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Peepette
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2/12/2017 2:07:32 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Republican official Bill Akins addressing a town hall states that the ACA has death panels! When called upon the untruth he calls his audience children. Trumptonics is a contagious disease.

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Chaos88
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2/12/2017 3:19:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/12/2017 2:07:32 AM, Peepette wrote:
Republican official Bill Akins addressing a town hall states that the ACA has death panels! When called upon the untruth he calls his audience children. Trumptonics is a contagious disease.


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Of course the ACA, or any federal (or private) program, has death panels.

I work for Medicare, and we have denied coverage for medically necessary drugs due to criteria not being met, or even due to regulations. If the drug in question is life-saving, it can result in death.

This is what I think of when I hear "death panel".
Peepette
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2/12/2017 3:33:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/12/2017 3:19:44 AM, Chaos88 wrote:
At 2/12/2017 2:07:32 AM, Peepette wrote:
Republican official Bill Akins addressing a town hall states that the ACA has death panels! When called upon the untruth he calls his audience children. Trumptonics is a contagious disease.


http://littlegreenfootballs.com...

Of course the ACA, or any federal (or private) program, has death panels.

I work for Medicare, and we have denied coverage for medically necessary drugs due to criteria not being met, or even due to regulations. If the drug in question is life-saving, it can result in death.

This is what I think of when I hear "death panel".

What is the criteria? Are there alternative drugs? There is an appeal process in place for such denial of coverage or drugs. I was recently denied a MRI by my insurance; I'm not that old. I was told to seek alternative treatment then resubmit if treatment failed. It all worked out in the end, no need for the MRI, a chiropractor did the trick, which was covered.
Chaos88
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2/12/2017 3:42:49 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/12/2017 3:33:05 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 2/12/2017 3:19:44 AM, Chaos88 wrote:
At 2/12/2017 2:07:32 AM, Peepette wrote:
Republican official Bill Akins addressing a town hall states that the ACA has death panels! When called upon the untruth he calls his audience children. Trumptonics is a contagious disease.


http://littlegreenfootballs.com...

Of course the ACA, or any federal (or private) program, has death panels.

I work for Medicare, and we have denied coverage for medically necessary drugs due to criteria not being met, or even due to regulations. If the drug in question is life-saving, it can result in death.

This is what I think of when I hear "death panel".

What is the criteria? Are there alternative drugs? There is an appeal process in place for such denial of coverage or drugs. I was recently denied a MRI by my insurance; I'm not that old. I was told to seek alternative treatment then resubmit if treatment failed. It all worked out in the end, no need for the MRI, a chiropractor did the trick, which was covered.

It depends.
Some drugs are not covered, as a matter of law. For example, Viagra or Amour Thyroid.
Some drugs are not covered for a certain diagnosis, as a matter of law. For example, IIRC, tacrolimus for liver transplant, unknown cause of nausea for Zofran, or there was this one case that the doctor listed 45 drugs that failed for a diagnosis that was not supposed to treat the condition, but did.

The criteria can be something like lab results are not dire enough, or not recent enough. Or a specialist was not consulted. A scary one with very specific criteria is Zyvox.

For the most part, life and death are not on the line, and I assume doctor's exaggerate at times, but you could argue that denying a pain medication due to "chronic use" is a death sentence for a quality of life.

Yes, they have appeal rights, and they exercise them, of course. But, this is not only time (which in the interim conditions can deteriorate), but some will not matter, if it is a legal matter, such as CMS guideline requirements for evidence of effectiveness.
YYW
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2/12/2017 3:47:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/12/2017 2:07:32 AM, Peepette wrote:
Republican official Bill Akins addressing a town hall states that the ACA has death panels! When called upon the untruth he calls his audience children. Trumptonics is a contagious disease.


http://littlegreenfootballs.com...

Bill Atkins is among the most profoundly stupid people who has ever lived. He is a worthless disgraceful piece of human trash that should do the world a favor and exile himself from civilization.
Stymie13
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2/12/2017 3:42:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/12/2017 3:33:05 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 2/12/2017 3:19:44 AM, Chaos88 wrote:
At 2/12/2017 2:07:32 AM, Peepette wrote:
Republican official Bill Akins addressing a town hall states that the ACA has death panels! When called upon the untruth he calls his audience children. Trumptonics is a contagious disease.


http://littlegreenfootballs.com...

Of course the ACA, or any federal (or private) program, has death panels.

I work for Medicare, and we have denied coverage for medically necessary drugs due to criteria not being met, or even due to regulations. If the drug in question is life-saving, it can result in death.

This is what I think of when I hear "death panel".

What is the criteria? Are there alternative drugs? There is an appeal process in place for such denial of coverage or drugs. I was recently denied a MRI by my insurance; I'm not that old. I was told to seek alternative treatment then resubmit if treatment failed. It all worked out in the end, no need for the MRI, a chiropractor did the trick, which was covered.

Anecdotal ... and if you had an issue with your , no, not even going there.

I work in Medicaid, Medicare, and private. All use the correct coding index... CCI with few modifications. Know who writes it? AMA. Doctors.
slo1
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2/12/2017 5:56:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/12/2017 3:19:44 AM, Chaos88 wrote:
At 2/12/2017 2:07:32 AM, Peepette wrote:
Republican official Bill Akins addressing a town hall states that the ACA has death panels! When called upon the untruth he calls his audience children. Trumptonics is a contagious disease.


http://littlegreenfootballs.com...

Of course the ACA, or any federal (or private) program, has death panels.

I work for Medicare, and we have denied coverage for medically necessary drugs due to criteria not being met, or even due to regulations. If the drug in question is life-saving, it can result in death.

This is what I think of when I hear "death panel".

The person said that at age 74 Americans have to go in front of a death panel, so what he said is not the same as your "death panel".

Secondly your "death panel" senario happens in the private insurance markets. They deny life saving medications all the time.
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2/12/2017 7:50:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
tfw people are still making a big deal about the fact that Trump was incorrect during his inauguration about the amount of people present
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Chaos88
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2/13/2017 8:41:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/12/2017 5:56:05 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 2/12/2017 3:19:44 AM, Chaos88 wrote:
At 2/12/2017 2:07:32 AM, Peepette wrote:
Republican official Bill Akins addressing a town hall states that the ACA has death panels! When called upon the untruth he calls his audience children. Trumptonics is a contagious disease.


http://littlegreenfootballs.com...

Of course the ACA, or any federal (or private) program, has death panels.

I work for Medicare, and we have denied coverage for medically necessary drugs due to criteria not being met, or even due to regulations. If the drug in question is life-saving, it can result in death.

This is what I think of when I hear "death panel".

The person said that at age 74 Americans have to go in front of a death panel, so what he said is not the same as your "death panel".

He said "effectively a death panel", so I am not sure what he means by that, and it well could be the same thing. Doing a quick search of the text for either "seventy" or "74", I see no entry.

Secondly your "death panel" senario happens in the private insurance markets. They deny life saving medications all the time.

Obviously, which is why I said it does.
ironslippers
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2/13/2017 9:44:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
More Democrat delusions and hate agenda
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slo1
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2/13/2017 11:33:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/13/2017 8:41:43 PM, Chaos88 wrote:
At 2/12/2017 5:56:05 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 2/12/2017 3:19:44 AM, Chaos88 wrote:
At 2/12/2017 2:07:32 AM, Peepette wrote:
Republican official Bill Akins addressing a town hall states that the ACA has death panels! When called upon the untruth he calls his audience children. Trumptonics is a contagious disease.


http://littlegreenfootballs.com...

Of course the ACA, or any federal (or private) program, has death panels.

I work for Medicare, and we have denied coverage for medically necessary drugs due to criteria not being met, or even due to regulations. If the drug in question is life-saving, it can result in death.

This is what I think of when I hear "death panel".

The person said that at age 74 Americans have to go in front of a death panel, so what he said is not the same as your "death panel".

He said "effectively a death panel", so I am not sure what he means by that, and it well could be the same thing. Doing a quick search of the text for either "seventy" or "74", I see no entry.

Why are you searching text? Play the video. He says anyone over the age of 74 has to go in front of what is effectively a death panel.

Since he mentions age he is referring to a provision that was not included in the ACA that paid for seniors to voluntarily consult their doctor for end of life planning, which is very smart for anyone to do.

If he was referring to the board that sets approved treatments then he grossly lied about 74 year olds having to go in front of a death panel.

Secondly your "death panel" senario happens in the private insurance markets. They deny life saving medications all the time.

Obviously, which is why I said it does.

You said Medicare. Are you working for gov or a private company offering Medicare part D coverage? Either way there isn't a health insurer whether private, gov or self insured that has policy which does not deny coverage whether treatments or drugs that impacts mortality.

There should only be condemnation of these Republican lies.

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