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6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM
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Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
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6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM
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At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.
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6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
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6/18/2018 5:46:58 PM
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At 6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
Absolutely.
FanboyMctroll
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6/18/2018 6:06:03 PM
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At 6/18/2018 5:46:58 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
Absolutely.

But why do we have 1.6 billion Christians if it's all made up? That is a lot of people believing in creative stories, Why?
Polytheist_Witch
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6/18/2018 6:23:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 6:06:03 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:46:58 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
Absolutely.

But why do we have 1.6 billion Christians if it's all made up? That is a lot of people believing in creative stories, Why?

Because they hate you and the pot lucks are yummy.
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6/18/2018 6:31:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 6:23:13 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:06:03 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:46:58 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
Absolutely.

But why do we have 1.6 billion Christians if it's all made up? That is a lot of people believing in creative stories, Why?

Because they hate you and the pot lucks are yummy.

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.
Polytheist_Witch
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6/18/2018 6:32:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 6:31:56 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:23:13 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:06:03 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:46:58 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
Absolutely.

But why do we have 1.6 billion Christians if it's all made up? That is a lot of people believing in creative stories, Why?

Because they hate you and the pot lucks are yummy.

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Tell your wife about it, Mac N. Cheesy
Goldtop
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6/18/2018 6:34:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 6:32:24 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:31:56 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:23:13 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:06:03 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:46:58 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
Absolutely.

But why do we have 1.6 billion Christians if it's all made up? That is a lot of people believing in creative stories, Why?

Because they hate you and the pot lucks are yummy.

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Tell your wife about it, Mac N. Cheesy

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.
Polytheist_Witch
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6/18/2018 6:38:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 6:34:01 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:32:24 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:31:56 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:23:13 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:06:03 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:46:58 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
Absolutely.

But why do we have 1.6 billion Christians if it's all made up? That is a lot of people believing in creative stories, Why?

Because they hate you and the pot lucks are yummy.

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Tell your wife about it, Mac N. Cheesy

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Easy, easy. Mac N. Cheesy.
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6/18/2018 6:39:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 6:34:01 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:32:24 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:31:56 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:23:13 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:06:03 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:46:58 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
Absolutely.

But why do we have 1.6 billion Christians if it's all made up? That is a lot of people believing in creative stories, Why?

Because they hate you and the pot lucks are yummy.

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Tell your wife about it, Mac N. Cheesy

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Mac N. Cheesy.
Goldtop
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6/18/2018 6:42:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 6:39:23 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:34:01 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:32:24 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:31:56 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:23:13 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:06:03 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:46:58 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
Absolutely.

But why do we have 1.6 billion Christians if it's all made up? That is a lot of people believing in creative stories, Why?

Because they hate you and the pot lucks are yummy.

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Tell your wife about it, Mac N. Cheesy

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Mac N. Cheesy.

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.
Polytheist_Witch
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6/18/2018 6:42:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 6:42:06 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:39:23 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:34:01 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:32:24 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:31:56 PM, Goldtop wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:23:13 PM, Polytheist_Witch wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:06:03 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:46:58 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:38:13 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:29:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.
It was very primitive man who's superstitious imaginations created gods, thousands of them.
All gods are the creation of men.

So the bible that says that God created Adam and Eve and created the world in 7 days is just man made up stories?
Absolutely.

But why do we have 1.6 billion Christians if it's all made up? That is a lot of people believing in creative stories, Why?

Because they hate you and the pot lucks are yummy.

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Tell your wife about it, Mac N. Cheesy

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Mac N. Cheesy.

Shut the fvck up feckless cvnt.

Poor Cheesy. It's so easy.
rextr05
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6/18/2018 6:45:27 PM
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At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.

An answer to this question we'll all find out at a later time I suppose.

As for man creating gods .... there's certainly a main reason for primitive man to do such a thing bc of their limited knowledge of ..... most everything. A god for this, & a god for that .... why not bc if there's no readily answer for things .... attribute it to a god.

As far as the biblical God goes ..... there doesn't seem to be any advantage to create that God. He didn't seem to come from any one event or something not understood. He just kinda showed up one day with Abram. At that point I'm pretty sure there wasn't any memory of this God b4 then .... ,meaning the Adam/Eve/Noah timeline.
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6/18/2018 7:14:30 PM
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At 6/18/2018 6:45:27 PM, rextr05 wrote:
As far as the biblical God goes ..... there doesn't seem to be any advantage to create that God. He didn't seem to come from any one event or something not understood. He just kinda showed up one day with Abram. At that point I'm pretty sure there wasn't any memory of this God b4 then .... ,meaning the Adam/Eve/Noah timeline.

I don't go along with "He just kinda showed up one day with Abram." It looks more like YHWH began as one god in a pantheon, became the patron god of the Hebrews and finally became 'the only true god'. YHWH didn't 'kinda turn up' - the other gods were forgotten.

One thing that shows up in the OT is that the Hebrews were prone to apostasy in relation to YHWH. In broad stroke the ups and downs Hebrews history in the OT is explained in terms of periods of faithfulness and apostasy. Many of their kings are described as 'bad' because they were not solidy YHWHist - the Bible was of course written by YHWHist priests!
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6/18/2018 7:18:54 PM
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At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown...

Would you have done that? Why do you think others would have done that, if you and also, I wouldn"t do that? Person who understand what the Bible tells, sees it gives freedom, and all human governments are against freedom.

"If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."

John 8:31-32
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6/18/2018 7:22:39 PM
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At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
"Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth."

I wonder, why do some seem to in a sense incessantly and voluntarily bother themselves over something, that I'm guessing probably has no influence on their lives whatsoever?

Maybe it's not enough for someone to not voluntarily believe in God and just leave the thought there?

And maybe if someone voluntarily believes in God, that notion can't just be left alone there either?

Is the point of asking the seemingly thousands of the anti religion and non God questions, (point one, maybe some of the questions are for the purpose of intellectual stimulation via some of the anti religious and some of the non God individuals?)

(Point two: If some ask enough anti religious and non God questions, maybe the religious individuals will tire of those questions and let religion go from their lives just as maybe some of the anti religious and non God individuals maybe desire for them to do so?)

Is this maybe one of the points behind a question such as this?

"Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown."
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6/18/2018 7:28:31 PM
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At 6/18/2018 7:14:30 PM, keithprosser wrote:
At 6/18/2018 6:45:27 PM, rextr05 wrote:
As far as the biblical God goes ..... there doesn't seem to be any advantage to create that God. He didn't seem to come from any one event or something not understood. He just kinda showed up one day with Abram. At that point I'm pretty sure there wasn't any memory of this God b4 then .... ,meaning the Adam/Eve/Noah timeline.

I don't go along with "He just kinda showed up one day with Abram." It looks more like YHWH began as one god in a pantheon, became the patron god of the Hebrews and finally became 'the only true god'. YHWH didn't 'kinda turn up' - the other gods were forgotten.

But when did God show up & have a clear history b4 Abram.

You sure of the reason that the other gods were "forgotten""

One thing that shows up in the OT is that the Hebrews were prone to apostasy in relation to YHWH. In broad stroke the ups and downs Hebrews history in the OT is explained in terms of periods of faithfulness and apostasy. Many of their kings are described as 'bad' because they were not solidy YHWHist - the Bible was of course written by YHWHist priests!

Like most humans, the Israelites got too comfortable with living high, & most of the other gods that came along to sway them, were from other cultures that they encountered ..... especially the women they assimilated into their society.

I must ask you were you came up with who wrote the bible, bc most were not priests.
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6/19/2018 12:08:29 AM
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SOLUTION: easy, ....like Zeus and Odin which surely had worshippers arguing and fighting
over them...humans placed both into Mythology...search...study..pray..open a temple..
whatever...NO ONE on EARTH is causing problems in the name of ZEUS or ODIN...

Humans invented Jesus and Allah as they did with Zeus and Odin...time to put JESUS and ALLAH on the Mythology shelf...so like Zeus and Odin...people can do whatever they wish without any CONFLICT-WAR-MURDER-RAPE-PEDOPHILIA-BEATINGS-MUTILATIONS-TORTURE-MOLESTING-CONDEMNATION-ACID BURNINGS-CHOPPING HEADS OFF-+++
so many ATROCITIES against humanity in their names..well just to many to list..GET the POINT....Mythology = HAPPY ! and safe..that matters more than the GODS themselves..

Humans invent the GODS as scapegoats for POWER and CONTROL...assimilation is the PRIORITY..the CULT needs slaves to serve it while the Clowns in Glorified Halloween Gowns themselves act like a GOD and reap the benefits of their slaves efforts...

step aside SATAN...! another spin for mind control with the DEMON card !
these world class con artist hypnotists have the GOD game down...everyone LOSES
Then a new GOD is invented...BRILLIANT !
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6/19/2018 3:52:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 7:18:54 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:

Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown...

Would you have done that? Why do you think others would have done that, if you and also, I wouldn"t do that?

Ask Mohammad. Or ask Joseph Smith. Or ask L. Ron Hubbard. Etc. Etc.
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6/19/2018 7:27:31 AM
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At 6/18/2018 7:18:54 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown...

Would you have done that? Why do you think others would have done that, if you and also, I wouldn"t do that? Person who understand what the Bible tells, sees it gives freedom, and all human governments are against freedom.

I think that if I didn't know anything about science then I would have imagined a god.

I don't think a caveman would look around and say to himself 'You know,I think all these different animals stem from a common single celled organism and has evolved over billions of years into different species due to the effect of natural selection'.

Of course pre-scientific man is going to invent gods - how could they do anything else? We don't any society that hasn't invented gods - presumably it reflects the way our minds work.
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6/19/2018 1:10:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/19/2018 7:27:31 AM, keithprosser wrote:
At 6/18/2018 7:18:54 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown...

Would you have done that? Why do you think others would have done that, if you and also, I wouldn"t do that? Person who understand what the Bible tells, sees it gives freedom, and all human governments are against freedom.

I think that if I didn't know anything about science then I would have imagined a god.

I don't think a caveman would look around and say to himself 'You know,I think all these different animals stem from a common single celled organism and has evolved over billions of years into different species due to the effect of natural selection'.

Of course pre-scientific man is going to invent gods - how could they do anything else? We don't any society that hasn't invented gods - presumably it reflects the way our minds work.

But science has not provided us with any answers regarding Creation, it's only defined the mechanism. So the idea that we no longer need a "Creator God" because science has eliminated the need for one is inaccurate.

Treating science as if it were "the answer" is no different than treating religious mythology as if it were "the answer". Neither of these answer the question posed by the concept of existential origin. The first simply characterizes and personifies the question, while the second only reveals bits of the methodology. For anyone who still seeks an honest answer to the question of the origin and purpose of existence, neither religion nor science can justifiably fulfill that quest. Though both do provide us with avenues of investigation.
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6/19/2018 1:41:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/19/2018 1:10:54 PM, PureX wrote:
Treating science as if it were "the answer" is no different than treating religious mythology as if it were "the answer". Neither of these answer the question posed by the concept of existential origin. The first simply characterizes and personifies the question, while the second only reveals bits of the methodology. For anyone who still seeks an honest answer to the question of the origin and purpose of existence, neither religion nor science can justifiably fulfill that quest. Though both do provide us with avenues of investigation.

"To an extent". Theoretically or 'technically' I am an agnostic because I've done philosophy 101 and I know that certainty about empirical facts is not possible. But in practice I consider the possibility that there is anything 'supernatural' going on is negligible - in the strict sense that one can 'neglect' or ignore it.

I could get hit by a meteorite tomorrow, but I'm not taking any steps on that account; I think the possiblility that god exists is rather less than being hit by a meteorite, so I pay it even less attention.

I've been gathering experiences and knowledge for 60 odd years, so I find it hard to identify any particular reason why I feel that way, Add what I know about science to what I know about human nature and history and out pops the conclusion that men make gods, not the other way around. But like a good skeptic I have to acknowledge there is a theoretical possibility god exists... I just doesn't bother me.
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6/19/2018 4:40:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Obviously the PROBLEMS that humans experience are the result of HUMANS exploiting HUMANS
for POWER and CONTROL....

The Roman Catholic CHURCH, all other Christian Churches and all of the Muslim spin has nothing to do with HUMAN resolve...these are organizations designed by HUMANS to exploit and enslave ignorant humans into a mind and life controlling CULT...
The Middle East Religions = JESUS and ALLAH are world class human ASSIMILATION organizations..= slave CULTS..total exploitation..

a CULT of expert mind and life MOLESTERS who seek power...power to decide how people EXIST and DIE...and serve Church/Mosque expansion...

The Bible/Quran/Dogma/Jesus/Allah speak acts like a VIRUS...a VIRUS that invades the BRAIN and renders it into an UNCONSCIOUS SLAVE state...24/7 conditioning with Bible verse vomit repetition and Religious DOGMA requires total submission and
obedience...= a SLAVE.......

These people are literally turned into marketing slaves....programmed to invite as many other people they can convince to join...the CULT...

The CULT is built on FEAR-INTIMIDATION-VIOLENCE...a s all CULTS are...

NEVER is there a focus on HEALTH and WELLNESS...every aspect of the conditioning is to implant...YOU ARE A BORN SINNER and must SUFFER to get into heaven...

YES....SUFFERING is GOOD...it means you MUST surrender yourself to the boy toy subGOD (jesus) the Church invented.. or Allah..... the clever Gown Clown humans invented...who they say is the only GOD that can save YOU..

WOW ! what a scam...FEAR RULES ! ...obey and suffer...this is the PURPOSE embeded in the SLAVES mind...sad,,very sad...very sick....

OK...only the REAL GOD can save your pathetic stupid dumbed down brain...which GOD
is the real GOD....Jesus...or Allah...now the killing over it begins..OK real smart..
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6/19/2018 7:40:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
EPICURUS....300 years before the Jesus boy clown shows up and upstages Zeus for the NEW GOD in town farce...

EPICURUS...read up moron Jesus/Allah clowns...and learn something useful and practical...
No WAY !

the Christian/Muslim is HYPNOTIZED to avoid anything that does not conform to his/her conditioning...
The Church/Mosque psychopath mind molesters know the damage to their FLOCK of FOOLS would be catastrophic when the HYPNOSIS is removed...and they are awake to the programming insanity
that has enslaved them...

NO HUMAN ever needs the Middle East GOD inventions to EXIST and thrive...EVER...

Time to put JESUS and ALLAH to bed in MYTHOLOGY...R I P....no human will ever use them again to harm anyone or anything......
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6/19/2018 8:26:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/19/2018 7:27:31 AM, keithprosser wrote:
I think that if I didn't know anything about science then I would have imagined a god.

I don't think a caveman would look around and say to himself 'You know,I think all these different animals stem from a common single celled organism and has evolved over billions of years into different species due to the effect of natural selection'.

Interesting thing is that many ancient gods were natural, statues, animals, trees, sun and moon and in some cases other people. Commonly things that people keep as their gods are very natural. And so, scientific world view (evolution = mother earth) is just a modernization to old pagan beliefs. Bible God is rare exception to that long tradition of worshiping nature as god. And as the Bible tells, even Jews, who had God protecting them, easily turned to follow mindless things.

So, I believe, if you would have developed god to you, it could have been sun, or tree, or some human. And that belief would be acceptable for most people, because it doesn"t demand righteousness and truthfulness.
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6/19/2018 11:55:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/19/2018 8:26:52 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 6/19/2018 7:27:31 AM, keithprosser wrote:
I think that if I didn't know anything about science then I would have imagined a god.

I don't think a caveman would look around and say to himself 'You know,I think all these different animals stem from a common single celled organism and has evolved over billions of years into different species due to the effect of natural selection'.

Interesting thing is that many ancient gods were natural, statues, animals, trees, sun and moon and in some cases other people. Commonly things that people keep as their gods are very natural. And so, scientific world view (evolution = mother earth) is just a modernization to old pagan beliefs. Bible God is rare exception to that long tradition of worshiping nature as god. And as the Bible tells, even Jews, who had God protecting them, easily turned to follow mindless things.

So, I believe, if you would have developed god to you, it could have been sun, or tree, or some human. And that belief would be acceptable for most people, because it doesn"t demand righteousness and truthfulness.

People invent gods that control the world then they invent religions to control the gods.
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6/20/2018 12:49:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/19/2018 11:55:41 PM, keithprosser wrote:
At 6/19/2018 8:26:52 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 6/19/2018 7:27:31 AM, keithprosser wrote:
I think that if I didn't know anything about science then I would have imagined a god.

I don't think a caveman would look around and say to himself 'You know,I think all these different animals stem from a common single celled organism and has evolved over billions of years into different species due to the effect of natural selection'.

Interesting thing is that many ancient gods were natural, statues, animals, trees, sun and moon and in some cases other people. Commonly things that people keep as their gods are very natural. And so, scientific world view (evolution = mother earth) is just a modernization to old pagan beliefs. Bible God is rare exception to that long tradition of worshiping nature as god. And as the Bible tells, even Jews, who had God protecting them, easily turned to follow mindless things.

So, I believe, if you would have developed god to you, it could have been sun, or tree, or some human. And that belief would be acceptable for most people, because it doesn"t demand righteousness and truthfulness.

People invent gods that control the world then they invent religions to control the gods.

Lying prick.
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6/20/2018 3:16:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/18/2018 5:24:50 PM, FanboyMctroll wrote:
Did God create humankind or did modern man create God as a entity to pray to and worship for the unknown. If God created man, than did he create the dinosaurs, the planets and the evolution of earth, or did modern man create a God after evolution of the human brain. As the brain developed more, the thought process increased and man became more advanced in the thoughts process over and above basic survival and fire building and created a being to explain the creation of earth.

Learn something useful...see EPICURUS...then go flush your God and Bible Comic book down the toilet...neither is relevant for a healthy existence,,quite the opposite is true

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