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4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.
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4/26/2017 9:42:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

What is "divisive" and "extreme" about Le Pen?
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4/26/2017 9:46:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Si vous etes francais, nous pouvons parler en francais si vous aimez bien que je sois meilleur en anglais.
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4/26/2017 9:51:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/26/2017 9:42:40 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

What is "divisive" and "extreme" about Le Pen?

She wants to be manhandled by Putin.
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4/26/2017 9:55:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/26/2017 9:51:14 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:42:40 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

What is "divisive" and "extreme" about Le Pen?

She wants to be manhandled by Putin.

Who doesn't? ;)
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4/26/2017 10:11:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/26/2017 9:42:40 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

What is "divisive" and "extreme" about Le Pen?

Her poicies, her father and her party.

https://www.google.co.uk...

http://www.frontnational.com...

I actually agree with some of Le Pen's policies but she is considered far right and extreme by french political standards. She is actually moving to distance herself strategically from the FN. It really does have a toxic image linked historically to the Vichy regime, Fascism, Anti semitism and Racism. Looking at your political compass though she is probably too far to the left for your liking?
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4/27/2017 3:05:01 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

Gee, wasn't Hilary supposed to win based on the polls and media disinformation? It's not over until it's over. Le Pen is Europe's hope against out of control political correctness and the Islamic onslaught. She is no extremist but a nationalist. If she doesn't win, you will be going to the mosque in 30 years, if the Muslim migrants haven't killed you after raping your wife and daughter. Of course I may be exaggerating a bit, but you get the picture, unless of course you're on the left, which in this case you're a cuckolded lefty and completely blind to the danger of Islamic intrusion to your identity and freedom. You can thank your leaders for that.
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4/27/2017 3:40:27 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/26/2017 10:11:26 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:42:40 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

What is "divisive" and "extreme" about Le Pen?

Her poicies, her father and her party.

https://www.google.co.uk...

http://www.frontnational.com...

I actually agree with some of Le Pen's policies but she is considered far right and extreme by french political standards. She is actually moving to distance herself strategically from the FN. It really does have a toxic image linked historically to the Vichy regime, Fascism, Anti semitism and Racism. Looking at your political compass though she is probably too far to the left for your liking?

I love how the modern left equates 1940 Jews to radical Muslims.

Totally equal scenarios.
The extinction of the species is worse than the extinction of the nation, which is worse than the extinction of the tribe, which is worse than the extinction of the family, which is worse than the extinction of the individual. The second he reverses that list of priorities, he becomes a coward, and would be summarily disposed of by any civilized society that values its own survival.
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4/28/2017 2:16:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

Goodness. Macron must really suck. Le Pen would be off the map in the US.
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4/29/2017 5:47:34 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/26/2017 10:11:26 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:42:40 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

What is "divisive" and "extreme" about Le Pen?

Her poicies, her father and her party.

https://www.google.co.uk...
BBC... lol
The media tends to exaggerate people like Nigel Farage, Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen, etc. She's just speaking out against multiculturalism and an open door policy with "refugees". Also, why should she be defined by her father? She isn't her father and she expelled him from the party for being too radical.

http://www.frontnational.com...
What about this?

I actually agree with some of Le Pen's policies but she is considered far right and extreme by french political standards. She is actually moving to distance herself strategically from the FN. It really does have a toxic image linked historically to the Vichy regime, Fascism, Anti semitism and Racism.
Not anymore.

Looking at your political compass though she is probably too far to the left for your liking?
Macron is basically a globalist, corporatism, in favor of open borders, and pro-establishment. I'm not the biggest fan of Le Pen, but she's the best option for France at the moment. Right now, France should focus on getting out of the European Union.
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4/29/2017 6:03:39 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Only extremists are worthy of leading. Everyone else is ignorant of philosophy and should be disqualified from public office
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4/30/2017 6:14:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/29/2017 5:47:34 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 4/26/2017 10:11:26 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:42:40 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

What is "divisive" and "extreme" about Le Pen?

Her poicies, her father and her party.

https://www.google.co.uk...
BBC... lol

You think the BBC has left wing bias?

The media tends to exaggerate people like Nigel Farage, Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen, etc. She's just speaking out against multiculturalism and an open door policy with "refugees". Also, why should she be defined by her father? She isn't her father and she expelled him from the party for being too radical.

I'm just pointing out that many people regard Le Pen as an extremist. Especially in France. Although it may not be fair to regard her as an extremist due to being a member of the FN or the daughter of Jean-Marie Le Pen the truth is many people think that way. As you point out most members of the political establishment and the press certainly do. The point of this thread was more to point out how something supposedly unthinkable nearly happened. I'm not actually criticising Le Pen.

http://www.frontnational.com...
What about this?

The FN manifesto. Those are the policies many people consider extremist.

I actually agree with some of Le Pen's policies but she is considered far right and extreme by french political standards. She is actually moving to distance herself strategically from the FN. It really does have a toxic image linked historically to the Vichy regime, Fascism, Anti semitism and Racism.
Not anymore.

But those things are associated with the FN. Many FN supporters hold such views which although is not necessarilya reason to condemn the FN it gives the FN a bad image when it is associated with supporters who sympathise with the Nazis or hold blatant racist views.

Looking at your political compass though she is probably too far to the left for your liking?
Macron is basically a globalist, corporatism, in favor of open borders, and pro-establishment. I'm not the biggest fan of Le Pen, but she's the best option for France at the moment. Right now, France should focus on getting out of the European Union.

I agree it would be in the best interests of France if it quit the EU. However as the UK is negotiating it's exit from the EU currently it is in our interest that the EU and it's Europhile leaders do not feel threatened that when making a mutually beneficial deal with the UK it could fuel nationalism and independence movements throughout the EU. Obviously this is a position based on what is in the interest of me and my country though. If I was French I would vote for Le Pen.
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4/30/2017 6:23:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/28/2017 2:16:22 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

Goodness. Macron must really suck. Le Pen would be off the map in the US.

Yes Macron has essentially lucked in to the presidency due to the dissatisfaction of French voters with the two mainstream parties. He is nothing special. All that is different about him is he is a bit too far to the right to fit in the Socialist party under a left winger like Hollande. In my opinion France is in for fairly similar governance to what French people are so dissatisfied with currently.
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4/30/2017 6:31:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/27/2017 3:05:01 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

Gee, wasn't Hilary supposed to win based on the polls and media disinformation? It's not over until it's over. Le Pen is Europe's hope against out of control political correctness and the Islamic onslaught. She is no extremist but a nationalist. If she doesn't win, you will be going to the mosque in 30 years, if the Muslim migrants haven't killed you after raping your wife and daughter. Of course I may be exaggerating a bit, but you get the picture, unless of course you're on the left, which in this case you're a cuckolded lefty and completely blind to the danger of Islamic intrusion to your identity and freedom. You can thank your leaders for that.

I openly hate Islam. I live in a country that has started proceedings to leave the EU fortunately so the threat of uncontrolled and unregulated migration will soon be over. There is no chance of me ever worshipping false gods. I hold views all over the political spectrum. I'm just pointing out that France nearly had a president with a platform that the majority of French citizens would be appalled by and consider extremist. Remember that those on the left would be dissatisfied with Le Pen and those on the right would be dissatisfied with Melenchon so a Le Pen or Melenchon presidency would be hugely unpopular.
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4/30/2017 10:07:52 PM
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At 4/30/2017 6:31:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 4/27/2017 3:05:01 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

Gee, wasn't Hilary supposed to win based on the polls and media disinformation? It's not over until it's over. Le Pen is Europe's hope against out of control political correctness and the Islamic onslaught. She is no extremist but a nationalist. If she doesn't win, you will be going to the mosque in 30 years, if the Muslim migrants haven't killed you after raping your wife and daughter. Of course I may be exaggerating a bit, but you get the picture, unless of course you're on the left, which in this case you're a cuckolded lefty and completely blind to the danger of Islamic intrusion to your identity and freedom. You can thank your leaders for that.

I openly hate Islam. I live in a country that has started proceedings to leave the EU fortunately so the threat of uncontrolled and unregulated migration will soon be over. There is no chance of me ever worshipping false gods. I hold views all over the political spectrum. I'm just pointing out that France nearly had a president with a platform that the majority of French citizens would be appalled by and consider extremist. Remember that those on the left would be dissatisfied with Le Pen and those on the right would be dissatisfied with Melenchon so a Le Pen or Melenchon presidency would be hugely unpopular.

I have always believed that the Brexit vote was at least partly a vote against the rising Muslim population.
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5/1/2017 5:51:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/30/2017 10:07:52 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 4/30/2017 6:31:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 4/27/2017 3:05:01 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 4/26/2017 9:06:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The next president of France is almost certainly going to be Emmanuel Macron, a pro EU centrist not affiliated to either of the mainstream parties but generally leaning towards the left as shown by his previous stint as Francois Hollande's finance minister in the outgoing socialist government. He is certainly not going to rock the boat even if he is a newcomer to running for elected office.

Macron won the first round of voting with 24% of the vote but what is interesting in my opinion is that the far right (Marine Le Pen, Front National) picked up 21.3% of the vote to finish second and the far left (Jean-Luc Melenchon, La France Insoumise) picked up 19.6 to come in a close fourth. France was actually very close to having a run off for the presidency between these two divisive candidates which would realistically be the only prospect of either being elected given the nature of the electoral system used in France. Currently Macron leads by 22 points in the notoriously accurate French polls making him a relative shoe in to be the next president.

It is also interesting that 39.9% of voters chose such divisive and extreme platforms and only 26.4% of voters backed candidates from the mainstream parties. The election results certainly demonstrate dissatisfaction among voters with the political establishment and a willingness to give something different a try whatever the risks may be.

Gee, wasn't Hilary supposed to win based on the polls and media disinformation? It's not over until it's over. Le Pen is Europe's hope against out of control political correctness and the Islamic onslaught. She is no extremist but a nationalist. If she doesn't win, you will be going to the mosque in 30 years, if the Muslim migrants haven't killed you after raping your wife and daughter. Of course I may be exaggerating a bit, but you get the picture, unless of course you're on the left, which in this case you're a cuckolded lefty and completely blind to the danger of Islamic intrusion to your identity and freedom. You can thank your leaders for that.

I openly hate Islam. I live in a country that has started proceedings to leave the EU fortunately so the threat of uncontrolled and unregulated migration will soon be over. There is no chance of me ever worshipping false gods. I hold views all over the political spectrum. I'm just pointing out that France nearly had a president with a platform that the majority of French citizens would be appalled by and consider extremist. Remember that those on the left would be dissatisfied with Le Pen and those on the right would be dissatisfied with Melenchon so a Le Pen or Melenchon presidency would be hugely unpopular.

I have always believed that the Brexit vote was at least partly a vote against the rising Muslim population.

Yes many people in the UK were concerned about the lack of control over EU migration which led to unsustainable levels of annual net migration. It's also true many people were specifically concerned by the lack of control over Muslim migration.

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