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7/24/2018 3:26:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

It's not the being gay, it's the hatefulness of other believers.
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7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".
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7/25/2018 12:41:53 AM
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The Old Testament law was fulfilled or it wasn't. Being gay was on par with eating pork and getting tattoo. Funny only one is still a problem. Jesus is the only one who gets a say in what a Christian is forgiven for.

Matthew 6:14-15 (KJV)
14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Just saying.
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7/25/2018 4:24:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

Which god?
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7/25/2018 10:13:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

That is one for the muslims present. I should imagine that the threat of being flung from a highrise, would deter any muslim homosexual from approaching Allah. The thing here is though, is that according Yassine;
'everything that happens is by the will of Allah'. So this leaves muslims with a bit of a quandary, that being, a state of perplexity or uncertainty over what to do in a difficult situation, doesn't it?
On the one hand, by the will of Allah, homosexuals came into being and by the will of Allah, homsexuals should be killed.
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7/25/2018 10:47:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

Similarly, does being gay stop you from becoming an atheist?
In your personal experience?

If you wish to play stupid then, you are bound to get stupidity in return.
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7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...
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7/25/2018 4:17:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:24:53 AM, desmac wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

Which god?

wow, you have such a variety of responses all the way from a to a it seems....lol
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7/25/2018 4:19:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/24/2018 3:26:57 PM, Wizofoz wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

It's not the being gay, it's the hatefulness of other believers.

you keep telling yourself that...lol
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7/25/2018 4:22:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 10:13:25 AM, Studio-B wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

That is one for the muslims present. I should imagine that the threat of being flung from a highrise, would deter any muslim homosexual from approaching Allah. The thing here is though, is that according Yassine;
'everything that happens is by the will of Allah'. So this leaves muslims with a bit of a quandary, that being, a state of perplexity or uncertainty over what to do in a difficult situation, doesn't it?
On the one hand, by the will of Allah, homosexuals came into being and by the will of Allah, homsexuals should be killed.

contradictions seem to be the will of allah...lol
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7/25/2018 4:22:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 10:47:39 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

Similarly, does being gay stop you from becoming an atheist?
In your personal experience?

If you wish to play stupid then, you are bound to get stupidity in return.

stupidity is all you have, you prove that with every post..lol
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7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...
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7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??
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7/25/2018 4:34:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??

When someone identifies as a christian I tend to take them at their word. How can I determine someone's beliefs other than by their claims?
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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7/25/2018 4:35:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:34:33 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??

When someone identifies as a christian I tend to take them at their word. How can I determine someone's beliefs other than by their claims?

not what I asked but a good dodge non the less...
what in your opinion makes someone a Christian ??
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7/25/2018 4:40:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:35:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:34:33 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??

When someone identifies as a christian I tend to take them at their word. How can I determine someone's beliefs other than by their claims?

not what I asked but a good dodge non the less...
what in your opinion makes someone a Christian ??

I'm not sure, it seems to mean different things to different people but if I had to hazard a guess I would say their beliefs.
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
21stCenturyIconoclast
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7/25/2018 4:41:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:22:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 10:13:25 AM, Studio-B wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

That is one for the muslims present. I should imagine that the threat of being flung from a highrise, would deter any muslim homosexual from approaching Allah. The thing here is though, is that according Yassine;
'everything that happens is by the will of Allah'. So this leaves muslims with a bit of a quandary, that being, a state of perplexity or uncertainty over what to do in a difficult situation, doesn't it?
On the one hand, by the will of Allah, homosexuals came into being and by the will of Allah, homsexuals should be killed.

contradictions seem to be the will of allah...lol

_______________________________

GRACEOFGOD,

Your blatant religious IGNORANCE has no bounds again! You are an embarrassment to the primitive faith of Christianity AND JESUS as he watches over you (Proverbs 15:3).

Allah, Yahweh, and Jesus ARE THE SAME GOD FROM THE PROPHET ABRAHAM YOU BLATANT FOOL, therefore, you admit that Jesus CONTRADICTS HIMSELF!

GRACEOFGOD, is it time for you to take a break from DEBATE.ORG Religion Forum? Huh? You are embarrassing the hell out of your equally inept pseudo-christian fools!

Priceless religious ignorance brought to you by the ever so inept GRACEOFGOD, where Jesus is NOT smiling in any way towards this unbeleivable fool. :(

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7/25/2018 4:46:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

You have yet to qualify this statement. Whom are we discussing that identifies as Elvis Presley?
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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7/25/2018 4:52:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:41:01 PM, 21stCenturyIconoclast wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:22:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 10:13:25 AM, Studio-B wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

That is one for the muslims present. I should imagine that the threat of being flung from a highrise, would deter any muslim homosexual from approaching Allah. The thing here is though, is that according Yassine;
'everything that happens is by the will of Allah'. So this leaves muslims with a bit of a quandary, that being, a state of perplexity or uncertainty over what to do in a difficult situation, doesn't it?
On the one hand, by the will of Allah, homosexuals came into being and by the will of Allah, homsexuals should be killed.

contradictions seem to be the will of allah...lol

_______________________________

GRACEOFGOD,

Your blatant religious IGNORANCE has no bounds again! You are an embarrassment to the primitive faith of Christianity AND JESUS as he watches over you (Proverbs 15:3).

Allah, Yahweh, and Jesus ARE THE SAME GOD FROM THE PROPHET ABRAHAM YOU BLATANT FOOL, therefore, you admit that Jesus CONTRADICTS HIMSELF!

GRACEOFGOD, is it time for you to take a break from DEBATE.ORG Religion Forum? Huh? You are embarrassing the hell out of your equally inept pseudo-christian fools!

Priceless religious ignorance brought to you by the ever so inept GRACEOFGOD, where Jesus is NOT smiling in any way towards this unbeleivable fool. :(


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Hi Hak...
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7/25/2018 4:53:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:40:54 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:35:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:34:33 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??

When someone identifies as a christian I tend to take them at their word. How can I determine someone's beliefs other than by their claims?

not what I asked but a good dodge non the less...
what in your opinion makes someone a Christian ??

I'm not sure, it seems to mean different things to different people but if I had to hazard a guess I would say their beliefs.

still dodging....lol
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7/25/2018 4:59:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:41:01 PM, 21stCenturyIconoclast wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:22:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 10:13:25 AM, Studio-B wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

That is one for the muslims present. I should imagine that the threat of being flung from a highrise, would deter any muslim homosexual from approaching Allah. The thing here is though, is that according Yassine;
'everything that happens is by the will of Allah'. So this leaves muslims with a bit of a quandary, that being, a state of perplexity or uncertainty over what to do in a difficult situation, doesn't it?
On the one hand, by the will of Allah, homosexuals came into being and by the will of Allah, homsexuals should be killed.

contradictions seem to be the will of allah...lol

_______________________________

GRACEOFGOD,

Your blatant religious IGNORANCE has no bounds again!

NEVER MIND YOUR BULLSCHIT, EXPLAIN HOW YOU FIKIN LOT GEt AROUND THE FACT THAT YOUR GOD ALLAH CREATED EVERYTHING BY HIS WILL, THEN DECIDES SOME OF HIS WILLED CREATION SHOULD BE KILLED.?
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7/25/2018 5:04:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 4:53:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:40:54 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:35:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:34:33 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??

When someone identifies as a christian I tend to take them at their word. How can I determine someone's beliefs other than by their claims?

not what I asked but a good dodge non the less...
what in your opinion makes someone a Christian ??

I'm not sure, it seems to mean different things to different people but if I had to hazard a guess I would say their beliefs.

still dodging....lol

That is the best answer I can give. A c hristian is someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus. Do you have a different set of criteria? If so how do you avoid the no true Scotsman fallacy?
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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7/25/2018 5:06:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 5:04:36 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:53:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:40:54 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:35:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:34:33 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??

When someone identifies as a christian I tend to take them at their word. How can I determine someone's beliefs other than by their claims?

not what I asked but a good dodge non the less...
what in your opinion makes someone a Christian ??

I'm not sure, it seems to mean different things to different people but if I had to hazard a guess I would say their beliefs.

still dodging....lol

That is the best answer I can give. A c hristian is someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus. Do you have a different set of criteria? If so how do you avoid the no true Scotsman fallacy?

how would they find the information on the divinity of Jesus??
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7/25/2018 5:08:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 5:06:13 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 5:04:36 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:53:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:40:54 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:35:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:34:33 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??

When someone identifies as a christian I tend to take them at their word. How can I determine someone's beliefs other than by their claims?

not what I asked but a good dodge non the less...
what in your opinion makes someone a Christian ??

I'm not sure, it seems to mean different things to different people but if I had to hazard a guess I would say their beliefs.

still dodging....lol

That is the best answer I can give. A c hristian is someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus. Do you have a different set of criteria? If so how do you avoid the no true Scotsman fallacy?

how would they find the information on the divinity of Jesus??

I'm not sure what that has to do with believing. It also fails to address the question.
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7/25/2018 5:09:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 5:08:34 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 5:06:13 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 5:04:36 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:53:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:40:54 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:35:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:34:33 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??

When someone identifies as a christian I tend to take them at their word. How can I determine someone's beliefs other than by their claims?

not what I asked but a good dodge non the less...
what in your opinion makes someone a Christian ??

I'm not sure, it seems to mean different things to different people but if I had to hazard a guess I would say their beliefs.

still dodging....lol

That is the best answer I can give. A c hristian is someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus. Do you have a different set of criteria? If so how do you avoid the no true Scotsman fallacy?

how would they find the information on the divinity of Jesus??

I'm not sure what that has to do with believing. It also fails to address the question.

nice dodge, you should do this for a living..
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7/25/2018 5:13:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 5:09:56 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 5:08:34 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 5:06:13 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 5:04:36 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:53:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:40:54 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:35:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:34:33 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??

When someone identifies as a christian I tend to take them at their word. How can I determine someone's beliefs other than by their claims?

not what I asked but a good dodge non the less...
what in your opinion makes someone a Christian ??

I'm not sure, it seems to mean different things to different people but if I had to hazard a guess I would say their beliefs.

still dodging....lol

That is the best answer I can give. A c hristian is someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus. Do you have a different set of criteria? If so how do you avoid the no true Scotsman fallacy?

how would they find the information on the divinity of Jesus??

I'm not sure what that has to do with believing. It also fails to address the question.

nice dodge, you should do this for a living..

I'm not sure what you are getting at. Perhaps if you rephrase the question.
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
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7/25/2018 5:14:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2018 5:13:12 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 5:09:56 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 5:08:34 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 5:06:13 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 5:04:36 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:53:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:40:54 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:35:41 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:34:33 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:30:38 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:29:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:27:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:23:04 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/25/2018 4:16:31 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/25/2018 12:15:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/24/2018 3:23:45 PM, graceofgod wrote:
does being gay stop you from wanting to know God??
in your personal experience??

I don't really have any personal experience there, but judging by the number of openly gay Christians, the answer seems to be no. It doesn't inherently stop you from "wanting to know God".

hmm gay Christians!! such a strange concept...

There are openly homosexuals who identify as christian. I am uncertain what is strange about that.

there are heterosxuals and homosexuals who identify as Elvis Presley, that does not make it so...

Citations required. Also how do we determine who is a christian if not by their claim that they are christian?

hmm, what do you think makes someone a Christian....??

When someone identifies as a christian I tend to take them at their word. How can I determine someone's beliefs other than by their claims?

not what I asked but a good dodge non the less...
what in your opinion makes someone a Christian ??

I'm not sure, it seems to mean different things to different people but if I had to hazard a guess I would say their beliefs.

still dodging....lol

That is the best answer I can give. A c hristian is someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus. Do you have a different set of criteria? If so how do you avoid the no true Scotsman fallacy?

how would they find the information on the divinity of Jesus??

I'm not sure what that has to do with believing. It also fails to address the question.

nice dodge, you should do this for a living..

I'm not sure what you are getting at. Perhaps if you rephrase the question.

where would someone professing to believe in Jesus get their information about said Jesus???

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