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10/2/2017 6:40:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

And if he doesn't, we can just call him that anyway: he must have perverted any message he might have received from God or the scriptures, n'est pa?
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10/2/2017 6:43:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
And you believe his motives will be because of this affiliation expressly, like that's what an investigation is going to find?
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10/2/2017 7:12:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 6:40:03 PM, Ludofl3x wrote:
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

And if he doesn't, we can just call him that anyway: he must have perverted any message he might have received from God or the scriptures, n'est pa?

LOL! I see I'm not the only one that recognizes Ethan's intellectual dishonesty and pompous presumptuousness...
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10/2/2017 7:13:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 6:43:31 PM, Ludofl3x wrote:
And you believe his motives will be because of this affiliation expressly, like that's what an investigation is going to find?

Why not? He appears to believe that water can exist in liquid form on a molten infant planet...
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10/2/2017 7:15:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 6:43:31 PM, Ludofl3x wrote:

And you believe his motives will be because of this affiliation expressly, like that's what an investigation is going to find?

I said nothing about his motives, but we will learn for his history and his writings that he was a dyed in the wool atheist. How do I know this? He body isn't even cold yet.
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10/2/2017 7:25:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

A Democrat or Republican?

With all the leftist violence lately, it will be interesting to see if that hatred has spurred this kind of evil, or whether it was some twisted religious believer.

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10/2/2017 7:45:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

Their religious and/or political background is irrelevant.

Extremists of all types agree on one thing - The American Experiment has failed us.

HATE will destroy freedom regardless of the (religious and/or political) "motive".
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10/2/2017 7:45:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

Considering the target you might be right.
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10/2/2017 8:14:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 7:45:20 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

Considering the target you might be right.

As soon as I knew the target, the method, and the victims, I knew the shooter wasn't Islamic.

Now, will his atheism turn out to have influenced his act? If he had turned out to be a religious nut, atheists here would be crowing like roosters.

But just wait and watch as more of his history comes out.
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10/2/2017 8:35:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

His brother Eric, stated he had no religious or political affiliations, however ISIS claimed he converted to Islam a few months ago and they are taking responsibility.
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10/2/2017 9:24:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 7:45:20 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

Considering the target you might be right.

I don't see the connection. What is it about a shooting on a country music festival that would suggest an atheist shooter?
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10/2/2017 9:26:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 8:14:58 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 10/2/2017 7:45:20 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

Considering the target you might be right.

As soon as I knew the target, the method, and the victims, I knew the shooter wasn't Islamic.

How did you know that?
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10/3/2017 12:16:53 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 9:24:32 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 10/2/2017 7:45:20 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

Considering the target you might be right.

I don't see the connection. What is it about a shooting on a country music festival that would suggest an atheist shooter?

Atheists are militant jazz rock fans. One too many Dolly Parton covers pushed him over the edge.

Unless he left a suicide note we'll never know. There's no news of one, AFAIK.
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10/3/2017 1:48:06 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Far be it from me to get in the way of someone using a recent, horrible tragedy to make a petty and retaliatory speculation, but the shooter's father, as it turns out, was a diagnosed psychopath with suicidal tendencies:

https://www.aol.com...
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10/3/2017 2:16:26 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 1:48:06 AM, Fly wrote:
Far be it from me to get in the way of someone using a recent, horrible tragedy to make a petty and retaliatory speculation, but the shooter's father, as it turns out, was a diagnosed psychopath with suicidal tendencies:

https://www.aol.com...

His relatives don't make it sound like they saw any warning signs at all. It's scary how unaware we can be of when a human being is reaching a catastrophic breaking point.
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10/3/2017 2:44:35 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 2:16:26 AM, Casten wrote:
At 10/3/2017 1:48:06 AM, Fly wrote:
Far be it from me to get in the way of someone using a recent, horrible tragedy to make a petty and retaliatory speculation, but the shooter's father, as it turns out, was a diagnosed psychopath with suicidal tendencies:

https://www.aol.com...

His relatives don't make it sound like they saw any warning signs at all. It's scary how unaware we can be of when a human being is reaching a catastrophic breaking point.

Especially a financially secure 64 year old. People will be working around the clock to find some telling pattern in his life. I read that this is mass shooting #1,518 since Sandy Hook-- mass shootings being 4+ fatalities, I think. It's a shocking stat...

At least crime is trending down overall since 1990... all too easy to forget with this sh!t happening...
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10/3/2017 3:09:07 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 2:44:35 AM, Fly wrote:
At 10/3/2017 2:16:26 AM, Casten wrote:
At 10/3/2017 1:48:06 AM, Fly wrote:
Far be it from me to get in the way of someone using a recent, horrible tragedy to make a petty and retaliatory speculation, but the shooter's father, as it turns out, was a diagnosed psychopath with suicidal tendencies:

https://www.aol.com...

His relatives don't make it sound like they saw any warning signs at all. It's scary how unaware we can be of when a human being is reaching a catastrophic breaking point.

Especially a financially secure 64 year old. People will be working around the clock to find some telling pattern in his life. I read that this is mass shooting #1,518 since Sandy Hook-- mass shootings being 4+ fatalities, I think. It's a shocking stat...

At least crime is trending down overall since 1990... all too easy to forget with this sh!t happening...

I'm not confident he was 'financially secure'. His dad 'made' lots of money, and if there is one place in the world that isn't gonna bat an eye about cash on the table, its Vegas. Who is to say his money didn't run out that pa gave him, and he was pissed at Vegas in general for taking it?
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10/3/2017 6:41:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 9:26:17 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 10/2/2017 8:14:58 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 10/2/2017 7:45:20 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

Considering the target you might be right.

As soon as I knew the target, the method, and the victims, I knew the shooter wasn't Islamic.

How did you know that?

Odds mostly. Islamic terrorists just dont do it that way.
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10/3/2017 7:20:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I wonder how many massacres it will take before the USofA wakes up to the fact that allowing everyone to own guns is CRAZY? I have said it before but will say it again, thank goodness I live in the UK where guns are not permitted for personal protection.
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10/3/2017 7:28:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 7:20:49 AM, Yongy wrote:
I wonder how many massacres it will take before the USofA wakes up to the fact that allowing everyone to own guns is CRAZY? I have said it before but will say it again, thank goodness I live in the UK where guns are not permitted for personal protection.

You're right. It's better if only the chosen race owns guns....
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10/3/2017 7:45:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 7:28:32 AM, skipsaweirdo wrote:
At 10/3/2017 7:20:49 AM, Yongy wrote:
I wonder how many massacres it will take before the USofA wakes up to the fact that allowing everyone to own guns is CRAZY? I have said it before but will say it again, thank goodness I live in the UK where guns are not permitted for personal protection.

You're right. It's better if only the chosen race owns guns....

Ehhhhhhhhhhh?
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10/3/2017 8:01:31 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 1:48:06 AM, Fly wrote:

Far be it from me to get in the way of someone using a recent, horrible tragedy to make a petty and retaliatory speculation,....

Apparently, "far" for you can be measured in inches. What do you want to bet Gentle Reader, that fly didnt think calling Hitler a Christian was petty and retaliatory?

....but the shooter's father, as it turns out, was a diagnosed psychopath with suicidal tendencies:

https://www.aol.com...

Which makes it more likely that the father was atheist, and therefore more likely that young Stephen grew up with the same unfocused anger and bitterness we see on our site so often.
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10/3/2017 8:09:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 8:01:31 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 10/3/2017 1:48:06 AM, Fly wrote:

Far be it from me to get in the way of someone using a recent, horrible tragedy to make a petty and retaliatory speculation,....

Apparently, "far" for you can be measured in inches. What do you want to bet Gentle Reader, that fly didnt think calling Hitler a Christian was petty and retaliatory?

....but the shooter's father, as it turns out, was a diagnosed psychopath with suicidal tendencies:

https://www.aol.com...

Which makes it more likely that the father was atheist, and therefore more likely that young Stephen grew up with the same unfocused anger and bitterness we see on our site so often.

You are STUPID! Religion has been responsible for many terrible atrocities over the centuries.
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10/3/2017 8:58:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

Just curious, what would you say if this turned out to be a Christian or any other religious affiliation?
"Hate begets hate"
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10/3/2017 9:43:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 8:09:00 AM, Yongy wrote:
At 10/3/2017 8:01:31 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 10/3/2017 1:48:06 AM, Fly wrote:

Far be it from me to get in the way of someone using a recent, horrible tragedy to make a petty and retaliatory speculation,....

Apparently, "far" for you can be measured in inches. What do you want to bet Gentle Reader, that fly didnt think calling Hitler a Christian was petty and retaliatory?

....but the shooter's father, as it turns out, was a diagnosed psychopath with suicidal tendencies:

https://www.aol.com...

Which makes it more likely that the father was atheist, and therefore more likely that young Stephen grew up with the same unfocused anger and bitterness we see on our site so often.

You are STUPID! Religion has been responsible for many terrible atrocities over the centuries.

And to what do we attribute the millions killed in communist China and Stalinist Russia? How about the thousands killed in cambodia?

Or even the losers in America who ask their brave victims if they are Christian before, like the cowards they are, shooting the ones who answer in the affirmative?

I just wish I run into one of those losers one day. I'll give them irrefutable evidence of God.
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10/3/2017 9:44:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 9:43:00 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 10/3/2017 8:09:00 AM, Yongy wrote:
At 10/3/2017 8:01:31 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 10/3/2017 1:48:06 AM, Fly wrote:

Far be it from me to get in the way of someone using a recent, horrible tragedy to make a petty and retaliatory speculation,....

Apparently, "far" for you can be measured in inches. What do you want to bet Gentle Reader, that fly didnt think calling Hitler a Christian was petty and retaliatory?

....but the shooter's father, as it turns out, was a diagnosed psychopath with suicidal tendencies:

https://www.aol.com...

Which makes it more likely that the father was atheist, and therefore more likely that young Stephen grew up with the same unfocused anger and bitterness we see on our site so often.

You are STUPID! Religion has been responsible for many terrible atrocities over the centuries.

And to what do we attribute the millions killed in communist China and Stalinist Russia? How about the thousands killed in cambodia?

Or even the losers in America who ask their brave victims if they are Christian before, like the cowards they are, shooting the ones who answer in the affirmative?

I just wish I run into one of those losers one day. I'll give them irrefutable evidence of God.

You are a liar if you say you have irrefutable evidence of god!
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10/3/2017 9:47:10 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 8:58:29 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 10/2/2017 6:38:11 PM, ethang5 wrote:
Will turn out to be an atheist of the militant stripe.

just saying.

Just curious, what would you say if this turned out to be a Christian or any other religious affiliation?

Unfair question. He couldn't possibly be a christian. Your question is like asking what if the animal that can breathe underwater turned put to be a bird?

Hes an atheist. A militant one. Wait and see.
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10/3/2017 9:51:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/3/2017 8:01:31 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 10/3/2017 1:48:06 AM, Fly wrote:

Far be it from me to get in the way of someone using a recent, horrible tragedy to make a petty and retaliatory speculation,....

Apparently, "far" for you can be measured in inches. What do you want to bet Gentle Reader, that fly didnt think calling Hitler a Christian was petty and retaliatory?

....but the shooter's father, as it turns out, was a diagnosed psychopath with suicidal tendencies:

https://www.aol.com...

Which makes it more likely that the father was atheist, and therefore more likely that young Stephen grew up with the same unfocused anger and bitterness we see on our site so often.

Doesn't fit the profile.

No Twitter, no facebook, no manifesto, no known vices (beyond gambling), far to much money. If it surfaces, great, but to say anything about his religion or political ideology is hopeful speculation on your part at this time.
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10/3/2017 10:04:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Statistically speaking I suspect more crimes over the centuries have been committed by religious people than atheists. Hitler was supposed to be a Christian, wasn't he?

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