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Harikrish
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7/29/2018 12:06:55 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
There seems to be a general impression because Africans were late to civilization the world saw them as sub humans and sold them as slaves starting with Arabs (1,400) years, Christians (400 years) and now African slaves are sold in Libya for $400 each.

It has been recorded.
1. No Black society has ever created a written language.
2. No Black society ever created a non-animistic religion.
3. No Black society ever developed a form of government besides primitive chiefdoms and big man structures.
4. No Black society ever managed to create or use the wheel. Although it seems astounding, Blacks never even invented the wheel.
5. No Black society ever grew crops. The Blacks of Africa never invented agriculture. They never learned how to domesticate vegetation for food. Africans only learned of rudimentary agriculture after Europeans arrived.
6. No Black society ever constructed a two story building. Before Europeans arrived no structure built by the Black Africans stood above one story, and no structure was constructed of anything but mud (even beavers build mud dwellings).
7. were captured and dragged off by Arabian and European slave traders there is no free exploration of Blacks outside of Africa.
8. Even to this present day, despite intensive excavations of Africa by archeologists no great Black accomplishments have been discovered. Blacks have no history. The concept that Blacks ever even had a "civilizations" is misleading. Civilization implies some kind of order; it implies some kind of culture. What kind of culture can one really have without a real religion, writing system, or technology? Civilization implies that a people group wears something other than animal"s skins, and lives in something other than dirt huts.
http://americansfordevolution.blogspot.com...

There are many more examples of Africa's late development and 1,700 years of African slavery many historians ironically claim were actually beneficial to Africa because it exposed Africans to the civilized world.

I would like to draw a fairer comparison than Trump's comments that all African countries are shitholes and list some of the things that blacks can appreciate as attributed to their achievements.

1. Black men respect black women.
The case against Bill Cosby proves blacks respect their women because all 50 women that Cosby raped were white women No black woman charged Bill Cosby with rape. You dont see that in any other race.

2. Millions are starving in Africa and 30 million more expected to die of starvation according to a UN report.
How Africans are preparing for those terrible days.

https://i.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com...
http://www.afrikanheritage.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
http://talkofnaija.com...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk...
http://themockdock.com...
https://southafricatoday.net...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.ytimg.com...

3. Pharmaceuticals are relatively unknown in Africa.
African treatment for AIDS, mental illness and extreme stupidity managed without drugs.
https://youtu.be...
https://youtu.be...

4. Africans know a thing of two about Global Warming and are big on recycling.
Africans discovered recycling.
https://i0.wp.com...
https://kadunanewsonline.com...
https://media.premiumtimesng.com...

And African women fetching water to drink from the same outdoor shitholes after the men are done. !!!
https://gdb.voanews.com...

5. Labelled as the rape capitals of the world (South Africa, Botswana and Lesotho). How Afticans are reducing violence against African women in innovative ways.
https://youtu.be...
https://i.ytimg.com...
http://all-that-is-interesting.com...
http://www.thebirdman.org...
https://speedwealthy.com...

6. Blacks excel in certain sports. if it involves catching a ball and running, they are unbeatable. Ironically that is why they are drawn to sports. it is a throwback from the slave days when they were beaten for stealing. But the games reward stealing and blacks reactively/instinctively outrun their pursuers which is why it's so appealing to blacks and why they excel in it.

Please join Harikrish in listing the achievement of Africans.
DDO has many posts listing the Great Achievements of Indians and not to come across as biased would like to share the platform with those that want to believe Black Lives Should Matter.

I invite all Blacks to step up and be appreciated and recognized!!!!

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.
EtrnlVw
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7/29/2018 12:26:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
In the religion forum really Hari? wow you have no shame, shame on you you're obviously sick. To answer the question yes, Africans have made incredible achievements in all facets of life even in foreign environments and I "judge" them on an individual basis not under one pathetic view like yours. Africa is beautiful (as well as the people) but it's a harsh climate zone and just surviving in some of these areas in an achievement you should never mock things you have no capacity to even comprehend. You've devolved from a very backwards member of DDO from the beginning to a current piece of scum, congratulations enjoy your achievements everybody knows you are a dirtbag. All countries and civilizations have poverty, slums and poor sickly people, the fact you focus squarely on that is quite disturbing this place needs serious adjustments. Have a great life, you'll probably never get a reply from me again.
Wizofoz
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7/29/2018 12:43:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 12:06:55 AM, Harikrish wrote:
There seems to be a general impression because Africans were late to civilization the world saw them as sub humans and sold them as slaves starting with Arabs (1,400) years, Christians (400 years) and now African slaves are sold in Libya for $400 each.

It has been recorded.
1. No Black society has ever created a written language.
2. No Black society ever created a non-animistic religion.
3. No Black society ever developed a form of government besides primitive chiefdoms and big man structures.
4. No Black society ever managed to create or use the wheel. Although it seems astounding, Blacks never even invented the wheel.
5. No Black society ever grew crops. The Blacks of Africa never invented agriculture. They never learned how to domesticate vegetation for food. Africans only learned of rudimentary agriculture after Europeans arrived.
6. No Black society ever constructed a two story building. Before Europeans arrived no structure built by the Black Africans stood above one story, and no structure was constructed of anything but mud (even beavers build mud dwellings).
7. were captured and dragged off by Arabian and European slave traders there is no free exploration of Blacks outside of Africa.
8. Even to this present day, despite intensive excavations of Africa by archeologists no great Black accomplishments have been discovered. Blacks have no history. The concept that Blacks ever even had a "civilizations" is misleading. Civilization implies some kind of order; it implies some kind of culture. What kind of culture can one really have without a real religion, writing system, or technology? Civilization implies that a people group wears something other than animal"s skins, and lives in something other than dirt huts.
http://americansfordevolution.blogspot.com...

There are many more examples of Africa's late development and 1,700 years of African slavery many historians ironically claim were actually beneficial to Africa because it exposed Africans to the civilized world.

I would like to draw a fairer comparison than Trump's comments that all African countries are shitholes and list some of the things that blacks can appreciate as attributed to their achievements.

1. Black men respect black women.
The case against Bill Cosby proves blacks respect their women because all 50 women that Cosby raped were white women No black woman charged Bill Cosby with rape. You dont see that in any other race.

2. Millions are starving in Africa and 30 million more expected to die of starvation according to a UN report.
How Africans are preparing for those terrible days.

https://i.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com...
http://www.afrikanheritage.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
http://talkofnaija.com...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk...
http://themockdock.com...
https://southafricatoday.net...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.ytimg.com...

3. Pharmaceuticals are relatively unknown in Africa.
African treatment for AIDS, mental illness and extreme stupidity managed without drugs.
https://youtu.be...
https://youtu.be...

4. Africans know a thing of two about Global Warming and are big on recycling.
Africans discovered recycling.
https://i0.wp.com...
https://kadunanewsonline.com...
https://media.premiumtimesng.com...

And African women fetching water to drink from the same outdoor shitholes after the men are done. !!!
https://gdb.voanews.com...

5. Labelled as the rape capitals of the world (South Africa, Botswana and Lesotho). How Afticans are reducing violence against African women in innovative ways.
https://youtu.be...
https://i.ytimg.com...
http://all-that-is-interesting.com...
http://www.thebirdman.org...
https://speedwealthy.com...

6. Blacks excel in certain sports. if it involves catching a ball and running, they are unbeatable. Ironically that is why they are drawn to sports. it is a throwback from the slave days when they were beaten for stealing. But the games reward stealing and blacks reactively/instinctively outrun their pursuers which is why it's so appealing to blacks and why they excel in it.

Please join Harikrish in listing the achievement of Africans.
DDO has many posts listing the Great Achievements of Indians and not to come across as biased would like to share the platform with those that want to believe Black Lives Should Matter.

I invite all Blacks to step up and be appreciated and recognized!!!!

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

Late to civilization? You know Egypt is in Africa, right?
Willows
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7/29/2018 12:59:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 12:06:55 AM, Harikrish wrote:
There seems to be a general impression because Africans were late to civilization the world saw them as sub humans and sold them as slaves starting with Arabs (1,400) years, Christians (400 years) and now African slaves are sold in Libya for $400 each.

It has been recorded.
1. No Black society has ever created a written language.
2. No Black society ever created a non-animistic religion.
3. No Black society ever developed a form of government besides primitive chiefdoms and big man structures.
4. No Black society ever managed to create or use the wheel. Although it seems astounding, Blacks never even invented the wheel.
5. No Black society ever grew crops. The Blacks of Africa never invented agriculture. They never learned how to domesticate vegetation for food. Africans only learned of rudimentary agriculture after Europeans arrived.
6. No Black society ever constructed a two story building. Before Europeans arrived no structure built by the Black Africans stood above one story, and no structure was constructed of anything but mud (even beavers build mud dwellings).
7. were captured and dragged off by Arabian and European slave traders there is no free exploration of Blacks outside of Africa.
8. Even to this present day, despite intensive excavations of Africa by archeologists no great Black accomplishments have been discovered. Blacks have no history. The concept that Blacks ever even had a "civilizations" is misleading. Civilization implies some kind of order; it implies some kind of culture. What kind of culture can one really have without a real religion, writing system, or technology? Civilization implies that a people group wears something other than animal"s skins, and lives in something other than dirt huts.
http://americansfordevolution.blogspot.com...

There are many more examples of Africa's late development and 1,700 years of African slavery many historians ironically claim were actually beneficial to Africa because it exposed Africans to the civilized world.

I would like to draw a fairer comparison than Trump's comments that all African countries are shitholes and list some of the things that blacks can appreciate as attributed to their achievements.

1. Black men respect black women.
The case against Bill Cosby proves blacks respect their women because all 50 women that Cosby raped were white women No black woman charged Bill Cosby with rape. You dont see that in any other race.

2. Millions are starving in Africa and 30 million more expected to die of starvation according to a UN report.
How Africans are preparing for those terrible days.

https://i.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com...
http://www.afrikanheritage.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
http://talkofnaija.com...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk...
http://themockdock.com...
https://southafricatoday.net...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.ytimg.com...

3. Pharmaceuticals are relatively unknown in Africa.
African treatment for AIDS, mental illness and extreme stupidity managed without drugs.
https://youtu.be...
https://youtu.be...

4. Africans know a thing of two about Global Warming and are big on recycling.
Africans discovered recycling.
https://i0.wp.com...
https://kadunanewsonline.com...
https://media.premiumtimesng.com...

And African women fetching water to drink from the same outdoor shitholes after the men are done. !!!
https://gdb.voanews.com...

5. Labelled as the rape capitals of the world (South Africa, Botswana and Lesotho). How Afticans are reducing violence against African women in innovative ways.
https://youtu.be...
https://i.ytimg.com...
http://all-that-is-interesting.com...
http://www.thebirdman.org...
https://speedwealthy.com...

6. Blacks excel in certain sports. if it involves catching a ball and running, they are unbeatable. Ironically that is why they are drawn to sports. it is a throwback from the slave days when they were beaten for stealing. But the games reward stealing and blacks reactively/instinctively outrun their pursuers which is why it's so appealing to blacks and why they excel in it.

Please join Harikrish in listing the achievement of Africans.
DDO has many posts listing the Great Achievements of Indians and not to come across as biased would like to share the platform with those that want to believe Black Lives Should Matter.

I invite all Blacks to step up and be appreciated and recognized!!!!

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

Africans have given the best, most expressive, most heart-felt, emotionally powerful music ever to have made an impression on society.

That one contribution continues to speak mountains more than all of the trivial claims that you are trying to make.
aservantsentout
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7/29/2018 1:04:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I think that it's the Winter, quite frankly. The Winter in Eurasia forced us black people to start to do more than was expected to survive anywhere else, and it showed us that seeds rise from the dead. In other words, death is not the end.
https://www.visitmeteora.travel...

So, no, it had nothing to do with skin color. Our ancestors were black. The Neanderthals had pale skin (and they themselves didn't amount to anything).
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7/29/2018 1:55:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
First controlled fire. First stone tools. First humans.
The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing.
-Socrates

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality
-Lewis Carrol
Harikrish
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7/29/2018 1:57:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 12:26:19 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
In the religion forum really Hari? wow you have no shame, shame on you you're obviously sick. To answer the question yes, Africans have made incredible achievements in all facets of life even in foreign environments and I "judge" them on an individual basis not under one pathetic view like yours. Africa is beautiful (as well as the people) but it's a harsh climate zone and just surviving in some of these areas in an achievement you should never mock things you have no capacity to even comprehend. You've devolved from a very backwards member of DDO from the beginning to a current piece of scum, congratulations enjoy your achievements everybody knows you are a dirtbag. All countries and civilizations have poverty, slums and poor sickly people, the fact you focus squarely on that is quite disturbing this place needs serious adjustments. Have a great life, you'll probably never get a reply from me again.

I was trying to sort out what you would consider an African achievement from your incoherent attack on Harikrish. Harsh climate and nice geography are not achievements. Don't disappoint, try to list at least one achievement for the record.

Even Jesus was not a total failure.
Harikrish
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7/29/2018 2:03:30 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 12:43:40 AM, Wizofoz wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:06:55 AM, Harikrish wrote:
There seems to be a general impression because Africans were late to civilization the world saw them as sub humans and sold them as slaves starting with Arabs (1,400) years, Christians (400 years) and now African slaves are sold in Libya for $400 each.

It has been recorded.
1. No Black society has ever created a written language.
2. No Black society ever created a non-animistic religion.
3. No Black society ever developed a form of government besides primitive chiefdoms and big man structures.
4. No Black society ever managed to create or use the wheel. Although it seems astounding, Blacks never even invented the wheel.
5. No Black society ever grew crops. The Blacks of Africa never invented agriculture. They never learned how to domesticate vegetation for food. Africans only learned of rudimentary agriculture after Europeans arrived.
6. No Black society ever constructed a two story building. Before Europeans arrived no structure built by the Black Africans stood above one story, and no structure was constructed of anything but mud (even beavers build mud dwellings).
7. were captured and dragged off by Arabian and European slave traders there is no free exploration of Blacks outside of Africa.
8. Even to this present day, despite intensive excavations of Africa by archeologists no great Black accomplishments have been discovered. Blacks have no history. The concept that Blacks ever even had a "civilizations" is misleading. Civilization implies some kind of order; it implies some kind of culture. What kind of culture can one really have without a real religion, writing system, or technology? Civilization implies that a people group wears something other than animal"s skins, and lives in something other than dirt huts.
http://americansfordevolution.blogspot.com...

There are many more examples of Africa's late development and 1,700 years of African slavery many historians ironically claim were actually beneficial to Africa because it exposed Africans to the civilized world.

I would like to draw a fairer comparison than Trump's comments that all African countries are shitholes and list some of the things that blacks can appreciate as attributed to their achievements.

1. Black men respect black women.
The case against Bill Cosby proves blacks respect their women because all 50 women that Cosby raped were white women No black woman charged Bill Cosby with rape. You dont see that in any other race.

2. Millions are starving in Africa and 30 million more expected to die of starvation according to a UN report.
How Africans are preparing for those terrible days.

https://i.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com...
http://www.afrikanheritage.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
http://talkofnaija.com...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk...
http://themockdock.com...
https://southafricatoday.net...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.ytimg.com...

3. Pharmaceuticals are relatively unknown in Africa.
African treatment for AIDS, mental illness and extreme stupidity managed without drugs.
https://youtu.be...
https://youtu.be...

4. Africans know a thing of two about Global Warming and are big on recycling.
Africans discovered recycling.
https://i0.wp.com...
https://kadunanewsonline.com...
https://media.premiumtimesng.com...

And African women fetching water to drink from the same outdoor shitholes after the men are done. !!!
https://gdb.voanews.com...

5. Labelled as the rape capitals of the world (South Africa, Botswana and Lesotho). How Afticans are reducing violence against African women in innovative ways.
https://youtu.be...
https://i.ytimg.com...
http://all-that-is-interesting.com...
http://www.thebirdman.org...
https://speedwealthy.com...

6. Blacks excel in certain sports. if it involves catching a ball and running, they are unbeatable. Ironically that is why they are drawn to sports. it is a throwback from the slave days when they were beaten for stealing. But the games reward stealing and blacks reactively/instinctively outrun their pursuers which is why it's so appealing to blacks and why they excel in it.

Please join Harikrish in listing the achievement of Africans.
DDO has many posts listing the Great Achievements of Indians and not to come across as biased would like to share the platform with those that want to believe Black Lives Should Matter.

I invite all Blacks to step up and be appreciated and recognized!!!!

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

Late to civilization? You know Egypt is in Africa, right?

No, The Ancient Egyptions were Not Africams.
https://www.thepostil.com...

Were the ancient Egyptians black or white? Scientists now know
https://bigthink.com...

The problem, it was thought, is that mummy DNA couldn"t be sequenced. But a group of international researchers, using unique methods, have overcome the barriers to do just that. They found that the ancient Egyptians were most closely related to the peoples of the Near East, particularly from the Levant. This is the Eastern Mediterranean which today includes the countries of Turkey, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. The mummies used were from the New Kingdom and a later period, (a period later than the Middle Kingdom) when Egypt was under Roman rule.

Modern Egyptians share 8% of their genome with central Africans, far more than ancient ones, according to the study, published in the journal Nature Communications. The influx of Sub-Saharan genes only occurred within the last 1,500 years. This could be attributed to the trans-Saharan slave trade or just from regular, long distance trade between the two regions. Improved mobility on the Nile during this period increased trade with the interior, researchers claim.
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7/29/2018 2:53:09 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 1:55:24 AM, SecularMerlin wrote:
First controlled fire. First stone tools. First humans.

The out of Africa theory has long been debunked.

Fossil discovery delivers blow to "Out of Africa" theory
By Neil Syson, The Sun May 23, 2017 | 9:13am |
https://nypost.com...

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED BY: http://journals.plos.org...

A fossilized tooth belonging to an ape-like creature that roamed Bulgaria 7.2 million years ago could rewrite history as we know it.

Scientists say the species, which is known only from a lower jawbone and a single tooth, may prove that modern man originated in Europe and not Africa. The findings were published in the journal PLOS ONE.

The creature, known as Graecopithecus freybergi and nicknamed "El Graeco," may be the oldest known member of the human lineage that began after a split from the branch that led to chimpanzees, our closest cousins.

The jawbone, which included teeth, was unearthed in 1944 in Athens, Greece.

The tooth was found in Azmaka, south-central Bulgaria, in 2009.

Researchers examined both sets of remains using sophisticated techniques such as CT scans and established their age by dating the sedimentary rock in which they were found.

They found dental root development that had characteristics not seen in chimps and their ancestors, placing El Graeco within the human lineage, known as hominins.

Until now, the oldest known hominin was thought to be Sahelanthropus, which lived 6 million to 7 million years ago in Chad, Africa.

Considering both Graecopithecus fossils hail from the Balkans, the eastern Mediterranean may have given rise to the human lineage, the researchers said.

However, the findings in no way call into question that our species, Homo sapiens, first appeared in Africa about 200,000 years ago and later migrated to other parts of the world, the researchers said.

"Our species evolved in Africa. Our lineage may not have," said paleoanthropologist Madelaine B"hme of Germany"s University of T"bingen.

She added that the findings "may change radically our understanding of early human origin."

Homo sapiens is only the latest in a long evolutionary hominin line that began with overwhelmingly ape-like species, followed by a succession of species acquiring more and more human traits over time.

University of Toronto paleoanthropologist David Begun said the possibility that the evolutionary split occurred outside Africa is not incompatible with later ancestors arising there.

"We know that many of the mammals of Africa did, in fact, originate in Eurasia and dispersed into Africa at around the time Graecopithecus lived," Begun said.

"So why not Graecopithecus as well?"

Graecopithecus is a mysterious species because its fossils are so sparse.

It was roughly the size of a female chimp and lived in a dry mixed woodland-grassland environment, similar to today"s African savanna, alongside antelopes, giraffes, rhinos, elephants, hyenas and warthogs.

Try accounting for the dark skin and negroid appearance only found among Africans. Then there is the genetically discovered low IQ among Africans. Now top that with the subhuman species Homo Naledi that is traced to negroid ancestors. Africans have no record of sea faring skills, no written script, no navigational concepts. They were simply hunters living in a jungle culture. Africa was lush with wild life and vegetation. The only reason there was any out of Africa migration was the Arab slave trade and later the European slave trade.
Europeans came up with the Neanderthals to explain their lineage. Asians have their own parallel evolution. Asians even ate the brain of monkeys which was later proven to be European and African common ancestors according to Darwin in his The descent of Man.
We are not related brother.
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7/29/2018 3:27:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 2:53:09 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/29/2018 1:55:24 AM, SecularMerlin wrote:
First controlled fire. First stone tools. First humans.

The out of Africa theory has long been debunked.

Fossil discovery delivers blow to "Out of Africa" theory
By Neil Syson, The Sun May 23, 2017 | 9:13am |
https://nypost.com...

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED BY: http://journals.plos.org...

A fossilized tooth belonging to an ape-like creature that roamed Bulgaria 7.2 million years ago could rewrite history as we know it.

Scientists say the species, which is known only from a lower jawbone and a single tooth, may prove that modern man originated in Europe and not Africa. The findings were published in the journal PLOS ONE.

The creature, known as Graecopithecus freybergi and nicknamed "El Graeco," may be the oldest known member of the human lineage that began after a split from the branch that led to chimpanzees, our closest cousins.

The jawbone, which included teeth, was unearthed in 1944 in Athens, Greece.

The tooth was found in Azmaka, south-central Bulgaria, in 2009.

Researchers examined both sets of remains using sophisticated techniques such as CT scans and established their age by dating the sedimentary rock in which they were found.

They found dental root development that had characteristics not seen in chimps and their ancestors, placing El Graeco within the human lineage, known as hominins.

Until now, the oldest known hominin was thought to be Sahelanthropus, which lived 6 million to 7 million years ago in Chad, Africa.

Considering both Graecopithecus fossils hail from the Balkans, the eastern Mediterranean may have given rise to the human lineage, the researchers said.

However, the findings in no way call into question that our species, Homo sapiens, first appeared in Africa about 200,000 years ago and later migrated to other parts of the world, the researchers said.

"Our species evolved in Africa. Our lineage may not have," said paleoanthropologist Madelaine B"hme of Germany"s University of T"bingen.

She added that the findings "may change radically our understanding of early human origin."

Homo sapiens is only the latest in a long evolutionary hominin line that began with overwhelmingly ape-like species, followed by a succession of species acquiring more and more human traits over time.

University of Toronto paleoanthropologist David Begun said the possibility that the evolutionary split occurred outside Africa is not incompatible with later ancestors arising there.

"We know that many of the mammals of Africa did, in fact, originate in Eurasia and dispersed into Africa at around the time Graecopithecus lived," Begun said.

"So why not Graecopithecus as well?"

Graecopithecus is a mysterious species because its fossils are so sparse.

It was roughly the size of a female chimp and lived in a dry mixed woodland-grassland environment, similar to today"s African savanna, alongside antelopes, giraffes, rhinos, elephants, hyenas and warthogs.

Try accounting for the dark skin and negroid appearance only found among Africans. Then there is the genetically discovered low IQ among Africans. Now top that with the subhuman species Homo Naledi that is traced to negroid ancestors. Africans have no record of sea faring skills, no written script, no navigational concepts. They were simply hunters living in a jungle culture. Africa was lush with wild life and vegetation. The only reason there was any out of Africa migration was the Arab slave trade and later the European slave trade.
Europeans came up with the Neanderthals to explain their lineage. Asians have their own parallel evolution. Asians even ate the brain of monkeys which was later proven to be European and African common ancestors according to Darwin in his The descent of Man.
We are not related brother.

I'm not sure that debunks the hypothesis so much as pushes back the time line but still some of the first written language and some of the oldest standing monuments and certainly those monuments are some of the most impressive.

No matter how you slice it Africa has a rich and important history and it takes a special (as in special ed) kind of racist to ignore that because of the color of the continent inhabitants.
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7/29/2018 3:35:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 12:06:55 AM, Harikrish wrote:
There seems to be a general impression because Africans were late to civilization the world saw them as sub humans and sold them as slaves starting with Arabs (1,400) years, Christians (400 years) and now African slaves are sold in Libya for $400 each.

It has been recorded.
1. No Black society has ever created a written language.
2. No Black society ever created a non-animistic religion.
3. No Black society ever developed a form of government besides primitive chiefdoms and big man structures.
4. No Black society ever managed to create or use the wheel. Although it seems astounding, Blacks never even invented the wheel.
5. No Black society ever grew crops. The Blacks of Africa never invented agriculture. They never learned how to domesticate vegetation for food. Africans only learned of rudimentary agriculture after Europeans arrived.
6. No Black society ever constructed a two story building. Before Europeans arrived no structure built by the Black Africans stood above one story, and no structure was constructed of anything but mud (even beavers build mud dwellings).
7. were captured and dragged off by Arabian and European slave traders there is no free exploration of Blacks outside of Africa.
8. Even to this present day, despite intensive excavations of Africa by archeologists no great Black accomplishments have been discovered. Blacks have no history. The concept that Blacks ever even had a "civilizations" is misleading. Civilization implies some kind of order; it implies some kind of culture. What kind of culture can one really have without a real religion, writing system, or technology? Civilization implies that a people group wears something other than animal"s skins, and lives in something other than dirt huts.
http://americansfordevolution.blogspot.com...

There are many more examples of Africa's late development and 1,700 years of African slavery many historians ironically claim were actually beneficial to Africa because it exposed Africans to the civilized world.

I would like to draw a fairer comparison than Trump's comments that all African countries are shitholes and list some of the things that blacks can appreciate as attributed to their achievements.

1. Black men respect black women.
The case against Bill Cosby proves blacks respect their women because all 50 women that Cosby raped were white women No black woman charged Bill Cosby with rape. You dont see that in any other race.

2. Millions are starving in Africa and 30 million more expected to die of starvation according to a UN report.
How Africans are preparing for those terrible days.

https://i.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com...
http://www.afrikanheritage.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
http://talkofnaija.com...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk...
http://themockdock.com...
https://southafricatoday.net...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.ytimg.com...

3. Pharmaceuticals are relatively unknown in Africa.
African treatment for AIDS, mental illness and extreme stupidity managed without drugs.
https://youtu.be...
https://youtu.be...

4. Africans know a thing of two about Global Warming and are big on recycling.
Africans discovered recycling.
https://i0.wp.com...
https://kadunanewsonline.com...
https://media.premiumtimesng.com...

And African women fetching water to drink from the same outdoor shitholes after the men are done. !!!
https://gdb.voanews.com...

5. Labelled as the rape capitals of the world (South Africa, Botswana and Lesotho). How Afticans are reducing violence against African women in innovative ways.
https://youtu.be...
https://i.ytimg.com...
http://all-that-is-interesting.com...
http://www.thebirdman.org...
https://speedwealthy.com...

6. Blacks excel in certain sports. if it involves catching a ball and running, they are unbeatable. Ironically that is why they are drawn to sports. it is a throwback from the slave days when they were beaten for stealing. But the games reward stealing and blacks reactively/instinctively outrun their pursuers which is why it's so appealing to blacks and why they excel in it.

Please join Harikrish in listing the achievement of Africans.
DDO has many posts listing the Great Achievements of Indians and not to come across as biased would like to share the platform with those that want to believe Black Lives Should Matter.

I invite all Blacks to step up and be appreciated and recognized!!!!

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

Im white, but ill step in on side of the blacks here. You claim blacks cant create great civilizations? Then explain this:

https://listverse.com...
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7/29/2018 4:24:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 2:53:09 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/29/2018 1:55:24 AM, SecularMerlin wrote:
First controlled fire. First stone tools. First humans.

The out of Africa theory has long been debunked.

Fossil discovery delivers blow to "Out of Africa" theory
By Neil Syson, The Sun May 23, 2017 | 9:13am |
https://nypost.com...

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED BY: http://journals.plos.org...

The Out of Africa Theory has not been "debunked". Experts disagree on the implications of Graecopithecus. https://en.wikipedia.org... Of course they would, it's just a jawbone and a few teeth.

Some sloppy journalists splashed headlines like "humans found to be from Europe, not Africa". Failing to note that Graecopithecus is not "human". It is believed to be a pre-human hominin. Here's an article that explains it: https://evolutionistx.wordpress.com...

So none of it changes the fact that homo sapiens, your species, first evolved in Africa. You're still a baby that hates its own cradle.
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7/29/2018 6:13:20 AM
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Blacks - sold into slavery by their own people have made tremendous progress. Black no longer exist as property. Unborn babies aborted exist as property!

Blacks got that Obama dude elected twice! Black athletes wow! Many blacks live honest hard working tax paying lives. Do blacks have failures as a people? What an absurd question! All peoples throughout their history as a people have failures!
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7/29/2018 3:04:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 12:59:37 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:06:55 AM, Harikrish wrote:
There seems to be a general impression because Africans were late to civilization the world saw them as sub humans and sold them as slaves starting with Arabs (1,400) years, Christians (400 years) and now African slaves are sold in Libya for $400 each.

It has been recorded.
1. No Black society has ever created a written language.
2. No Black society ever created a non-animistic religion.
3. No Black society ever developed a form of government besides primitive chiefdoms and big man structures.
4. No Black society ever managed to create or use the wheel. Although it seems astounding, Blacks never even invented the wheel.
5. No Black society ever grew crops. The Blacks of Africa never invented agriculture. They never learned how to domesticate vegetation for food. Africans only learned of rudimentary agriculture after Europeans arrived.
6. No Black society ever constructed a two story building. Before Europeans arrived no structure built by the Black Africans stood above one story, and no structure was constructed of anything but mud (even beavers build mud dwellings).
7. were captured and dragged off by Arabian and European slave traders there is no free exploration of Blacks outside of Africa.
8. Even to this present day, despite intensive excavations of Africa by archeologists no great Black accomplishments have been discovered. Blacks have no history. The concept that Blacks ever even had a "civilizations" is misleading. Civilization implies some kind of order; it implies some kind of culture. What kind of culture can one really have without a real religion, writing system, or technology? Civilization implies that a people group wears something other than animal"s skins, and lives in something other than dirt huts.
http://americansfordevolution.blogspot.com...

There are many more examples of Africa's late development and 1,700 years of African slavery many historians ironically claim were actually beneficial to Africa because it exposed Africans to the civilized world.

I would like to draw a fairer comparison than Trump's comments that all African countries are shitholes and list some of the things that blacks can appreciate as attributed to their achievements.

1. Black men respect black women.
The case against Bill Cosby proves blacks respect their women because all 50 women that Cosby raped were white women No black woman charged Bill Cosby with rape. You dont see that in any other race.

2. Millions are starving in Africa and 30 million more expected to die of starvation according to a UN report.
How Africans are preparing for those terrible days.

https://i.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com...
http://www.afrikanheritage.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
http://talkofnaija.com...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk...
http://themockdock.com...
https://southafricatoday.net...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.ytimg.com...

3. Pharmaceuticals are relatively unknown in Africa.
African treatment for AIDS, mental illness and extreme stupidity managed without drugs.
https://youtu.be...
https://youtu.be...

4. Africans know a thing of two about Global Warming and are big on recycling.
Africans discovered recycling.
https://i0.wp.com...
https://kadunanewsonline.com...
https://media.premiumtimesng.com...

And African women fetching water to drink from the same outdoor shitholes after the men are done. !!!
https://gdb.voanews.com...

5. Labelled as the rape capitals of the world (South Africa, Botswana and Lesotho). How Afticans are reducing violence against African women in innovative ways.
https://youtu.be...
https://i.ytimg.com...
http://all-that-is-interesting.com...
http://www.thebirdman.org...
https://speedwealthy.com...

6. Blacks excel in certain sports. if it involves catching a ball and running, they are unbeatable. Ironically that is why they are drawn to sports. it is a throwback from the slave days when they were beaten for stealing. But the games reward stealing and blacks reactively/instinctively outrun their pursuers which is why it's so appealing to blacks and why they excel in it.

Please join Harikrish in listing the achievement of Africans.
DDO has many posts listing the Great Achievements of Indians and not to come across as biased would like to share the platform with those that want to believe Black Lives Should Matter.

I invite all Blacks to step up and be appreciated and recognized!!!!

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

Africans have given the best, most expressive, most heart-felt, emotionally powerful music ever to have made an impression on society.

That one contribution continues to speak mountains more than all of the trivial claims that you are trying to make.

It is logical to believe music could not have developed in Africa when no black society created a written language. Music is rather sophisticated and requires a higher level of communication. Just saying.....

In History of music, wiki No African nation was mentioned.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org...
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7/29/2018 3:24:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 3:27:57 AM, SecularMerlin wrote:
At 7/29/2018 2:53:09 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/29/2018 1:55:24 AM, SecularMerlin wrote:
First controlled fire. First stone tools. First humans.

The out of Africa theory has long been debunked.

Fossil discovery delivers blow to "Out of Africa" theory
By Neil Syson, The Sun May 23, 2017 | 9:13am |
https://nypost.com...

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED BY: http://journals.plos.org...

A fossilized tooth belonging to an ape-like creature that roamed Bulgaria 7.2 million years ago could rewrite history as we know it.

Scientists say the species, which is known only from a lower jawbone and a single tooth, may prove that modern man originated in Europe and not Africa. The findings were published in the journal PLOS ONE.

The creature, known as Graecopithecus freybergi and nicknamed "El Graeco," may be the oldest known member of the human lineage that began after a split from the branch that led to chimpanzees, our closest cousins.

The jawbone, which included teeth, was unearthed in 1944 in Athens, Greece.

The tooth was found in Azmaka, south-central Bulgaria, in 2009.

Researchers examined both sets of remains using sophisticated techniques such as CT scans and established their age by dating the sedimentary rock in which they were found.

They found dental root development that had characteristics not seen in chimps and their ancestors, placing El Graeco within the human lineage, known as hominins.

Until now, the oldest known hominin was thought to be Sahelanthropus, which lived 6 million to 7 million years ago in Chad, Africa.

Considering both Graecopithecus fossils hail from the Balkans, the eastern Mediterranean may have given rise to the human lineage, the researchers said.

However, the findings in no way call into question that our species, Homo sapiens, first appeared in Africa about 200,000 years ago and later migrated to other parts of the world, the researchers said.

"Our species evolved in Africa. Our lineage may not have," said paleoanthropologist Madelaine B"hme of Germany"s University of T"bingen.

She added that the findings "may change radically our understanding of early human origin."

Homo sapiens is only the latest in a long evolutionary hominin line that began with overwhelmingly ape-like species, followed by a succession of species acquiring more and more human traits over time.

University of Toronto paleoanthropologist David Begun said the possibility that the evolutionary split occurred outside Africa is not incompatible with later ancestors arising there.

"We know that many of the mammals of Africa did, in fact, originate in Eurasia and dispersed into Africa at around the time Graecopithecus lived," Begun said.

"So why not Graecopithecus as well?"

Graecopithecus is a mysterious species because its fossils are so sparse.

It was roughly the size of a female chimp and lived in a dry mixed woodland-grassland environment, similar to today"s African savanna, alongside antelopes, giraffes, rhinos, elephants, hyenas and warthogs.

Try accounting for the dark skin and negroid appearance only found among Africans. Then there is the genetically discovered low IQ among Africans. Now top that with the subhuman species Homo Naledi that is traced to negroid ancestors. Africans have no record of sea faring skills, no written script, no navigational concepts. They were simply hunters living in a jungle culture. Africa was lush with wild life and vegetation. The only reason there was any out of Africa migration was the Arab slave trade and later the European slave trade.
Europeans came up with the Neanderthals to explain their lineage. Asians have their own parallel evolution. Asians even ate the brain of monkeys which was later proven to be European and African common ancestors according to Darwin in his The descent of Man.
We are not related brother.

I'm not sure that debunks the hypothesis so much as pushes back the time line but still some of the first written language and some of the oldest standing monuments and certainly those monuments are some of the most impressive.

No matter how you slice it Africa has a rich and important history and it takes a special (as in special ed) kind of racist to ignore that because of the color of the continent inhabitants.

If you look at the History of the Catholic Church towards African slavery (362AD to 1965), and the Arab slave trade. All Africans have ever known throughout their history was slavery.
CATHOLIC CHURCH TIMELINE OF CRITICAL POINTS IN HISTORY
YEAR. CHURCH"S POSITION
362 AD. The local Council at Gangra in Asia Minor excommunicates anyone encouraging a slave to despise his master or withdraw from his service. (Became part of Church Law from the 13th to 20th centuries).
354- 430 AD. St. Augustine teaches that the institution of slavery derives from God and is beneficial to slaves and masters.
650 AD. Pope Martin I condemns people who teach slaves about freedom or who encourage them to escape.
1179 AD. The Third Lateran Council imposes slavery on those helping the Saracens.
1226 AD. The legitimacy of slavery is incorporated in the Corpus Iuris Canonici, promulgated by Pope Gregory IX which remained official law of the Church until 1913. Canon lawyers worked out four "just titles" for holding slaves: slaves captured in war, persons condemned to slavery for a crime; persons selling themselves into slavery, including a father selling his child; children of a mother who is a slave.
1224- 1274 AD. St.Thomas Aquinas defends slavery as instituted by God in punishment for sin, and justified as being part of the "right of nations" and natural law. Children of a slave mother are rightly slaves even though they have not committed personal sin!
1452 AD. Pope Nicholas V issued the papal bull Dum Diversas on 18 June, 1452. It authorizes (King) Alfonso V of Portugal to reduce any "Saracens (Muslims) and pagans and any other unbelievers to perpetual slavery.
"
The same pope wrote the bull Romanus Pontifex on January 5, 1455 to the same Alfonso. As a follow-up to the Dum diversas, it extended to the Catholic nations of Europe dominion over discovered lands during the Age of Discovery. Along with sanctifying the seizure of non-Christian lands, it encouraged the enslavement of native, non-Christian peoples in Africa and the New World.
1493 AD. Pope Alexander VI authorizes the King of Spain to enslave non-Christians of the Americas who are at war with Christian powers.
1494 AD. Pope Alexander VI, in the 1494 Treaty of Tordesillas, divides the known New World between the two countries. As there was a need to locate a group to work in areas where the supply of indigenous labor was insufficient, to sustain their colonies, Spain and Portugal imported Africans.
1500- 1850 AD. Twelve million Africans arrived in the Americas to toil as slaves. The vast majority of these slaves worked in the Catholic colonies of Spain and Portugal
1548 AD. Pope Paul III confirms the right of clergy and laity to own slaves
1866 AD. Pope Pius IX declares:
Slavery itself, considered as such in its essential nature, is not at all contrary to the natural and divine law, and there can be several just titles of slavery, and these are referred to by approved theologians and commentators of the sacred canons " It is not contrary to the natural and divine law for a slave to be sold, bought, exchanged or given".
1888 AD Pope Leo XIII condemns slavery in more general terms, and supports the anti-slavery movement.
Continued....
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Continued from previous post.....

1918 AD. The new Code of Canon Law promulgated by Pope Benedictus XV condemns "selling any person as a slave". (There is no condemnation of "owning" slaves, however, and that was viewed as an entirely distinct issue at the time!).
1965 AD. The Second Vatican Council defends basic human rights and denounces all violations of human integrity, including slavery (Gaudium et Spes, no 27,29,67).
Table prepared by John Wijngaards, with data from: J.F.Maxwell,
The Development of Catholic Doctrine concerning Slavery
World Jurist 11 (1969-70)" pp. 147-192 and 291-324.
[ from http://www.womenpriests.org... ]
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7/29/2018 3:32:46 PM
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Wow Harikrish you can't even stay on topic when it's your topic. Just be clear though the abuses suffered by africans and their descendents by christians, muslims and indeed fellow Africans does not invalidate African achievements.
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7/29/2018 5:39:03 PM
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At 7/29/2018 3:32:46 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:

Wow Harikrish you can't even stay on topic when it's your topic.

ROFL!!!

Self spamming, and now, self trolling.
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7/29/2018 5:50:59 PM
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At 7/29/2018 3:35:02 AM, saint77 wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:06:55 AM, Harikrish wrote:
There seems to be a general impression because Africans were late to civilization the world saw them as sub humans and sold them as slaves starting with Arabs (1,400) years, Christians (400 years) and now African slaves are sold in Libya for $400 each.

It has been recorded.
1. No Black society has ever created a written language.
2. No Black society ever created a non-animistic religion.
3. No Black society ever developed a form of government besides primitive chiefdoms and big man structures.
4. No Black society ever managed to create or use the wheel. Although it seems astounding, Blacks never even invented the wheel.
5. No Black society ever grew crops. The Blacks of Africa never invented agriculture. They never learned how to domesticate vegetation for food. Africans only learned of rudimentary agriculture after Europeans arrived.
6. No Black society ever constructed a two story building. Before Europeans arrived no structure built by the Black Africans stood above one story, and no structure was constructed of anything but mud (even beavers build mud dwellings).
7. were captured and dragged off by Arabian and European slave traders there is no free exploration of Blacks outside of Africa.
8. Even to this present day, despite intensive excavations of Africa by archeologists no great Black accomplishments have been discovered. Blacks have no history. The concept that Blacks ever even had a "civilizations" is misleading. Civilization implies some kind of order; it implies some kind of culture. What kind of culture can one really have without a real religion, writing system, or technology? Civilization implies that a people group wears something other than animal"s skins, and lives in something other than dirt huts.
http://americansfordevolution.blogspot.com...

There are many more examples of Africa's late development and 1,700 years of African slavery many historians ironically claim were actually beneficial to Africa because it exposed Africans to the civilized world.

I would like to draw a fairer comparison than Trump's comments that all African countries are shitholes and list some of the things that blacks can appreciate as attributed to their achievements.

1. Black men respect black women.
The case against Bill Cosby proves blacks respect their women because all 50 women that Cosby raped were white women No black woman charged Bill Cosby with rape. You dont see that in any other race.

2. Millions are starving in Africa and 30 million more expected to die of starvation according to a UN report.
How Africans are preparing for those terrible days.

https://i.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com...
http://www.afrikanheritage.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
http://talkofnaija.com...
http://themockdock.com...
https://southafricatoday.net...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://i.pinimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...

3. Pharmaceuticals are relatively unknown in Africa.
African treatment for AIDS, mental illness and extreme stupidity managed without drugs.
https://youtu.be...
https://youtu.be...

4. Africans know a thing of two about Global Warming and are big on recycling.
Africans discovered recycling.
https://i0.wp.com...
https://kadunanewsonline.com...
https://media.premiumtimesng.com...

And African women fetching water to drink from the same outdoor shitholes after the men are done. !!!
https://gdb.voanews.com...

5. Labelled as the rape capitals of the world (South Africa, Botswana and Lesotho). How Afticans are reducing violence against African women in innovative ways.
https://youtu.be...
https://i.ytimg.com...
http://all-that-is-interesting.com...
http://www.thebirdman.org...
https://speedwealthy.com...

6. Blacks excel in certain sports. if it involves catching a ball and running, they are unbeatable. Ironically that is why they are drawn to sports. it is a throwback from the slave days when they were beaten for stealing. But the games reward stealing and blacks reactively/instinctively outrun their pursuers which is why it's so appealing to blacks and why they excel in it.

Please join Harikrish in listing the achievement of Africans.
DDO has many posts listing the Great Achievements of Indians and not to come across as biased would like to share the platform with those that want to believe Black Lives Should Matter.

I invite all Blacks to step up and be appreciated and recognized!!!!

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

Im white, but ill step in on side of the blacks here. You claim blacks cant create great civilizations? Then explain this:

https://listverse.com...

Chattel slavery had been legal and widespread throughout North Africa when the region was controlled by the Roman Empire (47 BC " ca. 500 AD). A slave trade bringing Saharans through the desert to North Africa, which existed in Roman times, continued and documentary evidence in the Nile Valley shows it to have been regulated there by treaty.[8] Chattel slavery persisted after the fall of the Roman empire in the largely Christian communities of the region. After the Islamic expansion into most of the region, the practices continued and eventually, the chattel form of slavery spread to major societies on the southern end of the Sahara (such as Mali, Songhai, and Ghana).[1]

So as early as 47BC North Africa was a slave basket of the Roman a empire. Then there was the Arab slave trade of Africans and finally Christianity's role in African slavery.
The only thing Africans know is slavery.

No great inventions came from Africa.

Even today African answer to AIDS, mental illness and extreme stupidity.
https://youtu.be...
https://youtu.be...

Africans got it backwards on how to raise cattle?
https://youtu.be...
https://i.ytimg.com...
http://all-that-is-interesting.com...
https://speedwealthy.com...
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7/29/2018 6:07:23 PM
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At 7/29/2018 6:13:20 AM, mosc wrote:
Blacks - sold into slavery by their own people have made tremendous progress. Black no longer exist as property. Unborn babies aborted exist as property!

Blacks got that Obama dude elected twice! Black athletes wow! Many blacks live honest hard working tax paying lives. Do blacks have failures as a people? What an absurd question! All peoples throughout their history as a people have failures!

The Black Lives Matter is an admittance of failure by Blacks to gain acceptance in America. It doesn't help when Africa is a basket case. Trump set the record right by calling all African countries shithole countries.
Blacks are following the white sports legends just like they embraced the religion of their white Christian masters.
Nothing good has ever come out of Africa.
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7/29/2018 6:09:40 PM
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At 7/29/2018 3:32:46 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
Wow Harikrish you can't even stay on topic when it's your topic. Just be clear though the abuses suffered by africans and their descendents by christians, muslims and indeed fellow Africans does not invalidate African achievements.

So please list some. That's what this topic is about.
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7/29/2018 6:12:25 PM
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At 7/29/2018 5:39:03 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 7/29/2018 3:32:46 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:

Wow Harikrish you can't even stay on topic when it's your topic.

ROFL!!!

Self spamming, and now, self trolling.

Thank you for finally stepping up and being recognized!!!. Now list some of your African people's achievements.
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7/29/2018 6:29:54 PM
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Politically incorrect and well documented fact: ALL human culture, civilisation, technology and morality comes from the White race.
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7/29/2018 6:54:54 PM
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At 7/29/2018 6:09:40 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/29/2018 3:32:46 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
Wow Harikrish you can't even stay on topic when it's your topic. Just be clear though the abuses suffered by africans and their descendents by christians, muslims and indeed fellow Africans does not invalidate African achievements.

So please list some. That's what this topic is about.

First fire firstvstonr tools first him and one of the first written language some of the first and still most impressive monuments. How many do I have to list before you acknowledge that there are many?
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7/29/2018 6:56:04 PM
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At 7/29/2018 5:39:03 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 7/29/2018 3:32:46 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:

Wow Harikrish you can't even stay on topic when it's your topic.

ROFL!!!

Self spamming, and now, self trolling.

I don't usually engage harikrish but this thread is a special kind of stupid.
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7/29/2018 7:04:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 5:50:59 PM, Harikrish wrote::
Chattel slavery had been legal and widespread throughout North Africa when the region was controlled by the Roman Empire (47 BC " ca. 500 AD). A slave trade bringing Saharans through the desert to North Africa, which existed in Roman times, continued and documentary evidence in the Nile Valley shows it to have been regulated there by treaty.[8] Chattel slavery persisted after the fall of the Roman empire in the largely Christian communities of the region. After the Islamic expansion into most of the region, the practices continued and eventually, the chattel form of slavery spread to major societies on the southern end of the Sahara (such as Mali, Songhai, and Ghana).[1]

So as early as 47BC North Africa was a slave basket of the Roman a empire. Then there was the Arab slave trade of Africans and finally Christianity's role in African slavery.
The only thing Africans know is slavery.

No great inventions came from Africa.

Even today African answer to AIDS, mental illness and extreme stupidity.
https://youtu.be...
https://youtu.be...

Africans got it backwards on how to raise cattle?
https://youtu.be...
https://i.ytimg.com...
http://all-that-is-interesting.com....

The barbarism of the roman empire is well known, and one of the first things the christians did when rome became christian, was to ban things like gladiator battles and killing for entertainment in places like colloseum where thousands of christians had been martyred:

The church were as key in stopping slavery in my pagan scandinavian country as it was in the english speaking countries. And it was christian british empire that forced the slaveowning pagan indians to stop their slavetrade:

https://en.wikipedia.org...

https://en.wikipedia.org...
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7/29/2018 10:56:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 6:29:54 PM, Terran_01 wrote:
Politically incorrect and well documented fact: ALL human culture, civilisation, technology and morality comes from the White race.

Politically correct and well documented fact. The white race evolved from Africans.
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7/30/2018 3:29:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 10:56:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
Politically correct and well documented fact. The white race evolved from Africans.

False. Politically correct propaganda, based off a deliberate misquote from the '60,000 year' theory that states the Negroid and Caucasoid races have a common ancestor, due to cross breeding that dominated the small Negroid population. Negroids are only 70,000 years old. Caucasoids are 1-2 million years old. Here's one of hundreds of comparisons to show the evolutionary separation.

https://i.imgur.com...

And then there's IQ, where Negroid IQ is half the Caucasoid IQ and where Negroid IQ ranges overlap with Chimpanzees. And 90% of the world's geniuses are Caucasoid, while Caucasoids make up only 4% of the world population.

Contrary to popular belief, Negroids only lived in Central Africa up until very recently. Caucasoids lived in Northern Africa until very recently. Caucasoids occupied most of the world in ancient times, possibly all of the world with recent discoveries that are highly censored and people are being murdered for revealing.

And to say that the Caucasoid race evolved from Negroids, is to admit that Negroids didn't evolve and Caucasoids did. Either way, you lose.

If white skin evolved from black skin, then how do you explain the following...

Pigs have white skin.
Dogs have white skin.
Cats have white skin.
Rats have white skin.
Chimpanzees have white skin.
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7/30/2018 3:35:27 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/30/2018 3:29:59 AM, Terran_01 wrote:
At 7/29/2018 10:56:40 PM, SecularMerlin wrote:
Politically correct and well documented fact. The white race evolved from Africans.

False. Politically correct propaganda, based off a deliberate misquote from the '60,000 year' theory that states the Negroid and Caucasoid races have a common ancestor, due to cross breeding that dominated the small Negroid population. Negroids are only 70,000 years old. Caucasoids are 1-2 million years old. Here's one of hundreds of comparisons to show the evolutionary separation.

https://i.imgur.com...

And then there's IQ, where Negroid IQ is half the Caucasoid IQ and where Negroid IQ ranges overlap with Chimpanzees. And 90% of the world's geniuses are Caucasoid, while Caucasoids make up only 4% of the world population.

Contrary to popular belief, Negroids only lived in Central Africa up until very recently. Caucasoids lived in Northern Africa until very recently. Caucasoids occupied most of the world in ancient times, possibly all of the world with recent discoveries that are highly censored and people are being murdered for revealing.

And to say that the Caucasoid race evolved from Negroids, is to admit that Negroids didn't evolve and Caucasoids did. Either way, you lose.

If white skin evolved from black skin, then how do you explain the following...

Pigs have white skin.
Dogs have white skin.
Cats have white skin.
Rats have white skin.
Chimpanzees have white skin.
All skin and soul comes from the same damn origin. Doesn't matter the form or place, all creation comes out of the heart of the Creator. It's nonsensical to separate and compare! you are all one lol. So mock yourselves.
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7/30/2018 7:33:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/29/2018 3:04:41 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:59:37 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:06:55 AM, Harikrish wrote:
There seems to be a general impression because Africans were late to civilization the world saw them as sub humans and sold them as slaves starting with Arabs (1,400) years, Christians (400 years) and now African slaves are sold in Libya for $400 each.

It has been recorded.
1. No Black society has ever created a written language.
2. No Black society ever created a non-animistic religion.
3. No Black society ever developed a form of government besides primitive chiefdoms and big man structures.
4. No Black society ever managed to create or use the wheel. Although it seems astounding, Blacks never even invented the wheel.
5. No Black society ever grew crops. The Blacks of Africa never invented agriculture. They never learned how to domesticate vegetation for food. Africans only learned of rudimentary agriculture after Europeans arrived.
6. No Black society ever constructed a two story building. Before Europeans arrived no structure built by the Black Africans stood above one story, and no structure was constructed of anything but mud (even beavers build mud dwellings).
7. were captured and dragged off by Arabian and European slave traders there is no free exploration of Blacks outside of Africa.
8. Even to this present day, despite intensive excavations of Africa by archeologists no great Black accomplishments have been discovered. Blacks have no history. The concept that Blacks ever even had a "civilizations" is misleading. Civilization implies some kind of order; it implies some kind of culture. What kind of culture can one really have without a real religion, writing system, or technology? Civilization implies that a people group wears something other than animal"s skins, and lives in something other than dirt huts.
http://americansfordevolution.blogspot.com...

There are many more examples of Africa's late development and 1,700 years of African slavery many historians ironically claim were actually beneficial to Africa because it exposed Africans to the civilized world.

I would like to draw a fairer comparison than Trump's comments that all African countries are shitholes and list some of the things that blacks can appreciate as attributed to their achievements.

1. Black men respect black women.
The case against Bill Cosby proves blacks respect their women because all 50 women that Cosby raped were white women No black woman charged Bill Cosby with rape. You dont see that in any other race.

2. Millions are starving in Africa and 30 million more expected to die of starvation according to a UN report.
How Africans are preparing for those terrible days.

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https://lh5.googleusercontent.com...
http://www.afrikanheritage.com...
https://pbs.twimg.com...
http://talkofnaija.com...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk...
http://themockdock.com...
https://southafricatoday.net...
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3. Pharmaceuticals are relatively unknown in Africa.
African treatment for AIDS, mental illness and extreme stupidity managed without drugs.
https://youtu.be...
https://youtu.be...

4. Africans know a thing of two about Global Warming and are big on recycling.
Africans discovered recycling.
https://i0.wp.com...
https://kadunanewsonline.com...
https://media.premiumtimesng.com...

And African women fetching water to drink from the same outdoor shitholes after the men are done. !!!
https://gdb.voanews.com...

5. Labelled as the rape capitals of the world (South Africa, Botswana and Lesotho). How Afticans are reducing violence against African women in innovative ways.
https://youtu.be...
https://i.ytimg.com...
http://all-that-is-interesting.com...
http://www.thebirdman.org...
https://speedwealthy.com...

6. Blacks excel in certain sports. if it involves catching a ball and running, they are unbeatable. Ironically that is why they are drawn to sports. it is a throwback from the slave days when they were beaten for stealing. But the games reward stealing and blacks reactively/instinctively outrun their pursuers which is why it's so appealing to blacks and why they excel in it.

Please join Harikrish in listing the achievement of Africans.
DDO has many posts listing the Great Achievements of Indians and not to come across as biased would like to share the platform with those that want to believe Black Lives Should Matter.

I invite all Blacks to step up and be appreciated and recognized!!!!

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

Africans have given the best, most expressive, most heart-felt, emotionally powerful music ever to have made an impression on society.

That one contribution continues to speak mountains more than all of the trivial claims that you are trying to make.

It is logical to believe music could not have developed in Africa when no black society created a written language. Music is rather sophisticated and requires a higher level of communication. Just saying.....

In History of music, wiki No African nation was mentioned.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

".......the first music may have been invented in Africa".
(History of music, Wikipedia)
And stop sending those pictures of those booty-liscious women....they get me too excited.

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