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Praise of God is Absolute Truth without Trace

dattaswami
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4/10/2018 2:34:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Devotee:

God do not require our worship. But, there are lot of Vedic hymns which praises God in different ways. These verses also authored by God Himself?

Shri Swami replied:

Praise of God does not have any exaggeration. Every praise of God is absolute truth only. It is said that any praise of God is statement of reality only though it looks like a praise (yathaartha vyahrutih saahi nastutih parameshtinah"). Praise is the result of either total lie or at least partial lie. In the case of praise of a human being, this applies. Since every praise of God is truth only without any trace of exaggeration, there is no fault at all in praising God. When you praise yourself or other human beings, sin results due to total or partial lie existing in it. In the praise of God, since there is no lie and hence there is no sin, there is no place of criticism of such statement of truth from anybody. Knowledge of truth is the meaning of the word "Veda".

God, the author of the Veda has given the knowledge of absolute truth without any trace of lie or exaggeration in it. Communication of truth to the humanity is the basic idea of God. If a human being has written a prayer on himself, which generally consists of total or partial lie, the objection posed by you may have some value. Even in the case of human being, it is not necessary that every human being writes praise of himself consisting total or partial exaggeration always. He may write a statement of truth about himself without any exaggeration.

If somebody writes that he is born in 1947, there is no exaggeration or praise in it. In the case of God, the case is totally different. Any extent of praise stated by God or stated by devotees is only absolute naked truth without even a trace of lie. Therefore, no statement of God about Himself or no statement on God by any devotee can be criticized in any context. There is nothing which God cannot do (omnipotence) and nothing which God cannot know (omniscience). Therefore, God is beyond the criticism of any created soul. The Gita says that one just knows the factual concepts of God from all the Vedas (vedaishcha sarvairahameva vedyah...).
SecularMerlin
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4/10/2018 6:31:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/10/2018 2:34:11 PM, dattaswami wrote:
Devotee:

God do not require our worship. But, there are lot of Vedic hymns which praises God in different ways. These verses also authored by God Himself?

Shri Swami replied:

Praise of God does not have any exaggeration. Every praise of God is absolute truth only. It is said that any praise of God is statement of reality only though it looks like a praise (yathaartha vyahrutih saahi nastutih parameshtinah"). Praise is the result of either total lie or at least partial lie. In the case of praise of a human being, this applies. Since every praise of God is truth only without any trace of exaggeration, there is no fault at all in praising God. When you praise yourself or other human beings, sin results due to total or partial lie existing in it. In the praise of God, since there is no lie and hence there is no sin, there is no place of criticism of such statement of truth from anybody. Knowledge of truth is the meaning of the word "Veda".

God, the author of the Veda has given the knowledge of absolute truth without any trace of lie or exaggeration in it. Communication of truth to the humanity is the basic idea of God. If a human being has written a prayer on himself, which generally consists of total or partial lie, the objection posed by you may have some value. Even in the case of human being, it is not necessary that every human being writes praise of himself consisting total or partial exaggeration always. He may write a statement of truth about himself without any exaggeration.

If somebody writes that he is born in 1947, there is no exaggeration or praise in it. In the case of God, the case is totally different. Any extent of praise stated by God or stated by devotees is only absolute naked truth without even a trace of lie. Therefore, no statement of God about Himself or no statement on God by any devotee can be criticized in any context. There is nothing which God cannot do (omnipotence) and nothing which God cannot know (omniscience). Therefore, God is beyond the criticism of any created soul. The Gita says that one just knows the factual concepts of God from all the Vedas (vedaishcha sarvairahameva vedyah...).

You do understand that the Vedas are the claim not the proof do you not? Do you have any outside proof of this claim beyond anecdotal?
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
dattaswami
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4/14/2018 7:09:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
one proof can be as follows.

Creation of Life (God " Scientist) (Excerpt from message of Shri Datta Swami)

When the energy, which is another form of matter, only does a special function, that special function or special mechanism or special technology is called as life. Thus, life is the special work of energy. The scientist is unable to make the energy to do this special work. The scientist is unable to know this special mechanism. Thus life is a special know-how or the knowledge of special technology. Since knowledge is power, the life can be called as special power.

Let me give you an example. A cook prepared a curry. With the same materials another cook prepared the same curry but with additional taste. This special taste is the life. The taste is not the extra material, which is hidden in the hand of second cook. The taste is only a special knowledge or talent of the second cook. The first cook is scientist and the second cook is God. God does not reveal this one special technology to human beings because the human being always wants to become God due to his inherent egoism and jealousy. Thus God saved the human being from its fall. One should constantly remember this point and constantly surrender to God.

posted by: surya (disciple of swamiji)
www.universal-spirituality.org

At 4/10/2018 6:31:21 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
You do understand that the Vedas are the claim not the proof do you not? Do you have any outside proof of this claim beyond anecdotal?
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4/14/2018 12:58:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2018 7:09:50 AM, dattaswami wrote:
one proof can be as follows.

Creation of Life (God " Scientist) (Excerpt from message of Shri Datta Swami)

When the energy, which is another form of matter, only does a special function, that special function or special mechanism or special technology is called as life. Thus, life is the special work of energy. The scientist is unable to make the energy to do this special work. The scientist is unable to know this special mechanism. Thus life is a special know-how or the knowledge of special technology. Since knowledge is power, the life can be called as special power.

Let me give you an example. A cook prepared a curry. With the same materials another cook prepared the same curry but with additional taste. This special taste is the life. The taste is not the extra material, which is hidden in the hand of second cook. The taste is only a special knowledge or talent of the second cook. The first cook is scientist and the second cook is God. God does not reveal this one special technology to human beings because the human being always wants to become God due to his inherent egoism and jealousy. Thus God saved the human being from its fall. One should constantly remember this point and constantly surrender to God.

posted by: surya (disciple of swamiji)
www.universal-spirituality.org

I was looking forward to your proof, unfortunately upon close examination this would instead seem to be another claim.


At 4/10/2018 6:31:21 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
You do understand that the Vedas are the claim not the proof do you not? Do you have any outside proof of this claim beyond anecdotal?
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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4/25/2018 4:41:07 PM
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