that they named it "NoFap".
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3/19/2017 4:36:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure it's unhealthy to keep your sperm in longer than a couple weeks. Masturbation, in the absence of sex-induced orgasm, is a necessity health-wise.
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3/19/2017 8:49:05 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/18/2017 11:32:22 AM, GoldFyre wrote:
This post actually makes sense. I've found that when I was insecure about losing friends, I did very stupid, impulsive things that drove my friends away, and then I really didn't have friends.

Exactly! The problem isn't sexual desire or girls, it's a much deeper problem and what you are experiencing is just a symptom. There's a dude mentioned in The Game, the book about the history of pick up artistry, who tried to fill that hole he felt in himself by changing as many girls as possible. He ended up pretty miserable and turned to religion. It seems you are just going the opposite way, trying to remove or deny the hole itself.

It's just not feasible. Living a balanced life, or working towards a balanced life, and especially a wholesome life (though this gests past many people) is the way to being content wherever you are. Your problem really really isn't girls.

If you got a girl right now, after the initial rush, it'd all be the same, because your mind isn't changed. External conditions change all the time, one moment we're up, one moment we're down. As long as the mind chases after the up and runs away from the down we're just going in circles of suffering.

I suggest you get your life in order, do things you'd like to do but perhaps can't get yourself to. Eat healthy, sleep healthy, go out and meet people, write, draw, do whatever it is you wish to do. Least of all you should worry if a girl will end up in your bed.
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3/20/2017 2:29:53 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you.

You are correct, but there is a growing amount of scientific evidence that shows that pornography use is bad for you, and NoFap, despite its name, is primarily for individuals who wish to quit porn.
" I got thinkin' how we was holy when we was one thing, an' mankin' was holy when it was one thing. An' it on'y got unholy when one mis'able little fella got the bit in his teeth an' run off his own way, kickin' an' draggin' an' fightin'. Fella like that bust the holiness. But when they're all workin' together, not one fella for another fella, but one fella kind of harnessed to the whole shebang--that's right, that's holy."
--Rev. Casy, The Grapes of Wrath
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3/20/2017 2:37:44 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/20/2017 2:29:53 AM, Tree_of_Death wrote:
At 3/17/2017 7:24:14 PM, YYW wrote:
There is no competent scientific evidence that beating off is bad for you, and there's a lot of scientific evidence that not beating off can be bad for you.

You are correct, but there is a growing amount of scientific evidence that shows that pornography use is bad for you, and NoFap, despite its name, is primarily for individuals who wish to quit porn.

There is *absolutely* no scientific evidence which meaningfully establishes that there is any harm in viewing pornography.

Now, go find your sources that you think disagree with me and I'll tell you why they're wrong.