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FaustianJustice
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6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?
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SecularMerlin
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6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.


Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.



While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
ethang5
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6/14/2018 1:10:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?
Deb-8-A-Bull
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6/14/2018 1:16:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
It hurts me head.
I feels like it should start with.. Faust 13 : 24.
So if you Can just bammmmm up a sentence telling us what's happening here.
Clarify.

I wish I could say , I HATE LOGIC PROGRESSION,

I'll wait for a little talk on it .
SecularMerlin
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6/14/2018 2:49:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 1:10:32 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
Goldtop
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6/14/2018 3:16:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 1:10:32 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

Ethan happily drops by to let us all know the point of the OP went right over his head. Way to go, Ethan!! Nice try. Maybe next time.
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6/14/2018 3:51:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

At 6/14/2018 3:47:48 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
Wrong forum. Tard.

So sorry Faust, it looks like you're going to have to dumb down your posts for these folks. They're just not getting it.
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6/14/2018 4:12:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 2:49:45 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 1:10:32 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.
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6/14/2018 4:35:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 4:12:01 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 2:49:45 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 1:10:32 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

I don't believe in Galactus or his heralds either but I can gave discussion about their imaginary attributes. It's called a hypothetical situation.

That I do not believe in god's does not mean that I am unaware that there is a marked difference between Yahweh and Vishnu.

Are you really having trouble with this concept or are you just worried about losing face if you concede this completely rational point?
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
SecularMerlin
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6/14/2018 4:36:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 4:12:01 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 2:49:45 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 1:10:32 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

Also I have no evidence for or against the existence of some god(s), that is,why tgey must be evaluated on a case by case basis.
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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6/14/2018 4:42:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 4:12:01 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 2:49:45 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 1:10:32 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

Ethan wishes to further humiliate himself by admitting he never knew the concept of a discussion, hence wouldn't understand why details of the discussion are important, regardless of the topic and what either side offers.
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6/14/2018 4:56:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 1:16:16 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
It hurts me head.
I feels like it should start with.. Faust 13 : 24.

If only this was on youtube, then all you would have to do is move the little circle on the bottom red line with your mouse over to "13:24".

So if you Can just bammmmm up a sentence telling us what's happening here.
Clarify.

I wish I could say , I HATE LOGIC PROGRESSION,


I'll wait for a little talk on it .
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6/14/2018 5:04:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 3:16:30 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/14/2018 1:10:32 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

Ethan happily drops by to let us all know the point of the OP went right over his head. Way to go, Ethan!! Nice try. Maybe next time.

Lol. Ignorance and militancy. What a pair!
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6/14/2018 5:17:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 4:35:14 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 4:12:01 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

I don't believe in Galactus or his heralds either but I can gave discussion about their imaginary attributes. It's called a hypothetical situation.

Do you ask which hareld? I'm not talking about discussions. If I say to you, "Lets discuss the concept of god's omnipotence" then a question from the atheist about "which god" would make sense as a hypothetical discussion.

That I do not believe in god's does not mean that I am unaware that there is a marked difference between Yahweh and Vishnu.

You were not asked about the differences between any gods. You were not asked to discuss what people believe. You were asked what you thought. You lied with a completely inane question.

Are you really having trouble with this concept or are you just worried about losing face if you concede this completely rational point?

They are two different concepts slick. If you believe no gods exist, asking "which god" cannot possibly make any difference to your answer. Which is why you have to decietfully ooze over to discussing what people believe rather than what you believe.

The concept of the atheist discussing beliefs in god is rational, the concept of requiring the theist to answer "which god?" When you believe no gods exist is irrational and deceptive.

Perhaps deception is your goal?
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6/14/2018 5:21:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 4:36:23 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 4:12:01 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 2:49:45 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 1:10:32 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

Also I have no evidence for or against the existence of some god(s), that is,why tgey must be evaluated on a case by case basis.

Right. Though non-existent, one of them just might turn out to be true. If you rejected gods on a case by case basis, you would be agnostic, not atheist.

The question is impressively stupid. And quite deceptive.
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6/14/2018 5:53:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 5:21:09 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 4:36:23 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 4:12:01 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 2:49:45 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 1:10:32 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 12:57:18 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

Also I have no evidence for or against the existence of some god(s), that is,why tgey must be evaluated on a case by case basis.

Right. Though non-existent, one of them just might turn out to be true. If you rejected gods on a case by case basis, you would be agnostic, not atheist.

The question is impressively stupid. And quite deceptive.

I am an agnostic atheist. I acknowledge that some god(s) exist, it's just that I cannot maintain a belief in the absence of evidence.

That said many god concepts can be dismissed if they are self contradictory or if they contradict reality. Omnipotence is self contradictory for example, and omniscience contradicts reality as another example.
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
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-Lewis Carrol
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6/14/2018 6:02:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 5:53:02 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 5:21:09 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

Also I have no evidence for or against the existence of some god(s), that is,why tgey must be evaluated on a case by case basis.

Right. Though non-existent, one of them just might turn out to be true. If you rejected gods on a case by case basis, you would be agnostic, not atheist.

The question is impressively stupid. And quite deceptive.

I am an agnostic atheist.

Lol. Sure you are.

I acknowledge that some god(s) exist, it's just that I cannot maintain a belief in the absence of evidence.

But you can "acknowledge that some god(s) exist" sans evidence? Ok.

That said many god concepts can be dismissed if they are self contradictory or if they contradict reality. Omnipotence is self contradictory for example, and omniscience contradicts reality as another example.

That you have many other half-baked beliefs was not news to us. Tell us something we didn't know.
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6/14/2018 6:03:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 5:17:51 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 4:35:14 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 4:12:01 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

I don't believe in Galactus or his heralds either but I can gave discussion about their imaginary attributes. It's called a hypothetical situation.

Do you ask which hareld? I'm not talking about discussions. If I say to you, "Lets discuss the concept of god's omnipotence" then a question from the atheist about "which god" would make sense as a hypothetical discussion.

Ok so what's the problem?

That I do not believe in god's does not mean that I am unaware that there is a marked difference between Yahweh and Vishnu.

You were not asked about the differences between any gods. You were not asked to discuss what people believe. You were asked what you thought. You lied with a completely inane question.

I'm not sure what you mean since every discussion is different. If you are reffering to a particular incident a link would be appreciated.

Are you really having trouble with this concept or are you just worried about losing face if you concede this completely rational point?

They are two different concepts slick. If you believe no gods exist, asking "which god" cannot possibly make any difference to your answer. Which is why you have to decietfully ooze over to discussing what people believe rather than what you believe.

That depends entirely on the question. If the question is do you believe in god then the question is unnecessary, if however your question is what is god like or does god have this or that attribute then it is a necessary question in order to have a hypothetical discussion on the subject. Even the question could gid exists requires a little explanation of what you mean by god.

The concept of the atheist discussing beliefs in god is rational, the concept of requiring the theist to answer "which god?" When you believe no gods exist is irrational and deceptive.

Perhaps deception is your goal?

You really want to be right about this don't you ethang5. You want it badly enough to break the longstanding silence between us.

Let me ask you a question, do you think the dragon is large?
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6/14/2018 6:08:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 6:02:25 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 5:53:02 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 5:21:09 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, then all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

To some, this is a logical progression.

Lets try again, with the attempt to straw-man a collection of people removed...

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - Which Herald?
Comic Guy - Um... does it matter, they all kinda...
Non Comic Guy - Yes, it matters, which Herald?
Comic Guy - the first one, Silver Surfer, I suppose.
Non-Comic Guy - I don't read comic books, but... from what I have gathered in pop culture and casual reading, Norrin Radd at some point had his eyes opened on the matter.

And thus follows a conversation.

Now, which of these 2 conversations seems most likely to occur?

How about this one?

Comic Guy - Does Galactus' Herald feel regret for it's actions?
Non Comic Guy - I don't read comic books.

While it might seem impossible (for some), the notion of gods and goddess seems to others as mythology, something casually read about and investigated, and a matter of discussion on some degree as a matter of literary inquiry and discussion. This methodology could be applied to a lot of things....

Poker Player - What do you think of off suit hands?
Non-Poker player - What values?

etc etc.

What the heart of the matter is that for a vaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of conversations had around here, a certain premise is being assumed "True", that being for every "God is good" or "God is evil" that is suggested, the various debaters are expressing values based on assessment of available evidence, regardless of their opinion of the primary assumption in an effort to drive the conversation.

Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

You make some good points it's a shame this thread isn't being addressed

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

Also I have no evidence for or against the existence of some god(s), that is,why tgey must be evaluated on a case by case basis.

Right. Though non-existent, one of them just might turn out to be true. If you rejected gods on a case by case basis, you would be agnostic, not atheist.

The question is impressively stupid. And quite deceptive.

I am an agnostic atheist.

Lol. Sure you are.

Yes I am.

I acknowledge that some god(s) exist, it's just that I cannot maintain a belief in the absence of evidence.

But you can "acknowledge that some god(s) exist" sans evidence? Ok.

No I do not. I'm afraid I should have proof read better.I acknowledge that some god(s) may exist, it's just that I cannot maintain a belief in the absence of evidence. Sometimes I make mistakes. It is important to be able to admit it.

That said many god concepts can be dismissed if they are self contradictory or if they contradict reality. Omnipotence is self contradictory for example, and omniscience contradicts reality as another example.

That you have many other half-baked beliefs was not news to us. Tell us something we didn't know.

These are observations not beliefs. Omnipotence is self contradictory and omniscience contradicts reality.
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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6/14/2018 6:14:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 6:03:39 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 5:17:51 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

I don't believe in Galactus or his heralds either but I can gave discussion about their imaginary attributes. It's called a hypothetical situation.

Do you ask which hareld? I'm not talking about discussions. If I say to you, "Lets discuss the concept of god's omnipotence" then a question from the atheist about "which god" would make sense as a hypothetical discussion.

Ok so what's the problem?

That I do not believe in god's does not mean that I am unaware that there is a marked difference between Yahweh and Vishnu.

You were not asked about the differences between any gods. You were not asked to discuss what people believe. You were asked what you thought. You lied with a completely inane question.

I'm not sure what you mean since every discussion is different. If you are reffering to a particular incident a link would be appreciated.

Are you really having trouble with this concept or are you just worried about losing face if you concede this completely rational point?

They are two different concepts slick. If you believe no gods exist, asking "which god" cannot possibly make any difference to your answer. Which is why you have to decietfully ooze over to discussing what people believe rather than what you believe.

That depends entirely on the question. If the question is do you believe in god then the question is unnecessary, if however your question is what is god like or does god have this or that attribute then it is a necessary question in order to have a hypothetical discussion on the subject. Even the question could gid exists requires a little explanation of what you mean by god.

The concept of the atheist discussing beliefs in god is rational, the concept of requiring the theist to answer "which god?" When you believe no gods exist is irrational and deceptive.

Perhaps deception is your goal?

You really want to be right about this don't you ethang5.

The question is silly and deceptive slick. That is just a fact.

You want it badly enough to break the longstanding silence between us.

Lol. Long standing silence? Little dramatic isn't that?

Let me ask you a question, do you think the dragon is large?

If dragon is the name of one of your lies, then yes, its very large.
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6/14/2018 6:24:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 6:08:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:02:25 PM, ethang5 wrote:

I acknowledge that some god(s) exist, it's just that I cannot maintain a belief in the absence of evidence.

But you can "acknowledge that some god(s) exist" sans evidence? Ok.

No I do not. I'm afraid I should have proof read better.I acknowledge that some god(s) may exist, it's just that I cannot maintain a belief in the absence of evidence. Sometimes I make mistakes. It is important to be able to admit it.

Same principle should apply to your lies too.

That said many god concepts can be dismissed if they are self contradictory or if they contradict reality. Omnipotence is self contradictory for example, and omniscience contradicts reality as another example.

That you have many other half-baked beliefs was not news to us. Tell us something we didn't know.

These are observations not beliefs.

Lol. You observed omnipotence and omniscience? Ok.

Omnipotence is self contradictory and omniscience contradicts reality.

Keep babbling. You'll eventually find someone interested in your half-baked... observations.
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6/14/2018 6:27:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 6:14:35 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:03:39 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 5:17:51 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

I don't believe in Galactus or his heralds either but I can gave discussion about their imaginary attributes. It's called a hypothetical situation.

Do you ask which hareld? I'm not talking about discussions. If I say to you, "Lets discuss the concept of god's omnipotence" then a question from the atheist about "which god" would make sense as a hypothetical discussion.

Ok so what's the problem?

That I do not believe in god's does not mean that I am unaware that there is a marked difference between Yahweh and Vishnu.

You were not asked about the differences between any gods. You were not asked to discuss what people believe. You were asked what you thought. You lied with a completely inane question.

I'm not sure what you mean since every discussion is different. If you are reffering to a particular incident a link would be appreciated.

Are you really having trouble with this concept or are you just worried about losing face if you concede this completely rational point?

They are two different concepts slick. If you believe no gods exist, asking "which god" cannot possibly make any difference to your answer. Which is why you have to decietfully ooze over to discussing what people believe rather than what you believe.

That depends entirely on the question. If the question is do you believe in god then the question is unnecessary, if however your question is what is god like or does god have this or that attribute then it is a necessary question in order to have a hypothetical discussion on the subject. Even the question could gid exists requires a little explanation of what you mean by god.

The concept of the atheist discussing beliefs in god is rational, the concept of requiring the theist to answer "which god?" When you believe no gods exist is irrational and deceptive.

Perhaps deception is your goal?

You really want to be right about this don't you ethang5.

The question is silly and deceptive slick. That is just a fact.

I don't think you can day that objectively, although it might be said subjectively and depending on the situation.

You want it badly enough to break the longstanding silence between us.

Lol. Long standing silence? Little dramatic isn't that?

Perhaps but it is also an accurate depiction of the situation.

Let me ask you a question, do you think the dragon is large?

If dragon is the name of one of your lies, then yes, its very large.

No ethang5 I don't mean this as allegory for something else I am asking your opinion. Is the dragon large, and while we are on the subject is the dragon greedy?
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6/14/2018 6:30:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 6:24:16 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:08:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:02:25 PM, ethang5 wrote:

I acknowledge that some god(s) exist, it's just that I cannot maintain a belief in the absence of evidence.

But you can "acknowledge that some god(s) exist" sans evidence? Ok.

No I do not. I'm afraid I should have proof read better.I acknowledge that some god(s) may exist, it's just that I cannot maintain a belief in the absence of evidence. Sometimes I make mistakes. It is important to be able to admit it.

Same principle should apply to your lies too.

I am unaware of lying to you ethang5.

That said many god concepts can be dismissed if they are self contradictory or if they contradict reality. Omnipotence is self contradictory for example, and omniscience contradicts reality as another example.

That you have many other half-baked beliefs was not news to us. Tell us something we didn't know.

These are observations not beliefs.

Lol. You observed omnipotence and omniscience? Ok.

I have observed their definitions and I have observed reality.

Omnipotence is self contradictory and omniscience contradicts reality.

Keep babbling. You'll eventually find someone interested in your half-baked... observations.

You are interested enough to engage me in this discussion knowing that I will not post anything to you unless you specifically post to me first.
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6/14/2018 6:42:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 6:27:14 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:14:35 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:03:39 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 5:17:51 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

I don't believe in Galactus or his heralds either but I can gave discussion about their imaginary attributes. It's called a hypothetical situation.

Do you ask which hareld? I'm not talking about discussions. If I say to you, "Lets discuss the concept of god's omnipotence" then a question from the atheist about "which god" would make sense as a hypothetical discussion.

Ok so what's the problem?

That I do not believe in god's does not mean that I am unaware that there is a marked difference between Yahweh and Vishnu.

You were not asked about the differences between any gods. You were not asked to discuss what people believe. You were asked what you thought. You lied with a completely inane question.

I'm not sure what you mean since every discussion is different. If you are reffering to a particular incident a link would be appreciated.

Are you really having trouble with this concept or are you just worried about losing face if you concede this completely rational point?

They are two different concepts slick. If you believe no gods exist, asking "which god" cannot possibly make any difference to your answer. Which is why you have to decietfully ooze over to discussing what people believe rather than what you believe.

That depends entirely on the question. If the question is do you believe in god then the question is unnecessary, if however your question is what is god like or does god have this or that attribute then it is a necessary question in order to have a hypothetical discussion on the subject. Even the question could gid exists requires a little explanation of what you mean by god.

The concept of the atheist discussing beliefs in god is rational, the concept of requiring the theist to answer "which god?" When you believe no gods exist is irrational and deceptive.

Perhaps deception is your goal?

You really want to be right about this don't you ethang5.

The question is silly and deceptive slick. That is just a fact.

I don't think you can day that objectively, although it might be said subjectively and depending on the situation.

You want it badly enough to break the longstanding silence between us.

Lol. Long standing silence? Little dramatic isn't that?

Perhaps but it is also an accurate depiction of the situation.

Let me ask you a question, do you think the dragon is large?

If dragon is the name of one of your lies, then yes, its very large.

No ethang5 I don't mean this as allegory for something else I am asking your opinion. Is the dragon large, and while we are on the subject is the dragon greedy?
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6/14/2018 6:46:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 6:42:47 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:27:14 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:14:35 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:03:39 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 5:17:51 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

I don't believe in Galactus or his heralds either but I can gave discussion about their imaginary attributes. It's called a hypothetical situation.

Do you ask which hareld? I'm not talking about discussions. If I say to you, "Lets discuss the concept of god's omnipotence" then a question from the atheist about "which god" would make sense as a hypothetical discussion.

Ok so what's the problem?

That I do not believe in god's does not mean that I am unaware that there is a marked difference between Yahweh and Vishnu.

You were not asked about the differences between any gods. You were not asked to discuss what people believe. You were asked what you thought. You lied with a completely inane question.

I'm not sure what you mean since every discussion is different. If you are reffering to a particular incident a link would be appreciated.

Are you really having trouble with this concept or are you just worried about losing face if you concede this completely rational point?

They are two different concepts slick. If you believe no gods exist, asking "which god" cannot possibly make any difference to your answer. Which is why you have to decietfully ooze over to discussing what people believe rather than what you believe.

That depends entirely on the question. If the question is do you believe in god then the question is unnecessary, if however your question is what is god like or does god have this or that attribute then it is a necessary question in order to have a hypothetical discussion on the subject. Even the question could gid exists requires a little explanation of what you mean by god.

The concept of the atheist discussing beliefs in god is rational, the concept of requiring the theist to answer "which god?" When you believe no gods exist is irrational and deceptive.

Perhaps deception is your goal?

You really want to be right about this don't you ethang5.

The question is silly and deceptive slick. That is just a fact.

I don't think you can day that objectively, although it might be said subjectively and depending on the situation.

You want it badly enough to break the longstanding silence between us.

Lol. Long standing silence? Little dramatic isn't that?

Perhaps but it is also an accurate depiction of the situation.

Let me ask you a question, do you think the dragon is large?

If dragon is the name of one of your lies, then yes, its very large.

No ethang5 I don't mean this as allegory for something else I am asking your opinion. Is the dragon large, and while we are on the subject is the dragon greedy?
Dragon?

Yes janesix the dragon.
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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6/14/2018 6:48:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 6:46:59 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:42:47 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:27:14 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:14:35 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:03:39 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 5:17:51 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

I don't believe in Galactus or his heralds either but I can gave discussion about their imaginary attributes. It's called a hypothetical situation.

Do you ask which hareld? I'm not talking about discussions. If I say to you, "Lets discuss the concept of god's omnipotence" then a question from the atheist about "which god" would make sense as a hypothetical discussion.

Ok so what's the problem?

That I do not believe in god's does not mean that I am unaware that there is a marked difference between Yahweh and Vishnu.

You were not asked about the differences between any gods. You were not asked to discuss what people believe. You were asked what you thought. You lied with a completely inane question.

I'm not sure what you mean since every discussion is different. If you are reffering to a particular incident a link would be appreciated.

Are you really having trouble with this concept or are you just worried about losing face if you concede this completely rational point?

They are two different concepts slick. If you believe no gods exist, asking "which god" cannot possibly make any difference to your answer. Which is why you have to decietfully ooze over to discussing what people believe rather than what you believe.

That depends entirely on the question. If the question is do you believe in god then the question is unnecessary, if however your question is what is god like or does god have this or that attribute then it is a necessary question in order to have a hypothetical discussion on the subject. Even the question could gid exists requires a little explanation of what you mean by god.

The concept of the atheist discussing beliefs in god is rational, the concept of requiring the theist to answer "which god?" When you believe no gods exist is irrational and deceptive.

Perhaps deception is your goal?

You really want to be right about this don't you ethang5.

The question is silly and deceptive slick. That is just a fact.

I don't think you can day that objectively, although it might be said subjectively and depending on the situation.

You want it badly enough to break the longstanding silence between us.

Lol. Long standing silence? Little dramatic isn't that?

Perhaps but it is also an accurate depiction of the situation.

Let me ask you a question, do you think the dragon is large?

If dragon is the name of one of your lies, then yes, its very large.

No ethang5 I don't mean this as allegory for something else I am asking your opinion. Is the dragon large, and while we are on the subject is the dragon greedy?
Dragon?

Yes janesix the dragon.
What do you mean
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6/14/2018 6:49:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 6:48:05 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:46:59 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:42:47 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:27:14 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:14:35 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:03:39 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 5:17:51 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

I don't believe in Galactus or his heralds either but I can gave discussion about their imaginary attributes. It's called a hypothetical situation.

Do you ask which hareld? I'm not talking about discussions. If I say to you, "Lets discuss the concept of god's omnipotence" then a question from the atheist about "which god" would make sense as a hypothetical discussion.

Ok so what's the problem?

That I do not believe in god's does not mean that I am unaware that there is a marked difference between Yahweh and Vishnu.

You were not asked about the differences between any gods. You were not asked to discuss what people believe. You were asked what you thought. You lied with a completely inane question.

I'm not sure what you mean since every discussion is different. If you are reffering to a particular incident a link would be appreciated.

Are you really having trouble with this concept or are you just worried about losing face if you concede this completely rational point?

They are two different concepts slick. If you believe no gods exist, asking "which god" cannot possibly make any difference to your answer. Which is why you have to decietfully ooze over to discussing what people believe rather than what you believe.

That depends entirely on the question. If the question is do you believe in god then the question is unnecessary, if however your question is what is god like or does god have this or that attribute then it is a necessary question in order to have a hypothetical discussion on the subject. Even the question could gid exists requires a little explanation of what you mean by god.

The concept of the atheist discussing beliefs in god is rational, the concept of requiring the theist to answer "which god?" When you believe no gods exist is irrational and deceptive.

Perhaps deception is your goal?

You really want to be right about this don't you ethang5.

The question is silly and deceptive slick. That is just a fact.

I don't think you can day that objectively, although it might be said subjectively and depending on the situation.

You want it badly enough to break the longstanding silence between us.

Lol. Long standing silence? Little dramatic isn't that?

Perhaps but it is also an accurate depiction of the situation.

Let me ask you a question, do you think the dragon is large?

If dragon is the name of one of your lies, then yes, its very large.

No ethang5 I don't mean this as allegory for something else I am asking your opinion. Is the dragon large, and while we are on the subject is the dragon greedy?
Dragon?

Yes janesix the dragon.
What do you mean

I am asking ethang5 if he thinks that the dragon is large and also.8f he thinks the drag8n is greedy.
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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6/14/2018 6:54:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 6:49:47 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:48:05 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:46:59 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:42:47 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:27:14 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:14:35 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 6/14/2018 6:03:39 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 6/14/2018 5:17:51 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Gee, wonder who the idiot atheist is who always asks "which god?" Do you know sec-mer?

I often find that if I don't ask I am blind sided by someones unconventional beliefs. I find the question which god positively necessary in order to make sure that both parties are having the same conversation, don't you?

No. I think an atheist, who believes no gods exists, asking "which god?" is dishonestly stupid.

The person's unconventional beliefs can make no difference. You are atheist, no belief of god changes your position. To ask "which god?" is silly and deceptive.

I don't believe in Galactus or his heralds either but I can gave discussion about their imaginary attributes. It's called a hypothetical situation.

Do you ask which hareld? I'm not talking about discussions. If I say to you, "Lets discuss the concept of god's omnipotence" then a question from the atheist about "which god" would make sense as a hypothetical discussion.

Ok so what's the problem?

That I do not believe in god's does not mean that I am unaware that there is a marked difference between Yahweh and Vishnu.

You were not asked about the differences between any gods. You were not asked to discuss what people believe. You were asked what you thought. You lied with a completely inane question.

I'm not sure what you mean since every discussion is different. If you are reffering to a particular incident a link would be appreciated.

Are you really having trouble with this concept or are you just worried about losing face if you concede this completely rational point?

They are two different concepts slick. If you believe no gods exist, asking "which god" cannot possibly make any difference to your answer. Which is why you have to decietfully ooze over to discussing what people believe rather than what you believe.

That depends entirely on the question. If the question is do you believe in god then the question is unnecessary, if however your question is what is god like or does god have this or that attribute then it is a necessary question in order to have a hypothetical discussion on the subject. Even the question could gid exists requires a little explanation of what you mean by god.

The concept of the atheist discussing beliefs in god is rational, the concept of requiring the theist to answer "which god?" When you believe no gods exist is irrational and deceptive.

Perhaps deception is your goal?

You really want to be right about this don't you ethang5.

The question is silly and deceptive slick. That is just a fact.

I don't think you can day that objectively, although it might be said subjectively and depending on the situation.

You want it badly enough to break the longstanding silence between us.

Lol. Long standing silence? Little dramatic isn't that?

Perhaps but it is also an accurate depiction of the situation.

Let me ask you a question, do you think the dragon is large?

If dragon is the name of one of your lies, then yes, its very large.

No ethang5 I don't mean this as allegory for something else I am asking your opinion. Is the dragon large, and while we are on the subject is the dragon greedy?
Dragon?

Yes janesix the dragon.
What do you mean

I am asking ethang5 if he thinks that the dragon is large and also.8f he thinks the drag8n is greedy.

What dragon
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6/14/2018 6:55:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/14/2018 3:51:35 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/14/2018 3:26:07 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Now, who hear honestly finds fault with this?

At 6/14/2018 3:47:48 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
Wrong forum. Tard.

So sorry Faust, it looks like you're going to have to dumb down your posts for these folks. They're just not getting it.

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