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7/29/2018 12:51:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Why don't you reach out to the Fire department in your local area, AND see what they think of your question?

Or maybe mental health and see what they think as well?

You're a very odd and weird individual?
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7/29/2018 6:25:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/29/2018 12:51:32 PM, TKDB wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:

Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Why don't you reach out to the Fire department in your local area, AND see what they think of your question?

Or maybe mental health and see what they think as well?

You're a very odd and weird individual?

Lol. I don't think anyone other than dee has been more pawned in a 2nd post than this doofus.
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7/29/2018 10:09:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Should we let group homes burn down. Police stations. Jails If the fire fighters are Christian can they let yours burn?
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7/30/2018 3:28:33 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Because a burning building is a threat to human life and public safety.
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7/30/2018 7:25:37 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/29/2018 10:09:02 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
Should we let group homes burn down. Police stations. Jails If the fire fighters are Christian can they let yours burn?
Do Police and Prisons pay tax?
So far as what Christian firefighters will do.....who knows?
Perhaps they will just sit at the fire station and pray for the fire to go out.

And, when the fire doesn't go out...."Ah well, God works in mysterious ways and it was His will to let all those kids in the disabled home burn to death".
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7/30/2018 7:27:37 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 3:28:33 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Because a burning building is a threat to human life and public safety.

Some may argue that a Church which remains intact is a threat to human life and public safety.
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7/30/2018 7:32:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 7:27:37 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 3:28:33 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Because a burning building is a threat to human life and public safety.

Some may argue that a Church which remains intact is a threat to human life and public safety.

Morons may argue that yes, but we generally do not make public policy based on the arguments of morons.
Willows
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7/30/2018 7:42:33 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 7:32:24 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 7/30/2018 7:27:37 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 3:28:33 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Because a burning building is a threat to human life and public safety.

Some may argue that a Church which remains intact is a threat to human life and public safety.

Morons may argue that yes, but we generally do not make public policy based on the arguments of morons.

And we make public policy whereby everyone pays their fair share of taxes.....
....Oh, except for Churches, that is.
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7/30/2018 9:20:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 7:27:37 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 3:28:33 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Because a burning building is a threat to human life and public safety.

Some may argue that a Church which remains intact is a threat to human life and public safety.

Really, Wills? A church poses the same urgent threat to human life and public safety that a burning building does? A church is such an unmitigatedly destructive force within the community that it would be better to stand by and let an uncontrolled blaze burn down whatever or whomever is within the premises? Costing thousands in property damage, imperiling everyone in the vicinity, disrupting all charity events hosted on the property, destroying all free goods or free beds kept by the church for the needy?

You're demonstrating the exact kind of black and white thinking I find so repelling in religious extremists. I'm worried that you and bul are on the cusp of outright dehumanizing theists. These are your fellow human beings on planet Earth. If you don't help them in their hour of greatest need, why should you deserve any help yourself? The very title of this thread plays right into everything theists say about atheists being morally stunted.
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7/30/2018 9:52:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 9:20:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/30/2018 7:27:37 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 3:28:33 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Because a burning building is a threat to human life and public safety.

Some may argue that a Church which remains intact is a threat to human life and public safety.

Really, Wills? A church poses the same urgent threat to human life and public safety that a burning building does? A church is such an unmitigatedly destructive force within the community that it would be better to stand by and let an uncontrolled blaze burn down whatever or whomever is within the premises? Costing thousands in property damage, imperiling everyone in the vicinity, disrupting all charity events hosted on the property, destroying all free goods or free beds kept by the church for the needy?

You're demonstrating the exact kind of black and white thinking I find so repelling in religious extremists. I'm worried that you and bul are on the cusp of outright dehumanizing theists. These are your fellow human beings on planet Earth. If you don't help them in their hour of greatest need, why should you deserve any help yourself? The very title of this thread plays right into everything theists say about atheists being morally stunted.

+1
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7/30/2018 10:06:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/29/2018 6:25:34 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:51:32 PM, TKDB wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:

Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Why don't you reach out to the Fire department in your local area, AND see what they think of your question?

Or maybe mental health and see what they think as well?

You're a very odd and weird individual?

Lol. I don't think anyone other than dee has been more pawned in a 2nd post than this doofus.

What's your point?

Do you maybe agree with Willows word ethang5?
TKDB
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7/30/2018 10:14:18 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/29/2018 6:25:34 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:51:32 PM, TKDB wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:

Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Why don't you reach out to the Fire department in your local area, AND see what they think of your question?

Or maybe mental health and see what they think as well?

You're a very odd and weird individual?

Lol. I don't think anyone other than dee has been more pawned in a 2nd post than this doofus.

What did you think of this forum question by Willows?

"Hypothetical For Christian Mothers"
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7/30/2018 11:08:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 9:20:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/30/2018 7:27:37 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 3:28:33 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Because a burning building is a threat to human life and public safety.

Some may argue that a Church which remains intact is a threat to human life and public safety.

Really, Wills? A church poses the same urgent threat to human life and public safety that a burning building does? A church is such an unmitigatedly destructive force within the community that it would be better to stand by and let an uncontrolled blaze burn down whatever or whomever is within the premises? Costing thousands in property damage, imperiling everyone in the vicinity, disrupting all charity events hosted on the property, destroying all free goods or free beds kept by the church for the needy?

You're demonstrating the exact kind of black and white thinking I find so repelling in religious extremists. I'm worried that you and bul are on the cusp of outright dehumanizing theists. These are your fellow human beings on planet Earth. If you don't help them in their hour of greatest need, why should you deserve any help yourself? The very title of this thread plays right into everything theists say about atheists being morally stunted.

I, nor Buly go out preaching absolute lies, doom and gloom through fear and guilt to those who are naive, gullible, weak and vulnerable.
Nor do we psychologically control and abuse, young, impressionable children.
Nor do we incite bigotry and instruct followers to hate those in minority groups.
Nor do we tell others what to do with their genitals.
Nor do we dictate to women what they must do with their bodies.
Nor do we dictate to terminally-ill people what they should do with their lives for fear of eternal damnation.
Nor are we responsible for the polarisation and separation of families.

And you call us morally stunted for exposing one of the most repulsive institutions ever concocted by mankind?

I don't dehumanize theists although I have absolutely no respect for their beliefs. I do, however, hold utter disdain for those who are no more than disgusting, corrupt charlatans....religious preachers.
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7/30/2018 11:17:18 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 9:52:44 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 7/30/2018 9:20:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/30/2018 7:27:37 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 3:28:33 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Because a burning building is a threat to human life and public safety.

Some may argue that a Church which remains intact is a threat to human life and public safety.

Really, Wills? A church poses the same urgent threat to human life and public safety that a burning building does? A church is such an unmitigatedly destructive force within the community that it would be better to stand by and let an uncontrolled blaze burn down whatever or whomever is within the premises? Costing thousands in property damage, imperiling everyone in the vicinity, disrupting all charity events hosted on the property, destroying all free goods or free beds kept by the church for the needy?

You're demonstrating the exact kind of black and white thinking I find so repelling in religious extremists. I'm worried that you and bul are on the cusp of outright dehumanizing theists. These are your fellow human beings on planet Earth. If you don't help them in their hour of greatest need, why should you deserve any help yourself? The very title of this thread plays right into everything theists say about atheists being morally stunted.

+1

-1....take a look at post #14
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7/30/2018 11:35:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 11:17:18 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 9:52:44 AM, ethang5 wrote:

Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Because a burning building is a threat to human life and public safety.

Some may argue that a Church which remains intact is a threat to human life and public safety.

Really, Wills? A church poses the same urgent threat to human life and public safety that a burning building does? A church is such an unmitigatedly destructive force within the community that it would be better to stand by and let an uncontrolled blaze burn down whatever or whomever is within the premises? Costing thousands in property damage, imperiling everyone in the vicinity, disrupting all charity events hosted on the property, destroying all free goods or free beds kept by the church for the needy?

You're demonstrating the exact kind of black and white thinking I find so repelling in religious extremists. I'm worried that you and bul are on the cusp of outright dehumanizing theists. These are your fellow human beings on planet Earth. If you don't help them in their hour of greatest need, why should you deserve any help yourself? The very title of this thread plays right into everything theists say about atheists being morally stunted.

+1

-1....take a look at post #14

Post #14 is just more of your deluded self a justification. If you missed casten's heartfelt point, then you are past redemption.

Unlike bully who is an unintentional moron, you are deliberately and willfully stupid. Basically, the two of you are comic relief.

Run, go clog up the board. You're falling behind on your 15 idiot posts a day quota.
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7/30/2018 11:37:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 11:08:00 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 9:20:16 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/30/2018 7:27:37 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 3:28:33 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Because a burning building is a threat to human life and public safety.

Some may argue that a Church which remains intact is a threat to human life and public safety.

Really, Wills? A church poses the same urgent threat to human life and public safety that a burning building does? A church is such an unmitigatedly destructive force within the community that it would be better to stand by and let an uncontrolled blaze burn down whatever or whomever is within the premises? Costing thousands in property damage, imperiling everyone in the vicinity, disrupting all charity events hosted on the property, destroying all free goods or free beds kept by the church for the needy?

You're demonstrating the exact kind of black and white thinking I find so repelling in religious extremists. I'm worried that you and bul are on the cusp of outright dehumanizing theists. These are your fellow human beings on planet Earth. If you don't help them in their hour of greatest need, why should you deserve any help yourself? The very title of this thread plays right into everything theists say about atheists being morally stunted.

I, nor Buly go out preaching absolute lies, doom and gloom through fear and guilt to those who are naive, gullible, weak and vulnerable.
Nor do we psychologically control and abuse, young, impressionable children.
Nor do we incite bigotry and instruct followers to hate those in minority groups.
Nor do we tell others what to do with their genitals.
Nor do we dictate to women what they must do with their bodies.
Nor do we dictate to terminally-ill people what they should do with their lives for fear of eternal damnation.
Nor are we responsible for the polarisation and separation of families.

And you call us morally stunted for exposing one of the most repulsive institutions ever concocted by mankind?

I don't dehumanize theists although I have absolutely no respect for their beliefs. I do, however, hold utter disdain for those who are no more than disgusting, corrupt charlatans....religious preachers.
+1
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7/30/2018 11:44:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 10:06:54 AM, TKDB wrote:
At 7/29/2018 6:25:34 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Why don't you reach out to the Fire department in your local area, AND see what they think of your question?

Or maybe mental health and see what they think as well?

You're a very odd and weird individual?

Lol. I don't think anyone other than dee has been more pawned in a 2nd post than this doofus.

What's your point?

Do you maybe agree with Willows word ethang5?

Not unless I had a lobotomy. You destroyed him in that 2nd post, which is why he could not reply you.

What did you think of this forum question by Willows?

"Hypothetical For Christian Mothers"

The same thing I think of all his forum post. Needlessly idiotic. Willows is a moron who thinks he is injuring Christians and sees his 'fight' as heroic. He's a light weight, as evidenced by his tag teaming with the imbecile.

Force him to answer your question.
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7/30/2018 11:48:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 11:45:30 AM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 7/30/2018 11:08:00 AM, Willows wrote:

I don't dehumanize theists

LOL

I hate cancer, but that doesn't mean that I hate people with cancer.
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7/30/2018 11:58:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 11:44:54 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 7/30/2018 10:06:54 AM, TKDB wrote:
At 7/29/2018 6:25:34 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Why don't you reach out to the Fire department in your local area, AND see what they think of your question?

Or maybe mental health and see what they think as well?

You're a very odd and weird individual?

Lol. I don't think anyone other than dee has been more pawned in a 2nd post than this doofus.

What's your point?

Do you maybe agree with Willows word ethang5?

Not unless I had a lobotomy. You destroyed him in that 2nd post, which is why he could not reply you.

What did you think of this forum question by Willows?

"Hypothetical For Christian Mothers"

The same thing I think of all his forum post. Needlessly idiotic. Willows is a moron who thinks he is injuring Christians and sees his 'fight' as heroic. He's a light weight, as evidenced by his tag teaming with the imbecile.

Force him to answer your question.
So says the run away coward. Your new found friend is totally incoherent.
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7/30/2018 12:00:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 11:48:49 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 11:45:30 AM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 7/30/2018 11:08:00 AM, Willows wrote:

I don't dehumanize theists

LOL

I hate cancer, but that doesn't mean that I hate people with cancer.

And bully is not vitriolic, and hari is not a racist.
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7/30/2018 12:00:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 11:44:54 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 7/30/2018 10:06:54 AM, TKDB wrote:
At 7/29/2018 6:25:34 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Why don't you reach out to the Fire department in your local area, AND see what they think of your question?

Or maybe mental health and see what they think as well?

You're a very odd and weird individual?

Lol. I don't think anyone other than dee has been more pawned in a 2nd post than this doofus.

What's your point?

Do you maybe agree with Willows word ethang5?

Not unless I had a lobotomy. You destroyed him in that 2nd post, which is why he could not reply you.

What did you think of this forum question by Willows?

"Hypothetical For Christian Mothers"

The same thing I think of all his forum post. Needlessly idiotic. Willows is a moron who thinks he is injuring Christians and sees his 'fight' as heroic. He's a light weight, as evidenced by his tag teaming with the imbecile.



"Force him to answer your question."

You're talking about dee-em, the individual who seeks intellectual stimulation via forum questions like this one?

"Did God destroy the Twin Towers?"

Looks to me like maybe hes trying to get some to lower themselves down to his intellectual level of thinking and reasoning?

Ask him "Who destroyed the Twin Towers" and he won't answer the question?
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7/30/2018 1:03:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 11:48:49 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 11:45:30 AM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 7/30/2018 11:08:00 AM, Willows wrote:

I don't dehumanize theists

LOL

I hate cancer, but that doesn't mean that I hate people with cancer.

LOL
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7/30/2018 1:10:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Willow's original post was about allowing the physical structures of churches to burn down. Only sickos would want to burn people alive, Unless, of course they were heretics or witches.
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7/30/2018 1:27:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 1:10:16 PM, desmac wrote:
Willow's original post was about allowing the physical structures of churches to burn down. Only sickos would want to burn people alive, Unless, of course they were heretics or witches.

What is sad is you think burning building you don't own down is cute. Like burning books in the other topic you are Nazis pigs.
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7/30/2018 1:30:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 12:00:59 PM, TKDB wrote:
At 7/30/2018 11:44:54 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 7/30/2018 10:06:54 AM, TKDB wrote:
At 7/29/2018 6:25:34 PM, ethang5 wrote:

Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Why don't you reach out to the Fire department in your local area, AND see what they think of your question?

Or maybe mental health and see what they think as well?

You're a very odd and weird individual?

Lol. I don't think anyone other than dee has been more pawned in a 2nd post than this doofus.

What's your point?

Do you maybe agree with Willows word ethang5?

Not unless I had a lobotomy. You destroyed him in that 2nd post, which is why he could not reply you.

What did you think of this forum question by Willows?

"Hypothetical For Christian Mothers"

The same thing I think of all his forum post. Needlessly idiotic. Willows is a moron who thinks he is injuring Christians and sees his 'fight' as heroic. He's a light weight, as evidenced by his tag teaming with the imbecile.



"Force him to answer your question."

You're talking about dee-em, the individual who seeks intellectual stimulation via forum questions like this one?

"Did God destroy the Twin Towers?"

Looks to me like maybe hes trying to get some to lower themselves down to his intellectual level of thinking and reasoning?

Ask him "Who destroyed the Twin Towers" and he won't answer the question?

Don't worry when they can't answer your questions. Everyone can see them dodging.
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7/30/2018 1:36:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 11:48:49 AM, Willows wrote:
At 7/30/2018 11:45:30 AM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 7/30/2018 11:08:00 AM, Willows wrote:

I don't dehumanize theists

LOL

I hate cancer, but that doesn't mean that I hate people with cancer.

No, you just think they should burn up in a fire
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7/30/2018 1:39:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?

Many non-profit organizations don't pay federal taxes too, Do you think they should be allowed to call a fire department?
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7/30/2018 2:07:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2018 1:39:42 PM, Ravensjt wrote:
At 7/29/2018 12:43:57 PM, Willows wrote:
Churches don't pay taxes.

So why should Churches be entitled to the services of the fire brigade if they catch fire?



Many non-profit organizations don't pay federal taxes too, Do you think they should be allowed to call a fire department?

Beat me to the punch. Public safety should trump public policy.
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