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KaulDeva
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1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^
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1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back
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1/13/2017 3:27:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back

2 hypothesis .

Losers died and we are the descendants of Winners .

Our Universe is huge , They must be somewhere else . Even for something at a speed of Light will take 1 to 14 billion years to reach us . If we consider short time frames of Millions years , We super intelligent humans have been around for 5000 odd years .

They got into battle with some other specie and they blew up each other . Some got lost in the Space etc etc
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1/13/2017 3:33:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 3:27:54 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back

2 hypothesis .

Losers died and we are the descendants of Winners .

Our Universe is huge , They must be somewhere else . Even for something at a speed of Light will take 1 to 14 billion years to reach us . If we consider short time frames of Millions years , We super intelligent humans have been around for 5000 odd years .

They got into battle with some other specie and they blew up each other . Some got lost in the Space etc etc

Do you personally believe in aliens?
KaulDeva
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1/13/2017 3:39:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 3:33:22 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 3:27:54 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back

2 hypothesis .

Losers died and we are the descendants of Winners .

Our Universe is huge , They must be somewhere else . Even for something at a speed of Light will take 1 to 14 billion years to reach us . If we consider short time frames of Millions years , We super intelligent humans have been around for 5000 odd years .

They got into battle with some other specie and they blew up each other . Some got lost in the Space etc etc

Do you personally believe in aliens?

Believing in them makes my life more entertaining . Not the Aliens that TV shows . But I believe , somewhere in this Vast cosmos , there has to be a Living being that breaths and thinks like Me .
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1/13/2017 3:41:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 3:39:20 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 3:33:22 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 3:27:54 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back

2 hypothesis .

Losers died and we are the descendants of Winners .

Our Universe is huge , They must be somewhere else . Even for something at a speed of Light will take 1 to 14 billion years to reach us . If we consider short time frames of Millions years , We super intelligent humans have been around for 5000 odd years .

They got into battle with some other specie and they blew up each other . Some got lost in the Space etc etc

Do you personally believe in aliens?

Believing in them makes my life more entertaining . Not the Aliens that TV shows . But I believe , somewhere in this Vast cosmos , there has to be a Living being that breaths and thinks like Me .

I agree in the since that I find it very unlikely that we are the only planet that supports life. However it is also possible that we are the most advanced civilization ever as it is also possible that we are the least advance.
KaulDeva
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1/13/2017 3:48:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 3:41:14 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 3:39:20 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 3:33:22 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 3:27:54 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back

2 hypothesis .

Losers died and we are the descendants of Winners .

Our Universe is huge , They must be somewhere else . Even for something at a speed of Light will take 1 to 14 billion years to reach us . If we consider short time frames of Millions years , We super intelligent humans have been around for 5000 odd years .

They got into battle with some other specie and they blew up each other . Some got lost in the Space etc etc

Do you personally believe in aliens?

Believing in them makes my life more entertaining . Not the Aliens that TV shows . But I believe , somewhere in this Vast cosmos , there has to be a Living being that breaths and thinks like Me .

I agree in the since that I find it very unlikely that we are the only planet that supports life. However it is also possible that we are the most advanced civilization ever as it is also possible that we are the least advance.

Yup !

and when we take Multiverse and Parallel World into the scheme of things , It will be sad if Humans end up believing that we are alone . Theories like being in a simulation can also change how we have lived our lives till Now .
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1/13/2017 3:52:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Still a better hypothesis than religion.
"Plus every unfortunate and bad things happens to us in reality are good for us" --- Abeer
KaulDeva
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1/13/2017 3:57:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 3:52:36 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Still a better hypothesis than religion.

Back story to which will be lack of Earth like Planets in the Vastness of Cosmos .
This^ Statement will be proved wrong if we manage to Raise humans on Mars . Which will mean that intelligent species can survive on Planets different to Earth .

Intelligent Robots or Humanoids or Androids can be ideal creatures for creating Environment for Humans but they can also end up killing the Human race .

Is our craving to colonize the space worth the risk ?
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1/14/2017 12:02:16 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 3:27:54 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back

2 hypothesis .

Losers died and we are the descendants of Winners.

Then we are gods? How do you explain the fact that we lived in caves wearing furs only 15-20K years ago? How do you explain American Indians, Australian aborigines and Amazon Indians who still lived as hunter-gatherers only a few centuries ago?

Chimpanzees must be descendants of gods too since we share 97% of our DNA with them, right?

Our Universe is huge , They must be somewhere else.

How convenient.

Even for something at a speed of Light will take 1 to 14 billion years to reach us.

From where? The truth is that life like ours could not have evolved much earlier than about now. The galaxies had to be seeded with heavier elements via supernova explosions first before rocky planets could form.

If we consider short time frames of Millions years , We super intelligent humans have been around for 5000 odd years.

Homo sapiens have been around much longer than that. Try at least 250,000 years.
Super intelligent? Don't flatter yourself. Consider the evidence of some of the posters in this very forum. Lol.

They got into battle with some other specie and they blew up each other. Some got lost in the Space etc etc

There is the super intelligence we inherited! Lol.

So, science fiction and no evidence. Yeah?
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1/14/2017 2:06:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/14/2017 12:02:16 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/13/2017 3:27:54 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back

2 hypothesis .

Losers died and we are the descendants of Winners.

Then we are gods? How do you explain the fact that we lived in caves wearing furs only 15-20K years ago? How do you explain American Indians, Australian aborigines and Amazon Indians who still lived as hunter-gatherers only a few centuries ago?

Chimpanzees must be descendants of gods too since we share 97% of our DNA with them, right?

Our Universe is huge , They must be somewhere else.

How convenient.

Even for something at a speed of Light will take 1 to 14 billion years to reach us.

From where? The truth is that life like ours could not have evolved much earlier than about now. The galaxies had to be seeded with heavier elements via supernova explosions first before rocky planets could form.

If we consider short time frames of Millions years , We super intelligent humans have been around for 5000 odd years.

Homo sapiens have been around much longer than that. Try at least 250,000 years.
Super intelligent? Don't flatter yourself. Consider the evidence of some of the posters in this very forum. Lol.

They got into battle with some other specie and they blew up each other. Some got lost in the Space etc etc

There is the super intelligence we inherited! Lol.

So, science fiction and no evidence. Yeah?

When you say Homo-sapiens Have been around for "AT LEAST" 250,000 years, are you referring to modern man or to proto-humans," of which there were many different species of archaic hominins.

We know that Neanderthal's which cannot be classified as modern humans, did interbreed with the ancestors of Eurasian modern humans before they branched off into regional groups.

Seeing as you say, we share 97% of our DNA with Chimpanzees, do you believe that they can be classified as proto-humans, and that modern man is their descendants?

The Toba super eruption was a super volcanic eruption that occurred sometime between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago at Lake Toba (Sumatra Indonesia). It is recognised as one of earth"s largest eruptions. The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6 to 10 year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000 year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world"s evolving human population being reduced to 10,000 or even a mere 1,000 breeding pairs, creating a bottleneck in human evolution.

When do you believe, modern man as we know them, finally came into being?
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1/14/2017 4:28:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Well, your hypothesis is not far-fetched. I have the theory that angels are nothing but these alliens you talk about. The bible is full of events regarding flying machines and people being taken up to the sky. Elijah and Jesus are good examples. Furthermore, the angels that arrived at Sodom and Gomorrah to destroy them looked like human beings.

But this theory doesn't mean religions are wrong. I think religions are the expression of those people who had contact with the alliens and recieve their message. So, I think we shouldn't discard religions since it could bring an important warning or a teaching we should follow. Unless you are a closed minded moron that don't engage in critical thinking to discover our very human nature and just believe in a bunch of snob nerds -people call them scientists- that think they know everything we should know.

BR
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1/14/2017 5:56:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/14/2017 2:06:45 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/14/2017 12:02:16 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/13/2017 3:27:54 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back

2 hypothesis .

Losers died and we are the descendants of Winners.

Then we are gods? How do you explain the fact that we lived in caves wearing furs only 15-20K years ago? How do you explain American Indians, Australian aborigines and Amazon Indians who still lived as hunter-gatherers only a few centuries ago?

Chimpanzees must be descendants of gods too since we share 97% of our DNA with them, right?

Our Universe is huge , They must be somewhere else.

How convenient.

Even for something at a speed of Light will take 1 to 14 billion years to reach us.

From where? The truth is that life like ours could not have evolved much earlier than about now. The galaxies had to be seeded with heavier elements via supernova explosions first before rocky planets could form.

If we consider short time frames of Millions years , We super intelligent humans have been around for 5000 odd years.

Homo sapiens have been around much longer than that. Try at least 250,000 years.
Super intelligent? Don't flatter yourself. Consider the evidence of some of the posters in this very forum. Lol.

They got into battle with some other specie and they blew up each other. Some got lost in the Space etc etc

There is the super intelligence we inherited! Lol.

So, science fiction and no evidence. Yeah?

When you say Homo-sapiens Have been around for "AT LEAST" 250,000 years, are you referring to modern man or to proto-humans," of which there were many different species of archaic hominins.

Modern humans.

We know that Neanderthal's which cannot be classified as modern humans, did interbreed with the ancestors of Eurasian modern humans before they branched off into regional groups.

Yes, there is a tiny percentage of Neanderthal genes in some groups of modern humans. So what?

Seeing as you say, we share 97% of our DNA with Chimpanzees, do you believe that they can be classified as proto-humans, and that modern man is their descendants?

No, we are cousins. The evolutionary split from chimpanzees happened about 7-8 millions of years ago from a common ancestor.

The Toba super eruption was a super volcanic eruption that occurred sometime between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago at Lake Toba (Sumatra Indonesia). It is recognised as one of earth"s largest eruptions. The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6 to 10 year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000 year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world"s evolving human population being reduced to 10,000 or even a mere 1,000 breeding pairs, creating a bottleneck in human evolution.

Yes, so?

When do you believe, modern man as we know them, finally came into being?

At least 200-250K years ago as I have already stated:

https://en.wikipedia.org...
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1/14/2017 8:04:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/14/2017 12:02:16 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/13/2017 3:27:54 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back

2 hypothesis .

Losers died and we are the descendants of Winners.

Then we are gods? How do you explain the fact that we lived in caves wearing furs only 15-20K years ago? How do you explain American Indians, Australian aborigines and Amazon Indians who still lived as hunter-gatherers only a few centuries ago?

Chimpanzees must be descendants of gods too since we share 97% of our DNA with them, right?

Our Universe is huge , They must be somewhere else.

How convenient.

Even for something at a speed of Light will take 1 to 14 billion years to reach us.

From where? The truth is that life like ours could not have evolved much earlier than about now. The galaxies had to be seeded with heavier elements via supernova explosions first before rocky planets could form.

If we consider short time frames of Millions years , We super intelligent humans have been around for 5000 odd years.

Homo sapiens have been around much longer than that. Try at least 250,000 years.
Super intelligent? Don't flatter yourself. Consider the evidence of some of the posters in this very forum. Lol.

They got into battle with some other specie and they blew up each other. Some got lost in the Space etc etc

There is the super intelligence we inherited! Lol.

So, science fiction and no evidence. Yeah?

Nomadic Man 250,000 years and Civilized Men from 5000 BCE onward are on the different spectrum of Human race . We don't know much about the life styles of Those Men 100,000 years ago . New studies have found that Neanderthals were more intelligent than previously believed .

Ya 250,000 year ago , man could hardly make perfect weapons for Hunt . Now Men can land on Moon . Compared to them we sure are super intelligent . Believing that doesn't make one egoistic and arrogant .

Religious stories that we have don't go beyond 10,000 BCE at best . Aliens might have visited us back then but stories that we are talking about concerns only last 5000 years . Humans were more or less same for 250,000 years . Only in last 5000 years we have shown a great advancement .
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1/14/2017 11:04:53 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 3:57:51 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
Is our craving to colonize the space worth the risk ?

Humanity must find a way to colonize other planetary systems or die when this sun becomes a red Giant.
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1/14/2017 12:16:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/14/2017 8:04:50 AM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/14/2017 12:02:16 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/13/2017 3:27:54 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
At 1/13/2017 2:42:26 PM, Iacov wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

Why haven't the aliens come back

2 hypothesis .

Losers died and we are the descendants of Winners.

Then we are gods? How do you explain the fact that we lived in caves wearing furs only 15-20K years ago? How do you explain American Indians, Australian aborigines and Amazon Indians who still lived as hunter-gatherers only a few centuries ago?

Chimpanzees must be descendants of gods too since we share 97% of our DNA with them, right?

Our Universe is huge , They must be somewhere else.

How convenient.

Even for something at a speed of Light will take 1 to 14 billion years to reach us.

From where? The truth is that life like ours could not have evolved much earlier than about now. The galaxies had to be seeded with heavier elements via supernova explosions first before rocky planets could form.

If we consider short time frames of Millions years , We super intelligent humans have been around for 5000 odd years.

Homo sapiens have been around much longer than that. Try at least 250,000 years.
Super intelligent? Don't flatter yourself. Consider the evidence of some of the posters in this very forum. Lol.

They got into battle with some other specie and they blew up each other. Some got lost in the Space etc etc

There is the super intelligence we inherited! Lol.

So, science fiction and no evidence. Yeah?

Nomadic Man 250,000 years and Civilized Men from 5000 BCE onward are on the different spectrum of Human race .

Nah. Exactly the same species.

We don't know much about the life styles of Those Men 100,000 years ago .

And?

New studies have found that Neanderthals were more intelligent than previously believed .

And?

Ya 250,000 year ago , man could hardly make perfect weapons for Hunt . Now Men can land on Moon . Compared to them we sure are super intelligent . Believing that doesn't make one egoistic and arrogant .

You're confusing intelligence with knowledge. They had the same brains we do. What they lacked was leisure (thinking) time because of their hand to mouth existence. We landed on the Moon not because of being suddenly smarter but because of accumulated knowledge and the inventions of agriculture and animal farming which freed us from the grind of a hunter-gatherer existence. Some human cultures have been trapped in this hunter-gatherer existence (almost everywhere other than Europe and Asia) well within the last 5,000 years as I explained previously.

Religious stories that we have don't go beyond 10,000 BCE at best .

So?

Aliens might have visited us back then but stories that we are talking about concerns only last 5000 years .

And your evidence is?

Humans were more or less same for 250,000 years . Only in last 5000 years we have shown a great advancement .

Not because of a sudden increase in brain power but because of the cumulative effect of certain inventions such as those I have mentioned and others like the printing press. We seem like giants only because we stand on the shoulders of those who came before us and we have the ability to retain knowledge and pass it on to the next generation on a global scale.
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1/15/2017 5:43:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

The name Jared, means descending, and according to the scriptures, it was in the days of Jared, who is the physical father of Enoch, that the sons of God came down and defiled themselves with the daughters of man, and Giants were born of those unions.

Enoch calls those Sons of God, "Watchers" or rather "OBSERVERS." This is from the book of Enoch the prophet: [Chapter 6] 1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.

And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaq1el, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.

[Chapter 7] 1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

[Chapter 8] 1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .

[Chapter 9] 1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryingst up to the gates of heaven. And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause before the Most High."' And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee.

Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.'

[Chapter 10]
1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: 'Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.' And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin.'

All sin was to be ascribed to Azazel who was buried in the wilderness,

Moses was the adopted grandson of the king of Egypt and would have been afforded the best education that an Egyptian prince could receive.

See Leviticus 16: 20; It was Moses who gave to Aaron the regulations that he as High priest was to perform and one of those regulations was to choose a scapegoat and after laying his hands upon the head of that goat, he symbolically transferred the sins of Israel to the goat, which was then sent out into the wilderness to Azazel, the son of God, to whom all sin was to be ascribed.

Moses as well as Jesus, were taught from the books of righteous Enoch.
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1/15/2017 10:40:52 AM
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At 1/15/2017 5:43:52 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

The name Jared, means descending, and according to the scriptures, it was in the days of Jared, who is the physical father of Enoch, that the sons of God came down and defiled themselves with the daughters of man, and Giants were born of those unions.

Enoch calls those Sons of God, "Watchers" or rather "OBSERVERS." This is from the book of Enoch the prophet: [Chapter 6] 1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.

And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaq1el, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.

[Chapter 7] 1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

[Chapter 8] 1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .

[Chapter 9] 1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryingst up to the gates of heaven. And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause before the Most High."' And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee.

Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.'

[Chapter 10]
1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: 'Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.' And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin.'

All sin was to be ascribed to Azazel who was buried in the wilderness,

Moses was the adopted grandson of the king of Egypt and would have been afforded the best education that an Egyptian prince could receive.

See Leviticus 16: 20; It was Moses who gave to Aaron the regulations that he as High priest was to perform and one of those regulations was to choose a scapegoat and after laying his hands upon the head of that goat, he symbolically transferred the sins of Israel to the goat, which was then sent out into the wilderness to Azazel, the son of God, to whom all sin was to be ascribed.

Moses as well as Jesus, were taught from the books of righteous Enoch.
What a ridiculous fairy tale.
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1/15/2017 10:53:08 AM
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Don't worry about the ignorant queen of all atheist trolls, who never has anything of substance to contribute to any thread. If you wish to discuss the children of heaven who descended in the days of Enoch's father, 'Jared," just ignore the ignoramus.
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1/15/2017 11:06:01 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2017 10:53:08 AM, Gentorev wrote:
Don't worry about the ignorant queen of all atheist trolls, who never has anything of substance to contribute to any thread. If you wish to discuss the children of heaven who descended in the days of Enoch's father, 'Jared," just ignore the ignoramus.
Or you could discuss Hansel and Gretel, much the same.
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1/15/2017 11:30:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2017 1:21:42 PM, KaulDeva wrote:
What is the Probability of Religious stories being true and these Gods were nothing but Higher beings or race of Aliens fighting for the Rights to Earth ?

We as a Specie might soon encounter such events on our way to Colonizing Planets in the Galaxy ^^

The probability as is the possibility, zero. L. Ron Hubbard beat you to that sort of garbage years ago and made millions from it.
You will have to make up some other bizarre fairy story if you want to get anywhere.

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