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5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM Posted: 6 years ago do people that have commit a crime deserve to go to jail?
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5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: Depends. https://rekonomics.wordpress.com... "A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross |
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5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: why? |
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5/19/2012 4:06:05 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: Why not? : : :Tulle: The fool, I purposely don't engage with you because you don't have proper command of the English language. : : : : The Fool: It's my English writing. Either way It's okay have a larger vocabulary then you, and a better grasp of language, and you're a woman. : : I'm just going to leave this precious struggle nugget right here. |
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5/19/2012 4:08:48 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: Depends on the crime. https://rekonomics.wordpress.com... "A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross |
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5/19/2012 4:10:38 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:06:05 PM, Oriya's wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: Here's a comparison what is the difference between a hit man and a soldier, their both being paid to kill, yet it seems most people respect a soldier. Is jail a place someone goes because they don't do what the government wants them to do? isn't this social control? again why does it depend? |
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5/19/2012 4:11:18 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:10:38 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:06:05 PM, Oriya's wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: The State has a legitimate monopoly on violence. That is why. "Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil." |
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5/19/2012 4:12:30 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:08:48 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: So what crimes make a person lose the freedoms they once had? and what crimes shouldn't a person go to jail for? it should be a crime to put some one in jail? Depends on the crime. |
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5/19/2012 4:13:15 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:10:38 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:06:05 PM, Oriya's wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: I don't the state is going to arrest those they ordered to kill. That doesn't make much sense.... Open borders debate: http://www.debate.org... |
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5/19/2012 4:13:37 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:12:30 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:08:48 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: Again, depends. Littering for example does not meet criteria for jail time I believe. Depends on the crime. https://rekonomics.wordpress.com... "A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross |
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5/19/2012 4:14:03 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: If you want to have a stable society, you have to do something with people who try to destabilize it. Let's send criminals into space to mine asteroids. twocupcakes: 15 = 13 |
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5/19/2012 4:14:36 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:13:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:10:38 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:06:05 PM, Oriya's wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: fixed. Open borders debate: http://www.debate.org... |
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5/19/2012 4:20:26 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:11:18 PM, Lordly wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:10:38 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:06:05 PM, Oriya's wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: what is legitimate, anyway? If the state has this power, then the state is corrupt. why is it that the state has the power to strip people of there freedom and is aloud to ignore laws. if the state has legitimate reasons on mono violence, then why do they let it happen in prison, ie prison guards abuse prisoners, prisoners rape and abuse/murder each other. it is the state that is morally responsible for the criminal. another comparison, if you lock someone in your basement and they die... you are responsible for there death? if you lock them in your basement and someone come in a they kill them, you are reasonable for them. the state shouldn't have this power. the state must follow laws, but choose to break them. |
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5/19/2012 4:22:13 PM Posted: 6 years ago If you want to have a stable society, you have to do something with people who try to destabilize it. you do you think should be in custody for the criminal acts committed by society |
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5/19/2012 4:23:58 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:20:26 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:11:18 PM, Lordly wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:10:38 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:06:05 PM, Oriya's wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: If a state doesn't have a monopoly on coercion, it really ceases to become a state. If a state has no means to enforce laws then it isn't a state. Are you an anarchist? Open borders debate: http://www.debate.org... |
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5/19/2012 4:24:27 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:22:13 PM, oreostar wrote:If you want to have a stable society, you have to do something with people who try to destabilize it. What? Who do I think? What crimes? twocupcakes: 15 = 13 |
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5/19/2012 4:24:51 PM Posted: 6 years ago
they maybe should because some of them come back from war as huge murders? |
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5/19/2012 4:26:46 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:11:18 PM, Lordknukle wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:10:38 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:06:05 PM, Oriya's wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: I wouldn't say (at least in America) the state has a total monopoly on violence. People have a right to protect themselves. But I understand what you're saying. : : :Tulle: The fool, I purposely don't engage with you because you don't have proper command of the English language. : : : : The Fool: It's my English writing. Either way It's okay have a larger vocabulary then you, and a better grasp of language, and you're a woman. : : I'm just going to leave this precious struggle nugget right here. |
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5/19/2012 4:27:21 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:24:27 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:22:13 PM, oreostar wrote:If you want to have a stable society, you have to do something with people who try to destabilize it. who do you think should be responsible for placing custody of the criminal whom committed crimes |
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5/19/2012 4:27:32 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:24:51 PM, oreostar wrote: Seriously? You think Americans should be arrested for the potential to murder, which would include 300 million american citizens. Open borders debate: http://www.debate.org... |
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5/19/2012 4:28:18 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:26:46 PM, Oryus wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:11:18 PM, Lordknukle wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:10:38 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:06:05 PM, Oriya's wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:05:33 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:02:44 PM, oreostar wrote: It's not a matter of whether other people can commit violent acts, but the fact that the State is capable of any sort of violence. "Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil." |
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5/19/2012 4:32:13 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:27:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:24:51 PM, oreostar wrote: no I think the state and the American government are the products responsible for these murders. I also think think that the state and the American government are being moral and letting the corruption of American society happen. thus I believe that the state and the American government should not exist |
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5/19/2012 4:34:47 PM Posted: 6 years ago if they use this power to be responsible
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5/19/2012 4:35:18 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:34:47 PM, oreostar wrote: fixed sorry |
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5/19/2012 4:37:10 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:32:13 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:27:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:24:51 PM, oreostar wrote: So your anarchist-capitalistic? Which murders? Is the state responsible for state-sanctioned killing or non-state sanction killing? For non-state-sanctioned killing, how can a state be responsible for the actions of other people? What do you propose we should be done to stop murder from occurring? Open borders debate: http://www.debate.org... |
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5/19/2012 4:46:59 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:27:21 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:24:27 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:22:13 PM, oreostar wrote:If you want to have a stable society, you have to do something with people who try to destabilize it. who do you think should be responsible for placing custody of the criminal whom committed crimes Society, which delegates the power and responsibility through government. twocupcakes: 15 = 13 |
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5/19/2012 4:49:09 PM Posted: 6 years ago No one deserves anything. Good or bad. Reward and punishment are tools used to promote arbitrary goals.
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5/19/2012 4:49:59 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:49:09 PM, FREEDO wrote: Moral nihilist? Open borders debate: http://www.debate.org... |
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5/19/2012 4:53:14 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:37:10 PM, darkkermit wrote:I don't know what state-sanctioned killing or non-state sanction killing please explain?At 5/19/2012 4:32:13 PM, oreostar wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:27:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:24:51 PM, oreostar wrote: For non-state-sanctioned killing, how can a state be responsible for the actions of other people???? I try to answer this with my little knowledge of state laws in America. The state is responsible for the safety and egos of the criminals they put in there jails, just like parents are responsible for there children. many people in American jails are treated worse then slaves, slaves are at least taken care of by there owners for economical purposes. say a person go to jail in America for 5 years smoking a joint of marijuana, in jail he is raped, abused (by guards and prisoners) then comes out of jail worse then when he went in, ie murder material What do you propose we should be done to stop murder from occurring? I don't propose anything I think about what to do with murders, if I was free, then criminals whodunit exist in America. the justice system in America is corrupt and are moral responsible do you agree. by the way I don't like you political slurs on my political view, I'm not attacking you personally |
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5/19/2012 4:56:54 PM Posted: 6 years ago At 5/19/2012 4:49:59 PM, darkkermit wrote:At 5/19/2012 4:49:09 PM, FREEDO wrote: please stop attack people personally, its unjustified if your not contributing to this forum. also people please ignore these comments |