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8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
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8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.
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8/2/2018 10:19:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.

beef is yummy
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8/2/2018 10:22:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 10:19:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.

beef is yummy
LOL, not if you stop eating it. Just like smoking, get off it and you will see the benefits and difference.
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8/2/2018 10:23:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 10:22:13 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:19:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.

beef is yummy
LOL, not if you stop eating it. Just like smoking, get off it and you will see the benefits and difference.

I was a vegetarian for a year. I may be again some day.
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8/2/2018 10:30:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 10:23:37 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:22:13 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:19:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.

beef is yummy
LOL, not if you stop eating it. Just like smoking, get off it and you will see the benefits and difference.

I was a vegetarian for a year. I may be again some day.
Cool...The cat family is the main creatures made to consume meat. If you look at their anatomy their intestines are wide and short allowing the passing of meat easily and quickly. Humans don't have this characteristic, the intestines are very long and narrow and when you consume meat it literally putrefies in the colon. People that consume a majority of meat smell bad, have gastric problems and end up with serious kidney failures.
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8/2/2018 10:32:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 10:30:07 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:23:37 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:22:13 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:19:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.

beef is yummy
LOL, not if you stop eating it. Just like smoking, get off it and you will see the benefits and difference.

I was a vegetarian for a year. I may be again some day.
Cool...The cat family is the main creatures made to consume meat. If you look at their anatomy their intestines are wide and short allowing the passing of meat easily and quickly. Humans don't have this characteristic, the intestines are very long and narrow and when you consume meat it literally putrefies in the colon. People that consume a majority of meat smell bad, have gastric problems and end up with serious kidney failures.

I don't smell bad.
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8/2/2018 11:42:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?

If you had children to care for and the only way to feed them was with the meat of people who died, would you?
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8/2/2018 11:46:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Not for fun. If they were dead and I was starving. I saw a program were a tribe ate a bit of the dead to consume them onto themselves kinda thing. I don't know if I would say no if it was a ritual and I knew the person. I think it would be hard to gag past.
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8/2/2018 11:53:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 10:32:15 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:30:07 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:23:37 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:22:13 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:19:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.

beef is yummy
LOL, not if you stop eating it. Just like smoking, get off it and you will see the benefits and difference.

I was a vegetarian for a year. I may be again some day.
Cool...The cat family is the main creatures made to consume meat. If you look at their anatomy their intestines are wide and short allowing the passing of meat easily and quickly. Humans don't have this characteristic, the intestines are very long and narrow and when you consume meat it literally putrefies in the colon. People that consume a majority of meat smell bad, have gastric problems and end up with serious kidney failures.

I don't smell bad.
I don't really mean you walk around smelling bad even though some do, you can shower, use deodorant and make yourself pleasant...I'm talking through perspiration as well as other bodily functions and elimination. The putrefaction of meat will always smell bad even though the body can mask it in ways, some people can't mask it though and when rotting meat is present there's also the presence of very ugly things that feed off it. It's a no win situation really. Ever watched monsters inside me lol?
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8/3/2018 1:41:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 11:42:57 PM, WoeJ wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?


If you had children to care for and the only way to feed them was with the meat of people who died, would you?

Probably
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8/3/2018 2:34:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?

Scientifically, over millions of years we have evolved an instinct that means we find somethings 'yummy' and other things 'icky'. There's no simple rule about what we find yummy or icky, but natural selection means that individuals that, for example, have their brain wired-up to find fresh meat yummy and rotten meat icky had more kids that individuals that were't wired-up that way.

No doubt a large part of that instinct is innate, but human brains are very plastic and our reaction to potential foods can be modified by learning. So its hard to say if finding humans as food icky is purely innate or is partially learned is almost impossible to say.

There are practical reasons to avoid eating human flesh as food, but I wouldn't like to guess whether humans find cannibalism icky by default and cannibals overcome it by socialisation or if its vice versa - I don't know how one finds that sort of thing out.
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8/3/2018 2:48:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
The obligatory reference: https://en.wikipedia.org...

I would not have behaved any differently than these people. They had no other option except death. They really struggled with the decision. They were a Christian rugby team. This is apparently a survivor's description:

"Our common goal was to survive -- but what we lacked was food. We had long since run out of the meagre pickings we'd found on the plane, and there was no vegetation or animal life to be found. After just a few days we were feeling the sensation of our own bodies consuming themselves just to remain alive. Before long we would become too weak to recover from starvation.

We knew the answer, but it was too terrible to contemplate.

For me, it was an honour to say that if my heart stopped beating, my arms and legs and muscles could still be part of our communal mission to get off the mountain.

The bodies of our friends and team-mates, preserved outside in the snow and ice, contained vital, life-giving protein that could help us survive. But could we do it?

For a long time we agonised. I went out in the snow and prayed to God for guidance. Without His consent, I felt I would be violating the memory of my friends; that I would be stealing their souls.

We wondered whether we were going mad even to contemplate such a thing. Had we turned into brute savages? Or was this the only sane thing to do? Truly, we were pushing the limits of our fear.

Javier Methol, at 35 the oldest of our group, told us he, too, had prayed for help from above. He said that God told him to think of it like Holy Communion. Javier recited the New Testament verses to us: 'He who eats of my flesh and drinks of my blood will have eternal life. Take and eat, this is my body.'

Maybe a miracle might occur just in time to avoid what seemed to us a hideous transgression. Never had the consequences of time seemed so gruesome.

But true hunger is atrocious, instinctive, primordial, and God witnessed the groaning of my insides. In time, a rational and loving answer emerged to calm my fears and give me inner peace."
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8/3/2018 2:50:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?

Hmm, I don't know. It would depend on how I am feeling at the moment and what type of situation. Really way too random for me to say for certain, though I think I probably wouldn't eat another person.
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8/3/2018 2:55:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/3/2018 2:51:14 AM, Leaning wrote:
At 8/3/2018 2:48:03 AM, Casten wrote:
The obligatory reference: https://en.wikipedia.org...

Oh, my mom read a book about that once.

Yeah, it's a pretty well known case.
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8/3/2018 3:11:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Eh, nah, I changed my mind. I probably would eat another person at some point in my life if I lived long enough. If you offered me a human steak right now though, I'm pretty sure I would say no thanks.
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8/3/2018 3:24:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/3/2018 2:55:44 AM, Casten wrote:
At 8/3/2018 2:51:14 AM, Leaning wrote:
At 8/3/2018 2:48:03 AM, Casten wrote:
The obligatory reference: https://en.wikipedia.org...

Oh, my mom read a book about that once.

Yeah, it's a pretty well known case.

It would be nice(ish) if people only resorted to the cannibalism of people who had already died, but there are a few instances of people being killed for their meat documented in wikipedia etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org...

Whether they are genuine or propaganda is one of those 'impossible to know' things. I'd say almost everyone would turn cannibal if the only other choices were death or (worse) broccoli.
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8/3/2018 6:32:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.

So, what exactly is your proof for ancient humans being islanders? I am fairly certain if you look for evidence you will find most populations of ancient humans lived in continental regions.

Physiologically speaking, humans are omnivorous, why do you think humans can so efficiently draw energy from meat? If meat is fed to other herbivores, they will derive little energy from it (And also be at risk of damaging their organs) because they physiologically are not suited to digesting it.

One of the key differences between humans and the rest of the apes is that we have a 27% higher energy demand than typical apes (http://science.sciencemag.org...). This higher energy demand is typically attributed to our abnormally large brain size/cognitive capacity and relatively quick childbirth. Ancient humans would have likely occupied a similar niche to that of apes, but would have had higher energy requirements. If we had the same diet as them, that would likely have meant extinction, hence the broader diet.

Regarding what you said about "Apes not cooking food/hunting for meat": Apes don't have the intelligence to go through the process of learning how to create fire and then utilizing it in cooking.

Now none of this says anything about whether eating meat is ethical, especially since we are now in a point in human history where it is not only possible, but easy/safe to have a vegetarian diet.
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8/3/2018 2:31:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/3/2018 6:32:24 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.

So, what exactly is your proof for ancient humans being islanders? I am fairly certain if you look for evidence you will find most populations of ancient humans lived in continental regions.

Physiologically speaking, humans are omnivorous, why do you think humans can so efficiently draw energy from meat? If meat is fed to other herbivores, they will derive little energy from it (And also be at risk of damaging their organs) because they physiologically are not suited to digesting it.

One of the key differences between humans and the rest of the apes is that we have a 27% higher energy demand than typical apes (http://science.sciencemag.org...). This higher energy demand is typically attributed to our abnormally large brain size/cognitive capacity and relatively quick childbirth. Ancient humans would have likely occupied a similar niche to that of apes, but would have had higher energy requirements. If we had the same diet as them, that would likely have meant extinction, hence the broader diet.

Regarding what you said about "Apes not cooking food/hunting for meat": Apes don't have the intelligence to go through the process of learning how to create fire and then utilizing it in cooking.

Now none of this says anything about whether eating meat is ethical, especially since we are now in a point in human history where it is not only possible, but easy/safe to have a vegetarian diet.
Examine the anatomy of humans and you will see quite clearly that man is suited for an islander diet not a meat eating caveman diet (teeth structure, intestines, lack of weapons like claws and fangs). You can see this quite clearly in how man responds to each diet, one is a complete disaster with serious health risks and death, while the other invokes health vitality and longevity. Fruits, not meat, particularly berries are associated with brain size and intelligence. So if man is suited more for an islander type diet it goes without saying man is just that.

Islander diet-Traditional Pacific Islander foods are nutrient-dense, the meals are prepared in healthy ways and oils are used sparingly. The high-fibre, low-fat nature of these diets reduces the risk of heart disease, hypertension, stroke, diabetes, obesity and certain forms of cancer.

So why, precisely is man eating foods that are destroying him? part of that answer lies in the misconception that man is a caveman but actually it was the migration to harsher, colder climates that forced man to look for other food sources since obviously it would be impossible to consume an islander diet where there is no production of fruits and veggies. We are also closely related to primates, and again the same thing....primates, specifically gorillas and apes consume primarily fruits first (if available) then veggies and lastly insects and maybe, maybe small animals. If you go to a zoo and put in front of a silver back gorilla three barrels of food for it to choose......one barrel full of fruits, one barrel full of veggies and a barrel full of dead meat, now which one do you think that ape is going to go after? every single time that gorilla is going for that fruit. Likewise, take a kid with the same options, certainly the barrel of fruit again no contest.

Because man has had to survive in other climates to eating wrong foods and dead flesh, we assume man had adapted to that or that man was meant to consume those things such as grains, beans, starches, milks, meats and cheese ect ect...no, no, no. Man has suffered greatly and will continue to suffer from these things. Man is not suited for an acidic based diet, man is suited for an alkaline diet which consists of fruits, berries, melons, herbs, veggies and some raw foods. This will always be mans healing when he gets sick and diseased. Fruits and raw foods don't cause problems in man, this is his natural food source and will thrive greatly eating them. So if this is the case, to deny that I'm correct would be ignorant and I can prove it every time by getting anyone on such a diet and showing you the proof of it. It's a known fact that meat is extremely hard to digest for humans, very bad for the kidneys which in return is very bad for the heart and man does not have the anatomy to kill other animals and eat them...of course weapons were developed for just that purpose but again, going to show you that man is not a meat eater and never will be.

I'm giving you fresh information here as always, so you have to consider it is not mainstream, but as you will see if you follow what I'm saying it's all facts. Man has jumped to the assumption that we are an omnivore based on the fact man was forced to look for other sources of food but that's irrelevant, the facts, the health, the anatomy all speak clearly for themselves as truth.
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8/3/2018 2:36:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/3/2018 6:32:24 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.

So, what exactly is your proof for ancient humans being islanders? I am fairly certain if you look for evidence you will find most populations of ancient humans lived in continental regions.

Physiologically speaking, humans are omnivorous, why do you think humans can so efficiently draw energy from meat? If meat is fed to other herbivores, they will derive little energy from it (And also be at risk of damaging their organs) because they physiologically are not suited to digesting it.

One of the key differences between humans and the rest of the apes is that we have a 27% higher energy demand than typical apes (http://science.sciencemag.org...). This higher energy demand is typically attributed to our abnormally large brain size/cognitive capacity and relatively quick childbirth. Ancient humans would have likely occupied a similar niche to that of apes, but would have had higher energy requirements. If we had the same diet as them, that would likely have meant extinction, hence the broader diet.

Regarding what you said about "Apes not cooking food/hunting for meat": Apes don't have the intelligence to go through the process of learning how to create fire and then utilizing it in cooking.

Now none of this says anything about whether eating meat is ethical, especially since we are now in a point in human history where it is not only possible, but easy/safe to have a vegetarian diet.
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8/3/2018 2:36:47 PM
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At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?

I certainly hope I am never put in a position where my survival depends on eating a human but until I am I cannot say what I would do.
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8/3/2018 11:04:04 PM
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So, what exactly is your proof for ancient humans being islanders? I am fairly certain if you look for evidence you will find most populations of ancient humans lived in continental regions.

Physiologically speaking, humans are omnivorous, why do you think humans can so efficiently draw energy from meat? If meat is fed to other herbivores, they will derive little energy from it (And also be at risk of damaging their organs) because they physiologically are not suited to digesting it.

One of the key differences between humans and the rest of the apes is that we have a 27% higher energy demand than typical apes (http://science.sciencemag.org...). This higher energy demand is typically attributed to our abnormally large brain size/cognitive capacity and relatively quick childbirth. Ancient humans would have likely occupied a similar niche to that of apes, but would have had higher energy requirements. If we had the same diet as them, that would likely have meant extinction, hence the broader diet.

Regarding what you said about "Apes not cooking food/hunting for meat": Apes don't have the intelligence to go through the process of learning how to create fire and then utilizing it in cooking.

Now none of this says anything about whether eating meat is ethical, especially since we are now in a point in human history where it is not only possible, but easy/safe to have a vegetarian diet.

Firstly, I am going to be completely honest: I literally cringed while reading this. You clearly don't know much about human anatomy, or biology in general.

Examine the anatomy of humans and you will see quite clearly that man is suited for an islander diet not a meat eating caveman diet (teeth structure, intestines, lack of weapons like claws and fangs).

Teeth structure: Humans have both flat molars (Great for grinding plants up!) and sharp canines (Good for tearing up meat!). This is what you would typically expect of an omnivore. And before I hear you say "Haha well gorillas have even bigger canines! How about that!" Please keep in mind gorillas literally eat bark and sticks, which is why canines would be so useful in their particular niche (Humans obviously don't need this because most people won't try to eat bark!). And there's also uses in display etc.

Intestines: Do you not find it just a little bit strange that humans aren't ruminants? For a "herbivore" that has a monogastric stomach, we have an unusually small and inefficient caecum. It's almost as if we are omnivores.....

Weapons: We have our brains.

You can see this quite clearly in how man responds to each diet, one is a complete disaster with serious health risks and death, while the other invokes health vitality and longevity. Fruits, not meat, particularly berries are associated with brain size and intelligence. So if man is suited more for an islander type diet it goes without saying man is just that.

Citation needed.

Islander diet-Traditional Pacific Islander foods are nutrient-dense, the meals are prepared in healthy ways and oils are used sparingly. The high-fibre, low-fat nature of these diets reduces the risk of heart disease, hypertension, stroke, diabetes, obesity and certain forms of cancer.

So why, precisely is man eating foods that are destroying him? part of that answer lies in the misconception that man is a caveman but actually it was the migration to harsher, colder climates that forced man to look for other food sources since obviously it would be impossible to consume an islander diet where there is no production of fruits and veggies.

Sorry, but I am curious. Where exactly do you think the human original population was situated at? Lmao.

We are also closely related to primates, and again the same thing....primates, specifically gorillas and apes consume primarily fruits first (if available) then veggies and lastly insects and maybe, maybe small animals. If you go to a zoo and put in front of a silver back gorilla three barrels of food for it to choose......one barrel full of fruits, one barrel full of veggies and a barrel full of dead meat, now which one do you think that ape is going to go after? every single time that gorilla is going for that fruit. Likewise, take a kid with the same options, certainly the barrel of fruit again no contest.

"One of the key differences between humans and the rest of the apes is that we have a 27% higher energy demand than typical apes (http://science.sciencemag.org......). This higher energy demand is typically attributed to our abnormally large brain size/cognitive capacity and relatively quick childbirth. Ancient humans would have likely occupied a similar niche to that of apes, but would have had higher energy requirements. If we had the same diet as them, that would likely have meant extinction, hence the broader diet."


Because man has had to survive in other climates to eating wrong foods and dead flesh, we assume man had adapted to that or that man was meant to consume those things such as grains, beans, starches, milks, meats and cheese ect ect...no, no, no. Man has suffered greatly and will continue to suffer from these things.

Citation needed.

Man is not suited for an acidic based diet, man is suited for an alkaline diet which consists of fruits, berries, melons, herbs, veggies and some raw foods.

Still just going to pretend that all our omnivorous adaptations don't exist?

This will always be mans healing when he gets sick and diseased. Fruits and raw foods don't cause problems in man, this is his natural food source and will thrive greatly eating them.

Do you not understand what an omnivore is?

So if this is the case, to deny that I'm correct would be ignorant and I can prove it every time by getting anyone on such a diet and showing you the proof of it. It's a known fact that meat is extremely hard to digest for humans, very bad for the kidneys which in return is very bad for the heart and man does not have the anatomy to kill other animals and eat them...of course weapons were developed for just that purpose but again, going to show you that man is not a meat eater and never will be.

Citation needed. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof.

I'm giving you fresh information here as always, so you have to consider it is not mainstream, but as you will see if you follow what I'm saying it's all facts. Man has jumped to the assumption that we are an omnivore based on the fact man was forced to look for other sources of food but that's irrelevant, the facts, the health, the anatomy all speak clearly for themselves as truth.

If you think our anatomy indicates a herbivorous diet rather than an omnivorous one, then clearly you don't much about our anatomy. Ugh, another pseudoscience follower with no actual background or understanding of modern science, that has decided that their own unsubstantiated pet ideas is some revolutionary discovery.
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8/3/2018 11:43:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?

The proper way to say it is you are a meat/beef eater.

Eating cows carry tribal connotations.

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8/13/2018 1:23:56 AM
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At 8/3/2018 11:43:46 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?

The proper way to say it is you are a meat/beef eater.

Or, you don't worship cows. Or you don't kill humans for cows.

Eating cows carry tribal connotations.

Worshipping cows carry Hindu connotations.
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8/13/2018 2:31:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/13/2018 1:23:56 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 8/3/2018 11:43:46 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?

The proper way to say it is you are a meat/beef eater.

Or, you don't worship cows. Or you don't kill humans for cows.

Eating cows carry tribal connotations.

Worshipping cows carry Hindu connotations.

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8/13/2018 6:51:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/2/2018 10:30:07 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:23:37 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:22:13 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:19:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/2/2018 10:15:12 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 8/2/2018 9:56:22 PM, janesix wrote:
I wouldn't. I don't know why though, I have no problem eating cows and they are conscious beings. What makes eating another human icky?
Hell no.TBH it's not meant for humans to eat any form of cells, flesh and blood that's disgusting. We aren't cavemen either we are islanders and are meant to eat an islander diet, fruits, raw foods and veggies. We are closely related to the primate family and much like apes we flourish on a raw food fruit diet. Ever see an ape cook its foods or eat animals? (if they do it's more of an aggression thing and not for survival) how powerful they are, far beyond any human, but wait! how can an ape or even a horse have so much power without proteins from meat lol? don't need it, neither do we. To answer the question, when you break down the idea of consuming flesh/meat it really makes no difference in what flesh you eat other than morality and respect of a humans decomposed body, it's blood, cells and tissue.

beef is yummy
LOL, not if you stop eating it. Just like smoking, get off it and you will see the benefits and difference.

I was a vegetarian for a year. I may be again some day.
Cool...The cat family is the main creatures made to consume meat. If you look at their anatomy their intestines are wide and short allowing the passing of meat easily and quickly. Humans don't have this characteristic, the intestines are very long and narrow and when you consume meat it literally putrefies in the colon. People that consume a majority of meat smell bad, have gastric problems and end up with serious kidney failures.

It seems like you're saying humans aren't "made" to eat meat. Is that right?
If so, I'll tell you how we wouldn't be human without it.

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