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12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I like to start by apologizing to everyone who had their threads hijacked by the repetitive exchanges between Ethang5 and Harikrish. It should be obvious to everyone on the religion forum the question: 'What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?' was legitimate.

The religious forum is the right place to discuss the religious exploitation of humanity. The role of Christianity in African slavery is rather unique. Most religions allowed slavery based on economic and monetary reasons. But slaves were never targeted because of their skin colour alone. This all changed when Christians justified their targeting of Africans based on scriptures and skin colour. The continued discrimination of Africans are purely on skin colour.

There is a UNESCO study on the impact of slavery on the dark continent. What would be edifying to members on DDO is to hear Christians express their opinions on this subject and also those who feel indignation by this unjustifiable act of inhumanity against a people of negroid ancestry.

What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?

Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East. Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.

For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.

In the Genesis passage, Africans were said to be the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah, who was cursed by his father after looking at his naked form. Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cushites' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.

In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans. In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.

The Trans-Atlantic Slave a Trade.

"In fact, for almost 150 years, Ghana, on Africa"s west coast, was the center of the British slave trade. Western traders arrived in ships loaded with manufactured goods to barter or trade for slaves. Those who were sold had often been captured in tribal warfare; some had simply been kidnapped to sell to European slave traders.

it is estimated from as many as 20 million West Africans were captured between the end of 15th century until 1870 (when the slave trade was abolished). Only half of them survived the harsh conditions on the voyages " and 10 million of them actually made it to the Americas.

Ghana's role in the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.

Ghanaians, it seems, view the Trans-Atlantic slave trade as an unfortunate historical human calamity which must not be allowed to happen again.
But the question is how many Ghanaians are truly aware of the role people living within that part of the continent at the time played in the actual act of capturing and selling their own people in return for things such as gunpowder and kola? The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and Ghana, an exhibition mounted as an attempt to educate the public on the historical occurrence of the slave trade, is currently on at the National Museum in Accra.

Not only is there evidence of some 35 slave markets dotted around the area in West Africa where Ghana is situated, there are also many routes, transit camps and objects available to establish that the trade took place under horrendous conditions. Several of these transit camps and markets have been identified within the area where Ghana is currently situated. And some of these inland sites are characterised by water cisterns, remnants of slave warehouses, rock boulders and trees with large or long exposed roots for chaining the enslaved. Burial grounds for slaves, and their ancestors as well as their masters are still visible at places like Salaga, Saakpuli and Kafaba in the Northern part of Ghana. Other places include Assin Manso and Effutu in the Central Region area, and Atorkor, Peki Dzake and Adafianu in Anloland.

The shaming of Africans.

Christianity played a major role in African slavery. But it was the Afticans themselves who made it possible and supplied the slaves. Their complicity and brutality in creating the dehumanizing conditions and treatment of captured Africans in slave camps betrayed the innate jungle culture that the world witnesses as uniquely African. This archetypal jungle behaviour is pervasive throughout African history and has earned Africa the distinction of being the dark continent and the negroid Africans identified as being of sub-human ancestry.

"The forts and castles which started as European trading posts later becoming dungeons and slave auction areas which dot along the coast of Ghana even till today, don't give the whole picture.

This exhibition tackles the story of the slave trade from another more important angle which has, hitherto, not been told much. It tells how deeply African chiefs and kings themselves were involved in the trading, ordering raids and kidnaping, and arranged markets where the captured were sold. Toward the end of the 17th century and in the first few decades of the 18th, slave raiding and kidnaping became the major occupation among the Akwamu, Akyem, Kwahu, Krepi and Fante in the southern part of the Gold Coast and among all the major ethnic groups in the northern part of the country. It tells how those captured had to walk several kilometres under brutal conditions. Chained to each other with neck to hands iron shackles, they only got to rest at transit camps before arriving at the markets. Their new masters would then distinguished them from each other by marking them with branding irons which were put in fire to become red hot before they were stamped on specific parts of their body.

Many of the original iron shackles, some specially made for children, and the branding irons with inscriptions like ITA and GHC are in this exhibition. Also on display are recent colour photographs of many of the transit camps and markets as they look today."

10 Conservatives Who Have Praised American Slavery
Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard has deemed slavery a blessing. His position is not as uncommon as you'd think.

https://www.alternet.org...
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12/4/2017 5:26:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:
I like to start by apologizing to everyone who had their threads hijacked by the repetitive exchanges between Ethang5 and Harikrish. It should be obvious to everyone on the religion forum the question: 'What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?' was legitimate.

The religious forum is the right place to discuss the religious exploitation of humanity. The role of Christianity in African slavery is rather unique. Most religions allowed slavery based on economic and monetary reasons. But slaves were never targeted because of their skin colour alone. This all changed when Christians justified their targeting of Africans based on scriptures and skin colour. The continued discrimination of Africans are purely on skin colour.

There is a UNESCO study on the impact of slavery on the dark continent. What would be edifying to members on DDO is to hear Christians express their opinions on this subject and also those who feel indignation by this unjustifiable act of inhumanity against a people of negroid ancestry.

What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?

Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East. Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.

For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.

In the Genesis passage, Africans were said to be the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah, who was cursed by his father after looking at his naked form. Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cushites' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.

In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans. In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.


The Trans-Atlantic Slave a Trade.

"In fact, for almost 150 years, Ghana, on Africa"s west coast, was the center of the British slave trade. Western traders arrived in ships loaded with manufactured goods to barter or trade for slaves. Those who were sold had often been captured in tribal warfare; some had simply been kidnapped to sell to European slave traders.

it is estimated from as many as 20 million West Africans were captured between the end of 15th century until 1870 (when the slave trade was abolished). Only half of them survived the harsh conditions on the voyages " and 10 million of them actually made it to the Americas.

Ghana's role in the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.

Ghanaians, it seems, view the Trans-Atlantic slave trade as an unfortunate historical human calamity which must not be allowed to happen again.
But the question is how many Ghanaians are truly aware of the role people living within that part of the continent at the time played in the actual act of capturing and selling their own people in return for things such as gunpowder and kola? The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and Ghana, an exhibition mounted as an attempt to educate the public on the historical occurrence of the slave trade, is currently on at the National Museum in Accra.

Not only is there evidence of some 35 slave markets dotted around the area in West Africa where Ghana is situated, there are also many routes, transit camps and objects available to establish that the trade took place under horrendous conditions. Several of these transit camps and markets have been identified within the area where Ghana is currently situated. And some of these inland sites are characterised by water cisterns, remnants of slave warehouses, rock boulders and trees with large or long exposed roots for chaining the enslaved. Burial grounds for slaves, and their ancestors as well as their masters are still visible at places like Salaga, Saakpuli and Kafaba in the Northern part of Ghana. Other places include Assin Manso and Effutu in the Central Region area, and Atorkor, Peki Dzake and Adafianu in Anloland.

The shaming of Africans.

Christianity played a major role in African slavery. But it was the Afticans themselves who made it possible and supplied the slaves. Their complicity and brutality in creating the dehumanizing conditions and treatment of captured Africans in slave camps betrayed the innate jungle culture that the world witnesses as uniquely African. This archetypal jungle behaviour is pervasive throughout African history and has earned Africa the distinction of being the dark continent and the negroid Africans identified as being of sub-human ancestry.

"The forts and castles which started as European trading posts later becoming dungeons and slave auction areas which dot along the coast of Ghana even till today, don't give the whole picture.

This exhibition tackles the story of the slave trade from another more important angle which has, hitherto, not been told much. It tells how deeply African chiefs and kings themselves were involved in the trading, ordering raids and kidnaping, and arranged markets where the captured were sold. Toward the end of the 17th century and in the first few decades of the 18th, slave raiding and kidnaping became the major occupation among the Akwamu, Akyem, Kwahu, Krepi and Fante in the southern part of the Gold Coast and among all the major ethnic groups in the northern part of the country. It tells how those captured had to walk several kilometres under brutal conditions. Chained to each other with neck to hands iron shackles, they only got to rest at transit camps before arriving at the markets. Their new masters would then distinguished them from each other by marking them with branding irons which were put in fire to become red hot before they were stamped on specific parts of their body.

Many of the original iron shackles, some specially made for children, and the branding irons with inscriptions like ITA and GHC are in this exhibition. Also on display are recent colour photographs of many of the transit camps and markets as they look today."

10 Conservatives Who Have Praised American Slavery
Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard has deemed slavery a blessing. His position is not as uncommon as you'd think.

https://www.alternet.org...

Not only was Christianity a crux to see slavery as acceptable... Black people themselves made a business out of selling their own kind. It's funny how it all gets blamed on "white people" when religion... even Islam, and black people themselves where to blame. Every ethnicity has been a slave in one time or another... but only black people still hold blame to white people today. It's kinda sad they can't hold themselves and their belief accountable fo
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12/4/2017 6:59:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I have heard you say:

- Africans were better off under their white slavemasters.
- Nothing of worth ever comes out of Africa.
- Africans are incapable of getting their sh*t together because they are mentally subnormal.
- You wouldn't let an African slave into your home because they're dirty, which is why they're kept in cages.
- More racist crap than I care to recall.

It just sounds like classic trolling to me, trying to say the most outrageous things possible, but even if it's not trolling, the question remains: why should I listen to anything you have to say about race?
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12/4/2017 4:20:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/4/2017 5:26:00 AM, Outplayz wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:
I like to start by apologizing to everyone who had their threads hijacked by the repetitive exchanges between Ethang5 and Harikrish. It should be obvious to everyone on the religion forum the question: 'What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?' was legitimate.
The religious forum is the right place to discuss the religious exploitation of humanity. The role of Christianity in African slavery is rather unique. Most religions allowed slavery based on economic and monetary reasons. But slaves were never targeted because of their skin colour alone. This all changed when Christians justified their targeting of Africans based on scriptures and skin colour. The continued discrimination of Africans are purely on skin colour.
There is a UNESCO study on the impact of slavery on the dark continent. What would be edifying to members on DDO is to hear Christians express their opinions on this subject and also those who feel indignation by this unjustifiable act of inhumanity against a people of negroid ancestry.
What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?
Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East. Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.
For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.
In the Genesis passage, Africans were said to be the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah, who was cursed by his father after looking at his naked form. Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cushites' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.
In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans. In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.
The Trans-Atlantic Slave a Trade.
"In fact, for almost 150 years, Ghana, on Africa"s west coast, was the center of the British slave trade. Western traders arrived in ships loaded with manufactured goods to barter or trade for slaves. Those who were sold had often been captured in tribal warfare; some had simply been kidnapped to sell to European slave traders.
it is estimated from as many as 20 million West Africans were captured between the end of 15th century until 1870 (when the slave trade was abolished). Only half of them survived the harsh conditions on the voyages " and 10 million of them actually made it to the Americas.
Ghana's role in the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.
Ghanaians, it seems, view the Trans-Atlantic slave trade as an unfortunate historical human calamity which must not be allowed to happen again.
But the question is how many Ghanaians are truly aware of the role people living within that part of the continent at the time played in the actual act of capturing and selling their own people in return for things such as gunpowder and kola? The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and Ghana, an exhibition mounted as an attempt to educate the public on the historical occurrence of the slave trade, is currently on at the National Museum in Accra.
Not only is there evidence of some 35 slave markets dotted around the area in West Africa where Ghana is situated, there are also many routes, transit camps and objects available to establish that the trade took place under horrendous conditions. Several of these transit camps and markets have been identified within the area where Ghana is currently situated. And some of these inland sites are characterised by water cisterns, remnants of slave warehouses, rock boulders and trees with large or long exposed roots for chaining the enslaved. Burial grounds for slaves, and their ancestors as well as their masters are still visible at places like Salaga, Saakpuli and Kafaba in the Northern part of Ghana. Other places include Assin Manso and Effutu in the Central Region area, and Atorkor, Peki Dzake and Adafianu in Anloland.
The shaming of Africans.
Christianity played a major role in African slavery. But it was the Afticans themselves who made it possible and supplied the slaves. Their complicity and brutality in creating the dehumanizing conditions and treatment of captured Africans in slave camps betrayed the innate jungle culture that the world witnesses as uniquely African. This archetypal jungle behaviour is pervasive throughout African history and has earned Africa the distinction of being the dark continent and the negroid Africans identified as being of sub-human ancestry.
"The forts and castles which started as European trading posts later becoming dungeons and slave auction areas which dot along the coast of Ghana even till today, don't give the whole picture.
This exhibition tackles the story of the slave trade from another more important angle which has, hitherto, not been told much. It tells how deeply African chiefs and kings themselves were involved in the trading, ordering raids and kidnaping, and arranged markets where the captured were sold. Toward the end of the 17th century and in the first few decades of the 18th, slave raiding and kidnaping became the major occupation among the Akwamu, Akyem, Kwahu, Krepi and Fante in the southern part of the Gold Coast and among all the major ethnic groups in the northern part of the country. It tells how those captured had to walk several kilometres under brutal conditions. Chained to each other with neck to hands iron shackles, they only got to rest at transit camps before arriving at the markets. Their new masters would then distinguished them from each other by marking them with branding irons which were put in fire to become red hot before they were stamped on specific parts of their body.
10 Conservatives Who Have Praised American Slavery
Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard has deemed slavery a blessing. His position is not as uncommon as you'd think.
https://www.alternet.org...

Not only was Christianity a crux to see slavery as acceptable... Black people themselves made a business out of selling their own kind. It's funny how it all gets blamed on "white people" when religion... even Islam, and black people themselves where to blame. Every ethnicity has been a slave in one time or another... but only black people still hold blame to white people today. It's kinda sad they can't hold themselves and their belief accountable for....
Indiscriminately selling their people as slaves to Europeans.
Thank you for responding to my OP. Do you agree with the conservatives?
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12/4/2017 5:30:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/4/2017 6:59:57 AM, Casten wrote:
I have heard you say:

- Africans were better off under their white slavemasters.
- Nothing of worth ever comes out of Africa.
- Africans are incapable of getting their sh*t together because they are mentally subnormal.
- You wouldn't let an African slave into your home because they're dirty, which is why they're kept in cages.
- More racist crap than I care to recall.

It just sounds like classic trolling to me, trying to say the most outrageous things possible, but even if it's not trolling, the question remains: why should I listen to anything you have to say about race?

The OP is not a subject on race. It is the role Christianity played in African slavery. Your opinion as an atheist would be greatly appreciated because Christians have supported African slavery for biblical reasons(Africans are descendants of a cursed people) and even justified slavery was not so bad because the African slaves were better off as slaves than running around naked in the jungles of Africa. Remember Africa was noted for it wild life fauna. It proved great sport for hunters. Slavery was just another way to clear the jungle of Africans getting in the way of this popular sport for Europeans.

It is possible the local Afticans agreed with the white tourists and saw the win win outcome of exporting captures Africans as slaves to Europeans.

Some of the points you raised have been answered in the OP.

I will try to deal with those that need an explanation.
1. Nothing of worth ever comes out of Africa.

Ethang5 was upset when I said nothing good ever came out of Africa.

Here is what my research produced. The only thing that came out of Africa for 4 centuries were African slaves of negroid ancestry. Even to this day no major invention or contribution to advancing the human race in science, technology, medicine, literature, has come out of Africa. Africa's primary exports are what is dug out of the ground. Africans were more productive then as slaves because they were trained to be good cotton pickers and also learnt to grow things on farms.

2. Africans are incapable of getting their sh*t together because they are mentally subnormal.

I did not say Africsns were mentally subnormal.. That was part of the Christian justification. But I did highlight the UN report prediction 20 million Africans along with Yemenies will die of starvation in the near future. I also showed pictures of African skaves who looked healthier and happier then that the Africans today who are plagued by diseases, droughts, famines and dying from starvation. It is not hard to rationalize against this current developments that Africans might actually feel they were better of then as slaves and would blame their white Christian masters for leaving. This sentiment was echoed by 10 American conservatives.

3. You wouldn't let an African slave into your home because they're dirty, which is why they're kept in cages.

This was in response to Ethang5's attack on a Dacs Branch Manager he googled who happened to have the name Hari Krish (note the space in the name) He then started making lewed sexual advances at the Branch Managers aging elderly mother. He called the man gay and a pedophile attracted to African boys. This was so unwarranted, picking a total stranger from the Internet and subjecting this fantom Indian to his most perverted fantasies.
I responded by defending the honour of thus stranger as anyone would with this:
Ethang5, You are the one editing my posts and changing it to distort my qualifications. Then you go chasing some Dacs Branch manager's aging elderly mother you got off the internet while you were searching for white porn. How desperate can you be?

Why Africans like Asian women and white women?
Look at your African choices.

http://talkofnaija.com...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk...

http://themockdock.com...

https://pbs.twimg.com...

https://southafricatoday.net...

https://i.pinimg.com...

I continued to defend the honour of an aging eldearly Hindu mother.
Ethang5, How desperate are you to imagine a married elderly Hindu woman would want anything to do with Africans who accepted slavery for 4 centuries. African slaves were treated worse that animals. Get real Ethang5. Hindus believe Africans are cursed because of their bad Karma. They are lower than animals. They were slaves for 4 centuries.
Hindus are not permitted to own African slaves.

Look at how Africans were treated for 4 centuries. 4 centuries of African slavery has left a permanent stamp in your head which psychologist say is the equivalent of a white Christian masters footprint. It is called the indelible stamp of their white Christian masters. This is why nothing good comes out of Africa.

Africans slaves were treated worse than Animals.
https://i.pinimg.com...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com...

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net...

http://marianeibrahim.com...

Africans live in cages.
https://jtf.org...

Harikrish is the most spiritual member on DDO. He uses scriptures to defend and Challenge Christians. Likewise he used citations and pictures of Africans past and present to draw attention to the role Christianity played in African slavery with the objective goal of measuring the impact slavery had on Africsns today.

It has not gone as planned. Everyone can see Ethang5 went beserk when I found out he lives in Ghana. Ghana happens to be the centre of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. Ghanians played a major role in the export of African slaves. Some 20 million African slaves were captured send exported from Ghanian ports.

No one should be surprised Ethang5 has tried to hijack my posts by repeatedly accusing me of being a racist and attacking Hindus in retaliation for my post questioning the role Christianity played in African slavery hoping to silence me.

I responded with measured restraint. Ethang5 You have attacked Hindus for being cowardly by not defending its country against the Muslims and Britishs. But those periods in our history did not stop us from contributing to the advancement of science, mathematics. The Hindus did not sell out their people like the Africans did. Africans were selling their own negroid race into slavery and Ghana was the leading centre for the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. 20 million African slaves were shipped out of Ghana alone.
Now compare India's contribution with Africa's 4 centuries supply of negroid slaves for export and see who should be ashamed.

List of 16 contributions, made by ancient Indians to the world of science and technology, that will make you feel proud to be an Indian.
https://www.thebetterindia.com...

Thank you for responding to my OP.
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12/4/2017 5:53:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Christians have done plenty of unsavory things and justified it by some misinterpretations of scripture but scripture itself is not to blame for it.
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12/4/2017 6:24:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/4/2017 5:53:34 PM, rnjs wrote:
Christians have done plenty of unsavory things and justified it by some misinterpretations of scripture but scripture itself is not to blame for it.

As a biblical scholar I agree the scriptures do not offer justification for slavery. People have taken Moses words about the treatment of slave out of context. After all Jews he was liberating were slaves in Egypt.

Thank you for responding to a very dark period in human history besides the Catholic inquisition.
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12/4/2017 7:37:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/4/2017 4:20:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 5:26:00 AM, Outplayz wrote:
Not only was Christianity a crux to see slavery as acceptable... Black people themselves made a business out of selling their own kind. It's funny how it all gets blamed on "white people" when religion... even Islam, and black people themselves where to blame. Every ethnicity has been a slave in one time or another... but only black people still hold blame to white people today. It's kinda sad they can't hold themselves and their belief accountable for....
Indiscriminately selling their people as slaves to Europeans.
Thank you for responding to my OP. Do you agree with the conservatives?

Do you mean do i agree with the Bible... yes and no. I don't believe in it as a religion. But, does it have spiritual teaching? I think some of it was inspired by spiritual people.
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12/4/2017 7:46:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

Christianity is indifferent to political systems and economic systems. Christianity was used to defend segregation, and it was used to defend integration, when in fact Christianity is unconcerned with either one. Likewise with slavery.

If I could venture a guess, I'd guessimate that 95% of all of slaves on the ocean en route at any given time were put there - either traded or sold - by their own people. Therefore (if true), apparently the negroes themselves were big supporters of slavery at one time. Add oddly enough, the descendants of the negroes who were shipped off are infinitely better off than the descendants of the negroes who traded/sold them in the first place. I'm not saying that they are better off due to their own initiative and productivity, but nonetheless they are better off.
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12/4/2017 8:18:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:
I like to start by apologizing to everyone who had their threads hijacked by the repetitive exchanges between Ethang5 and Harikrish. It should be obvious to everyone on the religion forum the question: 'What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?' was legitimate.

The religious forum is the right place to discuss the religious exploitation of humanity. The role of Christianity in African slavery is rather unique. Most religions allowed slavery based on economic and monetary reasons. But slaves were never targeted because of their skin colour alone. This all changed when Christians justified their targeting of Africans based on scriptures and skin colour. The continued discrimination of Africans are purely on skin colour.

There is a UNESCO study on the impact of slavery on the dark continent. What would be edifying to members on DDO is to hear Christians express their opinions on this subject and also those who feel indignation by this unjustifiable act of inhumanity against a people of negroid ancestry.

What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?

Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East. Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.

For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.

In the Genesis passage, Africans were said to be the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah, who was cursed by his father after looking at his naked form. Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cushites' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.

In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans. In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.


The Trans-Atlantic Slave a Trade.

"In fact, for almost 150 years, Ghana, on Africa"s west coast, was the center of the British slave trade. Western traders arrived in ships loaded with manufactured goods to barter or trade for slaves. Those who were sold had often been captured in tribal warfare; some had simply been kidnapped to sell to European slave traders.

it is estimated from as many as 20 million West Africans were captured between the end of 15th century until 1870 (when the slave trade was abolished). Only half of them survived the harsh conditions on the voyages " and 10 million of them actually made it to the Americas.

Ghana's role in the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.

Ghanaians, it seems, view the Trans-Atlantic slave trade as an unfortunate historical human calamity which must not be allowed to happen again.
But the question is how many Ghanaians are truly aware of the role people living within that part of the continent at the time played in the actual act of capturing and selling their own people in return for things such as gunpowder and kola? The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and Ghana, an exhibition mounted as an attempt to educate the public on the historical occurrence of the slave trade, is currently on at the National Museum in Accra.

Not only is there evidence of some 35 slave markets dotted around the area in West Africa where Ghana is situated, there are also many routes, transit camps and objects available to establish that the trade took place under horrendous conditions. Several of these transit camps and markets have been identified within the area where Ghana is currently situated. And some of these inland sites are characterised by water cisterns, remnants of slave warehouses, rock boulders and trees with large or long exposed roots for chaining the enslaved. Burial grounds for slaves, and their ancestors as well as their masters are still visible at places like Salaga, Saakpuli and Kafaba in the Northern part of Ghana. Other places include Assin Manso and Effutu in the Central Region area, and Atorkor, Peki Dzake and Adafianu in Anloland.

The shaming of Africans.

Christianity played a major role in African slavery. But it was the Afticans themselves who made it possible and supplied the slaves. Their complicity and brutality in creating the dehumanizing conditions and treatment of captured Africans in slave camps betrayed the innate jungle culture that the world witnesses as uniquely African. This archetypal jungle behaviour is pervasive throughout African history and has earned Africa the distinction of being the dark continent and the negroid Africans identified as being of sub-human ancestry.

"The forts and castles which started as European trading posts later becoming dungeons and slave auction areas which dot along the coast of Ghana even till today, don't give the whole picture.
, Krepi and Fante in the southern part of the Gold Coast and among all the major ethnic groups in the northern part of the country. It tells how those captured had to walk several kilometres under brutal conditions. Chained to each other with neck to hands iron shackles, they only got to rest at transit camps before arriving at the markets. Their new masters would then distinguished them from each other by marking them with branding irons which were put in fire to become red hot before they were stamped on specific parts of their body.

Many of the original iron shackles, some specially made for children, and the branding irons with inscriptions like ITA and GHC are in this exhibition. Also on display are recent colour photographs of many of the transit camps and markets as they look today."

10 Conservatives Who Have Praised American Slavery
Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard has deemed slavery a blessing. His position is not as uncommon as you'd think.

https://www.alternet.org...
Give me a proof from quran and prophet muhammed pbuh life that promotes for slavery? And let us analyze it if they are correct or not
When islam came 1400 years ago to those who dont know about islam, islam conducted a system to eradicate slavery , and when the prophet died after 23 years of preaching there was only few slaves left that was 1400 years ago when westren and other societies were in the dark ages
And every one knows that the westren society the just got rid of slavery 100 years ago
So islam has nothing to do with slavery , people in the middle east weather muslims or non muslims when they do these actions please dont pin them to islam unless you have a proof.
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12/4/2017 8:53:01 PM
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At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:
In the Genesis passage, Africans were said to be the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah, who was cursed by his father after looking at his naked form. Moreover, in Genesis

The problem is, Bible doesn"t use word African. And it doesn"t see m to speak about black people. All we have is the interpretation that can be wrong.
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At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

I think all this stuff demostrates is that making money is more important than religious doctrine. People are very good at ignoring dogma when it is inconvenient - it suddenly becomes 'symbolic' or 'metaphorical'. I don't think the Europeans enslaved Africans on the basis of Genesis 9: 24-27 - they did it because Africa was a rich vein of cheap slave labour. Humans in dominant cultures have enslaved humans from weaker cultures since we came down frim the trees... all that was new was the scale, made possible by the industrialisation of Europe.

i don't think religious dogma and doctrine is a powerful force in history - I think it is is more that dogma and doctrine is coninually being reshaped to serve the needs of the moment.
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At 12/4/2017 7:37:10 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:20:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 5:26:00 AM, Outplayz wrote:
Not only was Christianity a crux to see slavery as acceptable... Black people themselves made a business out of selling their own kind. It's funny how it all gets blamed on "white people" when religion... even Islam, and black people themselves where to blame. Every ethnicity has been a slave in one time or another... but only black people still hold blame to white people today. It's kinda sad they can't hold themselves and their belief accountable for....
Indiscriminately selling their people as slaves to Europeans.
Thank you for responding to my OP. Do you agree with the conservatives?

Do you mean do i agree with the Bible... yes and no. I don't believe in it as a religion. But, does it have spiritual teaching? I think some of it was inspired by spiritual people.

I didn't want to tie you to the scriptures or Christianity seeing you did not state your religion in your profile. Asking you if you agreed with conservatives was to find out if you believed slavery was not so bad, that it worked out good for the African slaves which was the opinion of the 10 conservatives in the link I provided in the OP
Eg.
1. Pat Buchanan.In his essay "A Brief for Whitey," Buchanan suggested that slavery was a net positive, saying that,"America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known."

There are 9 others who held a similar view in the link.
Don't answer if you feel uncomfortable. Ethang5 is surely keeping score. Lol!
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At 12/4/2017 7:46:09 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

Christianity is indifferent to political systems and economic systems. Christianity was used to defend segregation, and it was used to defend integration, when in fact Christianity is unconcerned with either one. Likewise with slavery.

If I could venture a guess, I'd guessimate that 95% of all of slaves on the ocean en route at any given time were put there - either traded or sold - by their own people. Therefore (if true), apparently the negroes themselves were big supporters of slavery at one time. Add oddly enough, the descendants of the negroes who were shipped off are infinitely better off than the descendants of the negroes who traded/sold them in the first place. I'm not saying that they are better off due to their own initiative and productivity, but nonetheless they are better off.

That is the conservative view in the link I provided. It is hard to argue that Africans skaves are not better off living overseas when you see where their homeland Africa is heading. And yes, the Tran-Atlantic Slave Trade points directly to Ghana as the centre of all the slave activity controlled by local Ghanians who benefitted from selling African slaves of negroid ancestry to Europeans.

Thank you for responding to the OP. I feel less of a racist when I am perceived as having presented both sides of the argument. Lol!
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12/4/2017 10:33:43 PM
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At 12/4/2017 10:30:17 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 7:46:09 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

Christianity is indifferent to political systems and economic systems. Christianity was used to defend segregation, and it was used to defend integration, when in fact Christianity is unconcerned with either one. Likewise with slavery.

If I could venture a guess, I'd guessimate that 95% of all of slaves on the ocean en route at any given time were put there - either traded or sold - by their own people. Therefore (if true), apparently the negroes themselves were big supporters of slavery at one time. Add oddly enough, the descendants of the negroes who were shipped off are infinitely better off than the descendants of the negroes who traded/sold them in the first place. I'm not saying that they are better off due to their own initiative and productivity, but nonetheless they are better off.

That is the conservative view in the link I provided. It is hard to argue that Africans skaves are not better off living overseas when you see where their homeland Africa is heading. And yes, the Tran-Atlantic Slave Trade points directly to Ghana as the centre of all the slave activity controlled by local Ghanians who benefitted from selling African slaves of negroid ancestry to Europeans.

Thank you for responding to the OP. I feel less of a racist when I am perceived as having presented both sides of the argument. Lol!

Maybe the descendants of slaves will seek reparations from the ones who originally sold/traded them into slavery in the first place.
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12/4/2017 10:38:48 PM
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At 12/4/2017 10:21:07 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 7:37:10 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:20:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 5:26:00 AM, Outplayz wrote:
Not only was Christianity a crux to see slavery as acceptable... Black people themselves made a business out of selling their own kind. It's funny how it all gets blamed on "white people" when religion... even Islam, and black people themselves where to blame. Every ethnicity has been a slave in one time or another... but only black people still hold blame to white people today. It's kinda sad they can't hold themselves and their belief accountable for....
Indiscriminately selling their people as slaves to Europeans.
Thank you for responding to my OP. Do you agree with the conservatives?

Do you mean do i agree with the Bible... yes and no. I don't believe in it as a religion. But, does it have spiritual teaching? I think some of it was inspired by spiritual people.

I didn't want to tie you to the scriptures or Christianity seeing you did not state your religion in your profile. Asking you if you agreed with conservatives was to find out if you believed slavery was not so bad, that it worked out good for the African slaves which was the opinion of the 10 conservatives in the link I provided in the OP
Eg.
1. Pat Buchanan.In his essay "A Brief for Whitey," Buchanan suggested that slavery was a net positive, saying that,"America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known."

There are 9 others who held a similar view in the link.
Don't answer if you feel uncomfortable. Ethang5 is surely keeping score. Lol!

I believe, throughout history, the best time to be a slave would have been in America's age of slavery. Likely, most good Christians or good people treated their slaves kindly and gave them a good place to live and food. However, since we are talking about "owning" a person, slavery is never a good thing. There were likely those owners that abused, raped and hurt their slaves. Even though a minority, still pretty bad. But, yeah... overall, i think to have been a slave in that time would have been the best time to be a slave in slavery's history.
"For me, insanity is super sanity. The normal is psychotic. Normal means lack of imagination, lack of creativity." --- Jean Dubuffet
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12/4/2017 10:49:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/4/2017 9:35:40 PM, keithprosser wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

I think all this stuff demostrates is that making money is more important than religious doctrine. People are very good at ignoring dogma when it is inconvenient - it suddenly becomes 'symbolic' or 'metaphorical'. I don't think the Europeans enslaved Africans on the basis of Genesis 9: 24-27 - they did it because Africa was a rich vein of cheap slave labour. Humans in dominant cultures have enslaved humans from weaker cultures since we came down frim the trees... all that was new was the scale, made possible by the industrialisation of Europe.

i don't think religious dogma and doctrine is a powerful force in history - I think it is is more that dogma and doctrine is coninually being reshaped to serve the needs of the moment.

If you look at the Bible Belt which is in the South. It was both Christian and slave owners. Today, they are still against voting rights for all. So there appears to be a correlation between Christianity and slave owners as well as the economics which you alluded to. The North fought a civil war to free the African slaves. But conservatives still believe the Africsns slaves were better off as slaves.
Eg. 1. Pat Buchanan.In his essay "A Brief for Whitey," Buchanan suggested that slavery was a net positive, saying that,"America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known."

I am seeing a level of honesty and openness to a subject that if you haven't noticed was received very badly by Ethang5. You have demonstrated the subject can be discussed without animosity and misplaced anger.
I feel less of a racist when I am perceived as having presented both sides of the argument. Lol!
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12/4/2017 11:10:26 PM
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At 12/4/2017 10:33:43 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:30:17 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 7:46:09 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

Christianity is indifferent to political systems and economic systems. Christianity was used to defend segregation, and it was used to defend integration, when in fact Christianity is unconcerned with either one. Likewise with slavery.

If I could venture a guess, I'd guessimate that 95% of all of slaves on the ocean en route at any given time were put there - either traded or sold - by their own people. Therefore (if true), apparently the negroes themselves were big supporters of slavery at one time. Add oddly enough, the descendants of the negroes who were shipped off are infinitely better off than the descendants of the negroes who traded/sold them in the first place. I'm not saying that they are better off due to their own initiative and productivity, but nonetheless they are better off.

That is the conservative view in the link I provided. It is hard to argue that Africans skaves are not better off living overseas when you see where their homeland Africa is heading. And yes, the Tran-Atlantic Slave Trade points directly to Ghana as the centre of all the slave activity controlled by local Ghanians who benefitted from selling African slaves of negroid ancestry to Europeans.

Thank you for responding to the OP. I feel less of a racist when I am perceived as having presented both sides of the argument. Lol!

Maybe the descendants of slaves will seek reparations from the ones who originally sold/traded them into slavery in the first place.

I believe they have tried and it's an ongoing bone of contention between the victims and the American Justice system. The calculated reparation amount with inflation adjusted could run into the 100s of billions of dollars. With 30% of Africans unemployed, 30% incarcerated and the rest drug pushers and pimps with exceptions. The cost of supporting the freed slave over the decades has offset any consideration of reparations. The conservatives have built a convincing argument Africans slaves are better of than they would have been if they were shipped back to Africa.
Eg.
1. Pat Buchanan.In his essay "A Brief for Whitey," Buchanan suggested that slavery was a net positive, saying that,"America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known."

I guess a good question would be to ask the Ghanians like Ethang5 and those Africans who also profited from the slave trade to contribute to the solution and compensation.
Before Ethang5 goes beserk and starts screaming: What a racist idea, you should run it by him. Lol!
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12/5/2017 2:09:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/4/2017 8:18:35 PM, Abeer wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:
I like to start by apologizing to everyone who had their threads hijacked by the repetitive exchanges between Ethang5 and Harikrish. It should be obvious to everyone on the religion forum the question: 'What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?' was legitimate.

The religious forum is the right place to discuss the religious exploitation of humanity. The role of Christianity in African slavery is rather unique. Most religions allowed slavery based on economic and monetary reasons. But slaves were never targeted because of their skin colour alone. This all changed when Christians justified their targeting of Africans based on scriptures and skin colour. The continued discrimination of Africans are purely on skin colour.

There is a UNESCO study on the impact of slavery on the dark continent. What would be edifying to members on DDO is to hear Christians express their opinions on this subject and also those who feel indignation by this unjustifiable act of inhumanity against a people of negroid ancestry.

What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?

Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East. Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.

For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.

In the Genesis passage, Africans were said to be the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah, who was cursed by his father after looking at his naked form. Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cushites' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.

In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans. In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.


The shaming of Africans.

Christianity played a major role in African slavery. But it was the Afticans themselves who made it possible and supplied the slaves. Their complicity and brutality in creating the dehumanizing conditions and treatment of captured Africans in slave camps betrayed the innate jungle culture that the world witnesses as uniquely African. This archetypal jungle behaviour is pervasive throughout African history and has earned Africa the distinction of being the dark continent and the negroid Africans identified as being of sub-human ancestry.

"The forts and castles which started as European trading posts later becoming dungeons and slave auction areas which dot along the coast of Ghana even till today, don't give the whole picture.
, Krepi and Fante in the southern part of the Gold Coast and among all the major ethnic groups in the northern part of the country. It tells how those captured had to walk several kilometres under brutal conditions. Chained to each other with neck to hands iron shackles, they only got to rest at transit camps before arriving at the markets. Their new masters would then distinguished them from each other by marking them with branding irons which were put in fire to become red hot before they were stamped on specific parts of their body.

Many of the original iron shackles, some specially made for children, and the branding irons with inscriptions like ITA and GHC are in this exhibition. Also on display are recent colour photographs of many of the transit camps and markets as they look today."

10 Conservatives Who Have Praised American Slavery
Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard has deemed slavery a blessing. His position is not as uncommon as you'd think.

https://www.alternet.org...
Give me a proof from quran and prophet muhammed pbuh life that promotes for slavery? And let us analyze it if they are correct or not
When islam came 1400 years ago to those who dont know about islam, islam conducted a system to eradicate slavery , and when the prophet died after 23 years of preaching there was only few slaves left that was 1400 years ago when westren and other societies were in the dark ages
And every one knows that the westren society the just got rid of slavery 100 years ago
So islam has nothing to do with slavery , people in the middle east weather muslims or non muslims when they do these actions please dont pin them to islam unless you have a proof.

I am happy you stepped up to defend the prophets and Islam's goal to abolish slavery as it was known and condoned by Jews and Christians. Islam was the first religion to forcefully attempt to eradicate slavery and was quite successful towards the end of the prophets reign. But you cannot say Islam promotes a free society. There is an associated bondage and penalty for breaking free of ones obligation to Islam. In this case slavery is in the eyes of the beholder.

I found a few quotes that appear to mention slaves (captured enemies) and what treatment towards them are permissible. But they were poor translations and did not cross reference well.

Thank you for responding to the OP.
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12/5/2017 2:36:10 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/5/2017 2:09:48 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 8:18:35 PM, Abeer wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:
I like to start by apologizing to everyone who had their threads hijacked by the repetitive exchanges between Ethang5 and Harikrish. It should be obvious to everyone on the religion forum the question: 'What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?' was legitimate.

The religious forum is the right place to discuss the religious exploitation of humanity. The role of Christianity in African slavery is rather unique. Most religions allowed slavery based on economic and monetary reasons. But slaves were never targeted because of their skin colour alone. This all changed when Christians justified their targeting of Africans based on scriptures and skin colour. The continued discrimination of Africans are purely on skin colour.

There is a UNESCO study on the impact of slavery on the dark continent. What would be edifying to members on DDO is to hear Christians express their opinions on this subject and also those who feel indignation by this unjustifiable act of inhumanity against a people of negroid ancestry.

What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?

Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East. Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.

For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.

In the Genesis passage, Africans were said to be the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah, who was cursed by his father after looking at his naked form. Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cushites' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.

In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans. In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.


The shaming of Africans.

Christianity played a major role in African slavery. But it was the Afticans themselves who made it possible and supplied the slaves. Their complicity and brutality in creating the dehumanizing conditions and treatment of captured Africans in slave camps betrayed the innate jungle culture that the world witnesses as uniquely African. This archetypal jungle behaviour is pervasive throughout African history and has earned Africa the distinction of being the dark continent and the negroid Africans identified as being of sub-human ancestry.

"The forts and castles which started as European trading posts later becoming dungeons and slave auction areas which dot along the coast of Ghana even till today, don't give the whole picture.
, Krepi and Fante in the southern part of the Gold Coast and among all the major ethnic groups in the northern part of the country. It tells how those captured had to walk several kilometres under brutal conditions. Chained to each other with neck to hands iron shackles, they only got to rest at transit camps before arriving at the markets. Their new masters would then distinguished them from each other by marking them with branding irons which were put in fire to become red hot before they were stamped on specific parts of their body.

Many of the original iron shackles, some specially made for children, and the branding irons with inscriptions like ITA and GHC are in this exhibition. Also on display are recent colour photographs of many of the transit camps and markets as they look today."

10 Conservatives Who Have Praised American Slavery
Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard has deemed slavery a blessing. His position is not as uncommon as you'd think.

https://www.alternet.org...
Give me a proof from quran and prophet muhammed pbuh life that promotes for slavery? And let us analyze it if they are correct or not
When islam came 1400 years ago to those who dont know about islam, islam conducted a system to eradicate slavery , and when the prophet died after 23 years of preaching there was only few slaves left that was 1400 years ago when westren and other societies were in the dark ages
And every one knows that the westren society the just got rid of slavery 100 years ago
So islam has nothing to do with slavery , people in the middle east weather muslims or non muslims when they do these actions please dont pin them to islam unless you have a proof.

I am happy you stepped up to defend the prophets and Islam's goal to abolish slavery as it was known and condoned by Jews and Christians. Islam was the first religion to forcefully attempt to eradicate slavery and was quite successful towards the end of the prophets reign.
Thanks
But you cannot say Islam promotes a free society.
free in which sense?
The one who created us is the only one who knows what is the best for all of us
If you mean practicing adultry in the street, drinking alchol, homosexuality etc yes islam doesnt allow actions that will hurt the society , if you wanna do these things in your room where no one can watch you its between you and GOD since he is watching you he never said that we should attck people in their rooms and see and punish them or stone them , islam teach us to respect people privacy and not to intervene and by this i see islam promotes freedom from our desires or laws that were dictated by human
But in casethat someone trying to conduct these actions in public GOD says no
e.g If you have a friend who is a drug dealer your mom would tell you dont be his friend and stay away from bad people or troubles why? Because he is going to affect you and every one knows that
So GOD prohibit any bad actions but the one in public he set this system of penality why to keep the society healthy and clean
There is an associated bondage and penalty for breaking free of ones obligation to Islam. In this case slavery is in the eyes of the beholder.
like what specifically? Explain

I found a few quotes that appear to mention slaves (captured enemies) and what treatment towards them are permissible. But they were poor translations and did not cross reference well.
Yes when there is a war between two groups there will be captives in each side, and islam made a law and system for these captives so we dont see what actually happening now in this world tourtring, raping , killing etc , and it will not make any sense that the muslim side will free their captives while the enemy will hold the muslim captives tourturing them and raping them.

Thank you for responding to the OP.
You are welc
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12/5/2017 6:39:53 AM
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At 12/4/2017 11:10:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:33:43 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:30:17 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 7:46:09 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

Christianity is indifferent to political systems and economic systems. Christianity was used to defend segregation, and it was used to defend integration, when in fact Christianity is unconcerned with either one. Likewise with slavery.

If I could venture a guess, I'd guessimate that 95% of all of slaves on the ocean en route at any given time were put there - either traded or sold - by their own people. Therefore (if true), apparently the negroes themselves were big supporters of slavery at one time. Add oddly enough, the descendants of the negroes who were shipped off are infinitely better off than the descendants of the negroes who traded/sold them in the first place. I'm not saying that they are better off due to their own initiative and productivity, but nonetheless they are better off.

That is the conservative view in the link I provided. It is hard to argue that Africans skaves are not better off living overseas when you see where their homeland Africa is heading. And yes, the Tran-Atlantic Slave Trade points directly to Ghana as the centre of all the slave activity controlled by local Ghanians who benefitted from selling African slaves of negroid ancestry to Europeans.

Thank you for responding to the OP. I feel less of a racist when I am perceived as having presented both sides of the argument. Lol!

Maybe the descendants of slaves will seek reparations from the ones who originally sold/traded them into slavery in the first place.

I believe they have tried and it's an ongoing bone of contention between the victims and the American Justice system.

Why would the American Justice System be mixed up in it. The Americans didn't originally trade/sell them into slavery. Their fellow Africans profiteered off of that move. Therefore, I'd suggest they files suits in Senegal, Angola, the Congo, etc.

We'll see how that works out for them.
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12/5/2017 1:42:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/5/2017 6:39:53 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 11:10:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:33:43 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:30:17 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 7:46:09 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

Christianity is indifferent to political systems and economic systems. Christianity was used to defend segregation, and it was used to defend integration, when in fact Christianity is unconcerned with either one. Likewise with slavery.

If I could venture a guess, I'd guessimate that 95% of all of slaves on the ocean en route at any given time were put there - either traded or sold - by their own people. Therefore (if true), apparently the negroes themselves were big supporters of slavery at one time. Add oddly enough, the descendants of the negroes who were shipped off are infinitely better off than the descendants of the negroes who traded/sold them in the first place. I'm not saying that they are better off due to their own initiative and productivity, but nonetheless they are better off.

That is the conservative view in the link I provided. It is hard to argue that Africans skaves are not better off living overseas when you see where their homeland Africa is heading. And yes, the Tran-Atlantic Slave Trade points directly to Ghana as the centre of all the slave activity controlled by local Ghanians who benefitted from selling African slaves of negroid ancestry to Europeans.

Thank you for responding to the OP. I feel less of a racist when I am perceived as having presented both sides of the argument. Lol!

Maybe the descendants of slaves will seek reparations from the ones who originally sold/traded them into slavery in the first place.

I believe they have tried and it's an ongoing bone of contention between the victims and the American Justice system.

Why would the American Justice System be mixed up in it. The Americans didn't originally trade/sell them into slavery. Their fellow Africans profiteered off of that move. Therefore, I'd suggest they files suits in Senegal, Angola, the Congo, etc.

We'll see how that works out for them.

The victims of slavery believe they were wronged and just like the Japanese were compensated to redress a wrong, they qualified for reparations.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

SLAVERY REPARATIONS COULD COST UP TO $14 TRILLION, ACCORDING TO NEW CALCULATION
http://www.newsweek.com...

Previous estimates of reparations have ranged from around $36 billion to $10 trillion (in 2009 dollars), Craemer says. Those calculations mostly looked at wealth created by slaves as opposed to services provided, resulting in underestimates. Craemer believes that "the economic assumptions underlying [his method] are more sound" than those used in previous papers.

I am hoping progressive blacks read in my post support for their cause "The role Christianity played in African slavery' and cut me a slice of the reparation pie. At the same time Christians should know the bible does talk about compensating slaves/servants in Exodus 21.

Now let someone try calling Harikrish racist. Lol!
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12/5/2017 1:53:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/5/2017 2:36:10 AM, Abeer wrote:
At 12/5/2017 2:09:48 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 8:18:35 PM, Abeer wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:
I like to start by apologizing to everyone who had their threads hijacked by the repetitive exchanges between Ethang5 and Harikrish. It should be obvious to everyone on the religion forum the question: 'What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?' was legitimate.
The religious forum is the right place to discuss the religious exploitation of humanity. The role of Christianity in African slavery is rather unique. Most religions allowed slavery based on economic and monetary reasons. But slaves were never targeted because of their skin colour alone. This all changed when Christians justified their targeting of Africans based on scriptures and skin colour. The continued discrimination of Africans are purely on skin colour.
There is a UNESCO study on the impact of slavery on the dark continent. What would be edifying to members on DDO is to hear Christians express their opinions on this subject and also those who feel indignation by this unjustifiable act of inhumanity against a people of negroid ancestry.
What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?
Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East. Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.
For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.
In the Genesis passage, Africans were said to be the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah, who was cursed by his father after looking at his naked form. Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cushites' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.
In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans. In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.

The shaming of Africans.

Christianity played a major role in African slavery. But it was the Afticans themselves who made it possible and supplied the slaves. Their complicity and brutality in creating the dehumanizing conditions and treatment of captured Africans in slave camps betrayed the innate jungle culture that the world witnesses as uniquely African. This archetypal jungle behaviour is pervasive throughout African history and has earned Africa the distinction of being the dark continent and the negroid Africans identified as being of sub-human ancestry.

"The forts and castles which started as European trading posts later becoming dungeons and slave auction areas which dot along the coast of Ghana even till today, don't give the whole picture.
, Krepi and Fante in the southern part of the Gold Coast and among all the major ethnic groups in the northern part of the country. It tells how those captured had to walk several kilometres under brutal conditions. Chained to each other with neck to hands iron shackles, they only got to rest at transit camps before arriving at the markets. Their new masters would then distinguished them from each other by marking them with branding irons which were put in fire to become red hot before they were stamped on specific parts of their body.

10 Conservatives Who Have Praised American Slavery
Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard has deemed slavery a blessing. His position is not as uncommon as you'd think.

https://www.alternet.org...
Give me a proof from quran and prophet muhammed pbuh life that promotes for slavery? And let us analyze it if they are correct or not
When islam came 1400 years ago to those who dont know about islam, islam conducted a system to eradicate slavery , and when the prophet died after 23 years of preaching there was only few slaves left that was 1400 years ago when westren and other societies were in the dark ages
And every one knows that the westren society the just got rid of slavery 100 years ago
So islam has nothing to do with slavery , people in the middle east weather muslims or non muslims when they do these actions please dont pin them to islam unless you have a proof.

I am happy you stepped up to defend the prophets and Islam's goal to abolish slavery as it was known and condoned by Jews and Christians. Islam was the first religion to forcefully attempt to eradicate slavery and was quite successful towards the end of the prophets reign.
Thanks
But you cannot say Islam promotes a free society.
free in which sense?
The one who created us is the only one who knows what is the best for all of us
If you mean practicing adultry in the street, drinking alchol, homosexuality etc yes islam doesnt allow actions that will hurt the society , if you wanna do these things in your room where no one can watch you its between you and GOD since he is watching you he never said that we should attck people in their rooms and see and punish them or stone them , islam teach us to respect people privacy and not to intervene and by this i see islam promotes freedom from our desires or laws that were dictated by human
But in casethat someone trying to conduct these actions in public GOD says no
e.g If you have a friend who is a drug dealer your mom would tell you dont be his friend and stay away from bad people or troubles why? Because he is going to affect you and every one knows that
So GOD prohibit any bad actions but the one in public he set this system of penality why to keep the society healthy and clean
There is an associated bondage and penalty for breaking free of ones obligation to Islam. In this case slavery is in the eyes of the beholder.
like what specifically? Explain

You addressed it already. Western concept of freedom is sinning and salvation through grace. Islam is though works and moral conduct.
I found a few quotes that appear to mention slaves (captured enemies) and what treatment towards them are permissible. But they were poor translations and did not cross reference well.
Yes when there is a war between two groups there will be captives in each side, and islam made a law and system for these captives so we dont see what actually happening now in this world tourtring, raping , killing etc , and it will not make any sense that the muslim side will free their captives while the enemy will hold the muslim captives tourturing them and raping them.

Thank you for responding to the OP.
You are welcome.
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12/5/2017 7:49:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/5/2017 1:42:18 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/5/2017 6:39:53 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 11:10:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:33:43 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:30:17 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 7:46:09 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

Christianity is indifferent to political systems and economic systems. Christianity was used to defend segregation, and it was used to defend integration, when in fact Christianity is unconcerned with either one. Likewise with slavery.

If I could venture a guess, I'd guessimate that 95% of all of slaves on the ocean en route at any given time were put there - either traded or sold - by their own people. Therefore (if true), apparently the negroes themselves were big supporters of slavery at one time. Add oddly enough, the descendants of the negroes who were shipped off are infinitely better off than the descendants of the negroes who traded/sold them in the first place. I'm not saying that they are better off due to their own initiative and productivity, but nonetheless they are better off.

That is the conservative view in the link I provided. It is hard to argue that Africans skaves are not better off living overseas when you see where their homeland Africa is heading. And yes, the Tran-Atlantic Slave Trade points directly to Ghana as the centre of all the slave activity controlled by local Ghanians who benefitted from selling African slaves of negroid ancestry to Europeans.

Thank you for responding to the OP. I feel less of a racist when I am perceived as having presented both sides of the argument. Lol!

Maybe the descendants of slaves will seek reparations from the ones who originally sold/traded them into slavery in the first place.

I believe they have tried and it's an ongoing bone of contention between the victims and the American Justice system.

Why would the American Justice System be mixed up in it. The Americans didn't originally trade/sell them into slavery. Their fellow Africans profiteered off of that move. Therefore, I'd suggest they files suits in Senegal, Angola, the Congo, etc.

We'll see how that works out for them.

The victims of slavery believe they were wronged and just like the Japanese were compensated to redress a wrong, they qualified for reparations.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

The Japanese government didn't sell off their own citizens. Africans did.


SLAVERY REPARATIONS COULD COST UP TO $14 TRILLION, ACCORDING TO NEW CALCULATION
http://www.newsweek.com...

Previous estimates of reparations have ranged from around $36 billion to $10 trillion (in 2009 dollars), Craemer says. Those calculations mostly looked at wealth created by slaves as opposed to services provided, resulting in underestimates. Craemer believes that "the economic assumptions underlying [his method] are more sound" than those used in previous papers.

I am hoping progressive blacks read in my post support for their cause "The role Christianity played in African slavery' and cut me a slice of the reparation pie. At the same time Christians should know the bible does talk about compensating slaves/servants in Exodus 21.

Now let someone try calling Harikrish racist. Lol!

You did not address my idea that reparations should begin at the feet of the very ones who first profited by the slave trade, i. e. Africans. They enslaved defeated tribes and sold them. Thus they should now compensate the descendants of their victims. Of course, the irony is that if the victims had won the battles, they would have enslaved their conquests and done the same damn thing.

At any rate, nobody mentions the foregoing. I think they old "can't get blood out of a turnip" comes into play, i. e. there's little point in suing a group of folks who have nothing.
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12/5/2017 8:21:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/5/2017 7:49:45 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/5/2017 1:42:18 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/5/2017 6:39:53 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 11:10:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:33:43 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:30:17 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 7:46:09 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

Christianity is indifferent to political systems and economic systems. Christianity was used to defend segregation, and it was used to defend integration, when in fact Christianity is unconcerned with either one. Likewise with slavery.

If I could venture a guess, I'd guessimate that 95% of all of slaves on the ocean en route at any given time were put there - either traded or sold - by their own people. Therefore (if true), apparently the negroes themselves were big supporters of slavery at one time. Add oddly enough, the descendants of the negroes who were shipped off are infinitely better off than the descendants of the negroes who traded/sold them in the first place. I'm not saying that they are better off due to their own initiative and productivity, but nonetheless they are better off.

That is the conservative view in the link I provided. It is hard to argue that Africans skaves are not better off living overseas when you see where their homeland Africa is heading. And yes, the Tran-Atlantic Slave Trade points directly to Ghana as the centre of all the slave activity controlled by local Ghanians who benefitted from selling African slaves of negroid ancestry to Europeans.

Thank you for responding to the OP. I feel less of a racist when I am perceived as having presented both sides of the argument. Lol!

Maybe the descendants of slaves will seek reparations from the ones who originally sold/traded them into slavery in the first place.

I believe they have tried and it's an ongoing bone of contention between the victims and the American Justice system.

Why would the American Justice System be mixed up in it. The Americans didn't originally trade/sell them into slavery. Their fellow Africans profiteered off of that move. Therefore, I'd suggest they files suits in Senegal, Angola, the Congo, etc.

We'll see how that works out for them.

The victims of slavery believe they were wronged and just like the Japanese were compensated to redress a wrong, they qualified for reparations.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

The Japanese government didn't sell off their own citizens. Africans did.

Quite possibly that was the winning argument the Japanese used to win their case.


SLAVERY REPARATIONS COULD COST UP TO $14 TRILLION, ACCORDING TO NEW CALCULATION
http://www.newsweek.com...

Previous estimates of reparations have ranged from around $36 billion to $10 trillion (in 2009 dollars), Craemer says. Those calculations mostly looked at wealth created by slaves as opposed to services provided, resulting in underestimates. Craemer believes that "the economic assumptions underlying [his method] are more sound" than those used in previous papers.

I am hoping progressive blacks read in my post support for their cause "The role Christianity played in African slavery' and cut me a slice of the reparation pie. At the same time Christians should know the bible does talk about compensating slaves/servants in Exodus 21.

Now let someone try calling Harikrish racist. Lol!

You did not address my idea that reparations should begin at the feet of the very ones who first profited by the slave trade, i. e. Africans. They enslaved defeated tribes and sold them. Thus they should now compensate the descendants of their victims. Of course, the irony is that if the victims had won the battles, they would have enslaved their conquests and done the same damn thing.

I was hoping Ethang5 would step up to the plate. He lives in Ghana which was the centre of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. 20 million African slaves were sold and shipped out of Ghanian ports. I couldn't understand why he kept calling me a racist for raising this African slavery issue. Now I believe he saw where the conversation was heading. It was what you have been asking. Who pays the reparation cost? All fingers point to Ghana, at least for the 20 million African slavess they caught and sold to Europeans.
You must have a legal background to see through all this, wow!!

At any rate, nobody mentions the foregoing. I think they old "can't get blood out of a turnip" comes into play, i. e. there's little point in suing a group of folks who have nothing.

Actually there are a few wealthy Ghanians. Not sure if they acquired their wealth from the slave trade. But rather than trying to hijack this discussion, Ethang5 should appeal to his better angels and start fessing up.
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12/5/2017 10:34:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/5/2017 8:21:36 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/5/2017 7:49:45 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/5/2017 1:42:18 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/5/2017 6:39:53 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 11:10:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:33:43 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:30:17 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 7:46:09 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

Christianity is indifferent to political systems and economic systems. Christianity was used to defend segregation, and it was used to defend integration, when in fact Christianity is unconcerned with either one. Likewise with slavery.

If I could venture a guess, I'd guessimate that 95% of all of slaves on the ocean en route at any given time were put there - either traded or sold - by their own people. Therefore (if true), apparently the negroes themselves were big supporters of slavery at one time. Add oddly enough, the descendants of the negroes who were shipped off are infinitely better off than the descendants of the negroes who traded/sold them in the first place. I'm not saying that they are better off due to their own initiative and productivity, but nonetheless they are better off.

That is the conservative view in the link I provided. It is hard to argue that Africans skaves are not better off living overseas when you see where their homeland Africa is heading. And yes, the Tran-Atlantic Slave Trade points directly to Ghana as the centre of all the slave activity controlled by local Ghanians who benefitted from selling African slaves of negroid ancestry to Europeans.

Thank you for responding to the OP. I feel less of a racist when I am perceived as having presented both sides of the argument. Lol!

Maybe the descendants of slaves will seek reparations from the ones who originally sold/traded them into slavery in the first place.

I believe they have tried and it's an ongoing bone of contention between the victims and the American Justice system.

Why would the American Justice System be mixed up in it. The Americans didn't originally trade/sell them into slavery. Their fellow Africans profiteered off of that move. Therefore, I'd suggest they files suits in Senegal, Angola, the Congo, etc.

We'll see how that works out for them.

The victims of slavery believe they were wronged and just like the Japanese were compensated to redress a wrong, they qualified for reparations.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

The Japanese government didn't sell off their own citizens. Africans did.

Quite possibly that was the winning argument the Japanese used to win their case.


SLAVERY REPARATIONS COULD COST UP TO $14 TRILLION, ACCORDING TO NEW CALCULATION
http://www.newsweek.com...

Previous estimates of reparations have ranged from around $36 billion to $10 trillion (in 2009 dollars), Craemer says. Those calculations mostly looked at wealth created by slaves as opposed to services provided, resulting in underestimates. Craemer believes that "the economic assumptions underlying [his method] are more sound" than those used in previous papers.

I am hoping progressive blacks read in my post support for their cause "The role Christianity played in African slavery' and cut me a slice of the reparation pie. At the same time Christians should know the bible does talk about compensating slaves/servants in Exodus 21.

Now let someone try calling Harikrish racist. Lol!

You did not address my idea that reparations should begin at the feet of the very ones who first profited by the slave trade, i. e. Africans. They enslaved defeated tribes and sold them. Thus they should now compensate the descendants of their victims. Of course, the irony is that if the victims had won the battles, they would have enslaved their conquests and done the same damn thing.

I was hoping Ethang5 would step up to the plate. He lives in Ghana which was the centre of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. 20 million African slaves were sold and shipped out of Ghanian ports. I couldn't understand why he kept calling me a racist for raising this African slavery issue. Now I believe he saw where the conversation was heading. It was what you have been asking. Who pays the reparation cost? All fingers point to Ghana, at least for the 20 million African slavess they caught and sold to Europeans.
You must have a legal background to see through all this, wow!!

At any rate, nobody mentions the foregoing. I think they old "can't get blood out of a turnip" comes into play, i. e. there's little point in suing a group of folks who have nothing.

Actually there are a few wealthy Ghanians. Not sure if they acquired their wealth from the slave trade. But rather than trying to hijack this discussion, Ethang5 should appeal to his better angels and start fessing up.

If there are some wealthy Ghanians, then maybe the U. S. Government can seek reparations for "keeping up" their displaced Ghanians all these years. The Ghanians, so far, have had their cake and ate it multiple times: they got rid of a huge number of negroes and flipped a profit on the deal. We here in the U. S., on the other hand, acquired them and lose billions every year on it.
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12/6/2017 1:32:43 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/5/2017 10:34:47 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/5/2017 8:21:36 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/5/2017 7:49:45 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/5/2017 1:42:18 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/5/2017 6:39:53 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 11:10:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:33:43 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 10:30:17 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/4/2017 7:46:09 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:

Christianity is indifferent to political systems and economic systems. Christianity was used to defend segregation, and it was used to defend integration, when in fact Christianity is unconcerned with either one. Likewise with slavery.

If I could venture a guess, I'd guessimate that 95% of all of slaves on the ocean en route at any given time were put there - either traded or sold - by their own people. Therefore (if true), apparently the negroes themselves were big supporters of slavery at one time. Add oddly enough, the descendants of the negroes who were shipped off are infinitely better off than the descendants of the negroes who traded/sold them in the first place. I'm not saying that they are better off due to their own initiative and productivity, but nonetheless they are better off.

That is the conservative view in the link I provided. It is hard to argue that Africans skaves are not better off living overseas when you see where their homeland Africa is heading. And yes, the Tran-Atlantic Slave Trade points directly to Ghana as the centre of all the slave activity controlled by local Ghanians who benefitted from selling African slaves of negroid ancestry to Europeans.

Thank you for responding to the OP. I feel less of a racist when I am perceived as having presented both sides of the argument. Lol!

Maybe the descendants of slaves will seek reparations from the ones who originally sold/traded them into slavery in the first place.

I believe they have tried and it's an ongoing bone of contention between the victims and the American Justice system.

Why would the American Justice System be mixed up in it. The Americans didn't originally trade/sell them into slavery. Their fellow Africans profiteered off of that move. Therefore, I'd suggest they files suits in Senegal, Angola, the Congo, etc.

We'll see how that works out for them.

The victims of slavery believe they were wronged and just like the Japanese were compensated to redress a wrong, they qualified for reparations.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

The Japanese government didn't sell off their own citizens. Africans did.

Quite possibly that was the winning argument the Japanese used to win their case.


SLAVERY REPARATIONS COULD COST UP TO $14 TRILLION, ACCORDING TO NEW CALCULATION
http://www.newsweek.com...

Previous estimates of reparations have ranged from around $36 billion to $10 trillion (in 2009 dollars), Craemer says. Those calculations mostly looked at wealth created by slaves as opposed to services provided, resulting in underestimates. Craemer believes that "the economic assumptions underlying [his method] are more sound" than those used in previous papers.

I am hoping progressive blacks read in my post support for their cause "The role Christianity played in African slavery' and cut me a slice of the reparation pie. At the same time Christians should know the bible does talk about compensating slaves/servants in Exodus 21.

Now let someone try calling Harikrish racist. Lol!

You did not address my idea that reparations should begin at the feet of the very ones who first profited by the slave trade, i. e. Africans. They enslaved defeated tribes and sold them. Thus they should now compensate the descendants of their victims. Of course, the irony is that if the victims had won the battles, they would have enslaved their conquests and done the same damn thing.

I was hoping Ethang5 would step up to the plate. He lives in Ghana which was the centre of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. 20 million African slaves were sold and shipped out of Ghanian ports. I couldn't understand why he kept calling me a racist for raising this African slavery issue. Now I believe he saw where the conversation was heading. It was what you have been asking. Who pays the reparation cost? All fingers point to Ghana, at least for the 20 million African slavess they caught and sold to Europeans.
You must have a legal background to see through all this, wow!!

At any rate, nobody mentions the foregoing. I think they old "can't get blood out of a turnip" comes into play, i. e. there's little point in suing a group of folks who have nothing.

Actually there are a few wealthy Ghanians. Not sure if they acquired their wealth from the slave trade. But rather than trying to hijack this discussion, Ethang5 should appeal to his better angels and start fessing up.

If there are some wealthy Ghanians, then maybe the U. S. Government can seek reparations for "keeping up" their displaced Ghanians all these years. The Ghanians, so far, have had their cake and ate it multiple times: they got rid of a huge number of negroes and flipped a profit on the deal. We here in the U. S., on the other hand, acquired them and lose billions every year on it.

We hear you. I researched the statistics on the American experience.
1. 30% of Africans are incarcerated (in prison).
2. 30% of Africans are unemployed.
3. The rest are either drug pushers or pimps with exceptions competing with Mexicans according to Trump.

That is a deficit situation for the US economy.

On another front.
Here is the dilemma law enforcement officers face which has resulted in riots across America and spun the Black Lives Matter movement.

1. Do you shoot the negroid when he is aggressively approaching you (threatening officer).?
2. Do you shoot the negroid when he is running away from you (escaping criminal)?
3. Do you just shoot the negroid in the car and save yourself from shooting the negroid again under point 1&2 (recommended)

So why are the two problem so difficult to solve when every American knows it is a negroid problem and negroids are easily identifiable by their appearence. Is it a consciousness of guilt accepting Christianity's role in creating African slavery or is it the constitutional right white Americans fought and died for foolishly and unnecessarily for the liberation of African slaves when the slaves could have told Americans overwhelmingly 'Africans were happier when they were slaves.', don't bother!!

I appreciate your patience. You can see I am trying to arrive at an equitable solution without the help of Ethang a Ghanian who refuses to acknowledge the merit in this discussion.
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12/7/2017 10:51:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
A multidimensional approach to the negroid problem. What scientist and economist say.

The size of the African problem.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com...
http://www.afrikanheritage.com...
http://talkofnaija.com...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk...
http://themockdock.com...
https://southafricatoday.net...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...

African history in pictures.
What was in the papers then.

http://www.slate.com...

https://media.nationalgeographic.org...

http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com...

https://img.thedailybeast.com...

Africa today.

https://paanluelwel2011.files.wordpress.com...

http://all-that-is-interesting.com...
https://i.ytimg.com...

http://www.brh.org.uk...

Look at how Africans were treated for 4 centuries. 4 centuries of African slavery has left a permanent stamp in your head which psychologist say is the equivalent of a white Christian masters footprint. It is called the indelible stamp of their white Christian masters. This is why nothing good comes out of Africa.

Africans slaves were treated worse than Animals.
https://i.pinimg.com...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com...

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net...

http://marianeibrahim.com...

Africans live in cages.
https://jtf.org...

How they kept African slaves quiet for 4 centuries. Do Black Lives Matter want to bring those days back?
Slave fashion collars. Will they make a comeback, Ethang5?

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net...

http://marianeibrahim.com...
https://campvolant.files.wordpress.com...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk...

Extreme child abuse.
https://pbs.twimg.com...

You And starving Africans today.
http://i58.tinypic.com...

https://i.pinimg.com...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk...

http://all-that-is-interesting.com...

Why the Africans want their white masters back.
https://i.ytimg.com...

How African slavery effected African women.

http://talkofnaija.com...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk...
http://themockdock.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://southafricatoday.net...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...

If you want to go deeper Ethang5. There are research papers that show the Negroid race is genetically inferior to other races. But that is more appropriate for the science section.

"Fury at DNA pioneer's theory: Africans are less intelligent than Westerners
http://www.independent.co.uk...

Celebrated scientist attacked for race comments: "All our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really"
By Cahal Milmo Tuesday 16 October 2007 23:00 BST

One of the world's most eminent scientists was embroiled in an extraordinary row last night after he claimed that black people were less intelligent than white people and the idea that "equal powers of reason" were shared across racial groups was a delusion.

James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in the unravelling of DNA who now runs one of America's leading scientific research institutions, drew widespread condemnation for comments he made ahead of his arrival in Britain today for a speaking tour at venues including the Science Museum in London.

The 79-year-old geneticist reopened the explosive debate about race and science in a newspaper interview in which he said Western policies towards African countries were wrongly based on an assumption that black people were as clever as their white counterparts when "testing" suggested the contrary. He claimed genes responsible for creating differences in human intelligence could be found within a decade.

Even scientists and Nobel prize winners are called racist when they research Africans negroid ancestry and its limitations.

I researched the statistics on the American experience with negroids after slavery.

1. 30% of Africans are incarcerated (in prison).
2. 30% of Africans are unemployed.
3. The rest are either drug pushers or pimps with exceptions competing with Mexicans according to Trump.

That is a deficit situation for the US economy.

On another front.
Here is the dilemma law enforcement officers face which has resulted in riots across America and spun the Black Lives Matter movement.

1. Do you shoot the negroid when he is aggressively approaching you (threatening officer).?
2. Do you shoot the negroid when he is running away from you (escaping criminal)?
3. Do you just shoot the negroid in the car and save yourself from shooting the negroid again under point 1&2 (recommended)

So why are the two problem so difficult to solve when every American knows it is a negroid problem and negroids are easily identifiable by their appearence. Is it a consciousness of guilt accepting Christianity's role in creating African slavery or is it the constitutional right white Americans fought and died for foolishly and unnecessarily for the liberation of African slaves when the slaves could have told Americans overwhelmingly 'Africans were happier when they were slaves.', don't bother!!

Are Hindus/Asians a problem in America?
Asian median household income: $78,000
White median household income: $62,000
Hispanic median household income: $46,000
Black median household income: $37,000

In every category Africans are losers. africans were better off as slaves when the white Christian master provided everything.
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12/8/2017 12:48:35 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:
I like to start by apologizing to everyone who had their threads hijacked by the repetitive exchanges between Ethang5 and Harikrish. It should be obvious to everyone on the religion forum the question: 'What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?' was legitimate.

The religious forum is the right place to discuss the religious exploitation of humanity. The role of Christianity in African slavery is rather unique. Most religions allowed slavery based on economic and monetary reasons. But slaves were never targeted because of their skin colour alone. This all changed when Christians justified their targeting of Africans based on scriptures and skin colour. The continued discrimination of Africans are purely on skin colour.

There is a UNESCO study on the impact of slavery on the dark continent. What would be edifying to members on DDO is to hear Christians express their opinions on this subject and also those who feel indignation by this unjustifiable act of inhumanity against a people of negroid ancestry.

What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?

Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East. Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.

For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.

In the Genesis passage, Africans were said to be the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah, who was cursed by his father after looking at his naked form. Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cushites' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.

In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans. In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.


The Trans-Atlantic Slave a Trade.

"In fact, for almost 150 years, Ghana, on Africa"s west coast, was the center of the British slave trade. Western traders arrived in ships loaded with manufactured goods to barter or trade for slaves. Those who were sold had often been captured in tribal warfare; some had simply been kidnapped to sell to European slave traders.

it is estimated from as many as 20 million West Africans were captured between the end of 15th century until 1870 (when the slave trade was abolished). Only half of them survived the harsh conditions on the voyages " and 10 million of them actually made it to the Americas.

Ghana's role in the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.

Ghanaians, it seems, view the Trans-Atlantic slave trade as an unfortunate historical human calamity which must not be allowed to happen again.
But the question is how many Ghanaians are truly aware of the role people living within that part of the continent at the time played in the actual act of capturing and selling their own people in return for things such as gunpowder and kola? The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and Ghana, an exhibition mounted as an attempt to educate the public on the historical occurrence of the slave trade, is currently on at the National Museum in Accra.

Not only is there evidence of some 35 slave markets dotted around the area in West Africa where Ghana is situated, there are also many routes, transit camps and objects available to establish that the trade took place under horrendous conditions. Several of these transit camps and markets have been identified within the area where Ghana is currently situated. And some of these inland sites are characterised by water cisterns, remnants of slave warehouses, rock boulders and trees with large or long exposed roots for chaining the enslaved. Burial grounds for slaves, and their ancestors as well as their masters are still visible at places like Salaga, Saakpuli and Kafaba in the Northern part of Ghana. Other places include Assin Manso and Effutu in the Central Region area, and Atorkor, Peki Dzake and Adafianu in Anloland.

The shaming of Africans.

Christianity played a major role in African slavery. But it was the Afticans themselves who made it possible and supplied the slaves. Their complicity and brutality in creating the dehumanizing conditions and treatment of captured Africans in slave camps betrayed the innate jungle culture that the world witnesses as uniquely African. This archetypal jungle behaviour is pervasive throughout African history and has earned Africa the distinction of being the dark continent and the negroid Africans identified as being of sub-human ancestry.

"The forts and castles which started as European trading posts later becoming dungeons and slave auction areas which dot along the coast of Ghana even till today, don't give the whole picture.

This exhibition tackles the story of the slave trade from another more important angle which has, hitherto, not been told much. It tells how deeply African chiefs and kings themselves were involved in the trading, ordering raids and kidnaping, and arranged markets where the captured were sold. Toward the end of the 17th century and in the first few decades of the 18th, slave raiding and kidnaping became the major occupation among the Akwamu, Akyem, Kwahu, Krepi and Fante in the southern part of the Gold Coast and among all the major ethnic groups in the northern part of the country. It tells how those captured had to walk several kilometres under brutal conditions. Chained to each other with neck to hands iron shackles, they only got to rest at transit camps before arriving at the markets. Their new masters would then distinguished them from each other by marking them with branding irons which were put in fire to become red hot before they were stamped on specific parts of their body.

Many of the original iron shackles, some specially made for children, and the branding irons with inscriptions like ITA and GHC are in this exhibition. Also on display are recent colour photographs of many of the transit camps and markets as they look today."

10 Conservatives Who Have Praised American Slavery
Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard has deemed slavery a blessing. His position is not as uncommon as you'd think.

https://www.alternet.org...

Christianity had no role in African Slavery. Christianity died out hundreds of years before that started and was not revived until after it had ended.

You cannot blame the actions of fake Christianity on true Christianity, though that is precisely what Satan wants you to do.
It impossible to make a horse drink which is not thirsty, or eat if it is not hungry.

Likewise it is impossible to teach a person who does not wish to learn. Matthew 13:15.
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12/8/2017 3:24:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/8/2017 12:48:35 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/4/2017 4:26:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:
I like to start by apologizing to everyone who had their threads hijacked by the repetitive exchanges between Ethang5 and Harikrish. It should be obvious to everyone on the religion forum the question: 'What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?' was legitimate.

The religious forum is the right place to discuss the religious exploitation of humanity. The role of Christianity in African slavery is rather unique. Most religions allowed slavery based on economic and monetary reasons. But slaves were never targeted because of their skin colour alone. This all changed when Christians justified their targeting of Africans based on scriptures and skin colour. The continued discrimination of Africans are purely on skin colour.

There is a UNESCO study on the impact of slavery on the dark continent. What would be edifying to members on DDO is to hear Christians express their opinions on this subject and also those who feel indignation by this unjustifiable act of inhumanity against a people of negroid ancestry.

What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?

Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East. Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.

For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.

In the Genesis passage, Africans were said to be the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah, who was cursed by his father after looking at his naked form. Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cushites' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.

In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans. In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.


The Trans-Atlantic Slave a Trade.

"In fact, for almost 150 years, Ghana, on Africa"s west coast, was the center of the British slave trade. Western traders arrived in ships loaded with manufactured goods to barter or trade for slaves. Those who were sold had often been captured in tribal warfare; some had simply been kidnapped to sell to European slave traders.

it is estimated from as many as 20 million West Africans were captured between the end of 15th century until 1870 (when the slave trade was abolished). Only half of them survived the harsh conditions on the voyages " and 10 million of them actually made it to the Americas.

Ghana's role in the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.

Ghanaians, it seems, view the Trans-Atlantic slave trade as an unfortunate historical human calamity which must not be allowed to happen again.
But the question is how many Ghanaians are truly aware of the role people living within that part of the continent at the time played in the actual act of capturing and selling their own people in return for things such as gunpowder and kola? The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and Ghana, an exhibition mounted as an attempt to educate the public on the historical occurrence of the slave trade, is currently on at the National Museum in Accra.

Not only is there evidence of some 35 slave markets dotted around the area in West Africa where Ghana is situated, there are also many routes, transit camps and objects available to establish that the trade took place under horrendous conditions. Several of these transit camps and markets have been identified within the area where Ghana is currently situated. And some of these inland sites are characterised by water cisterns, remnants of slave warehouses, rock boulders and trees with large or long exposed roots for chaining the enslaved. Burial grounds for slaves, and their ancestors as well as their masters are still visible at places like Salaga, Saakpuli and Kafaba in the Northern part of Ghana. Other places include Assin Manso and Effutu in the Central Region area, and Atorkor, Peki Dzake and Adafianu in Anloland.

The shaming of Africans.

Christianity played a major role in African slavery. But it was the Afticans themselves who made it possible and supplied the slaves. Their complicity and brutality in creating the dehumanizing conditions and treatment of captured Africans in slave camps betrayed the innate jungle culture that the world witnesses as uniquely African. This archetypal jungle behaviour is pervasive throughout African history and has earned Africa the distinction of being the dark continent and the negroid Africans identified as being of sub-human ancestry.

This exhibition tackles the story of the slave trade from another more important angle which has, hitherto, not been told much. It tells how deeply African chiefs and kings themselves were involved in the trading, ordering raids and kidnaping, and arranged markets where the captured were sold. Toward the end of the 17th century and in the first few decades of the 18th, slave raiding and kidnaping became the major occupation among the Akwamu, Akyem, Kwahu, Krepi and Fante in the southern part of the Gold Coast and among all the major ethnic groups in the northern part of the country. It tells how those captured had to walk several kilometres under brutal conditions. Chained to each other with neck to hands iron shackles, they only got to rest at transit camps before arriving at the markets. Their new masters would then distinguished them from each other by marking them with branding irons which were put in fire to become red hot before they were stamped on specific parts of their body.

Many of the original iron shackles, some specially made for children, and the branding irons with inscriptions like ITA and GHC are in this exhibition. Also on display are recent colour photographs of many of the transit camps and markets as they look today."

10 Conservatives Who Have Praised American Slavery
Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard has deemed slavery a blessing. His position is not as uncommon as you'd think.

https://www.alternet.org...

Christianity had no role in African Slavery. Christianity died out hundreds of years before that started and was not revived until after it had ended.

You cannot blame the actions of fake Christianity on true Christianity, though that is precisely what Satan wants you to do.

When Christian slave masters owned slaves and justified it though the bible. That is the role Christianity played in African slavery in Europe and America.

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