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Danielle
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12/30/2016 10:02:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The Dark/Deep Web (not the same but similar) refers to parts of the Internet that cannot be searched by search engine, and which requires special access to view. There are sites on the dark web that sell drugs, sex, hacking software, counterfeit money, guns and more. It is a space beyond the control of individual states where things can be exchanged freely without fear of being censored or stopped by government. Law enforcement can bust people here, but it's not common. Most people get away with horrific things including displays of necrophilia, child pornography and various forms terrorism to name a few. As countries continue to crack down on the web, its dark counterpart is only going to become more relevant as a place to discuss, trade and connect with each other.

What are the biggest pros to this network and what are your biggest concerns? Have/would you ever browse the dark web?
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1/1/2017 11:00:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
the dark web was made out of necessity, so criminals can be confident that they will always have it available for their purposes, even if governments are finding ways to catch them.

I think the sheer explicitness of the crimes that occur there plus the availability creates a morbid curiosity that is appealing to regular Joe's like you and me.
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1/19/2017 5:17:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/30/2016 10:02:44 PM, Danielle wrote:
The Dark/Deep Web (not the same but similar) refers to parts of the Internet that cannot be searched by search engine, and which requires special access to view. There are sites on the dark web that sell drugs, sex, hacking software, counterfeit money, guns and more. It is a space beyond the control of individual states where things can be exchanged freely without fear of being censored or stopped by government. Law enforcement can bust people here, but it's not common. Most people get away with horrific things including displays of necrophilia, child pornography and various forms terrorism to name a few. As countries continue to crack down on the web, its dark counterpart is only going to become more relevant as a place to discuss, trade and connect with each other.

What are the biggest pros to this network and what are your biggest concerns? Have/would you ever browse the dark web?

Its just how the system works. Smokes and mirrors. The cover your azzes motto.
Its been going on for years. There are thousands if not millions of websites that cannot be found on the internet search engines. If you don't have access, you don't get in. Simple.
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3/15/2017 9:35:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/30/2016 10:02:44 PM, Danielle wrote:
The Dark/Deep Web (not the same but similar)
Interestingly, apparently only 4% of web pages are indexed by search engines. The rest are comprised of the deep web. Now, I'd be willing to bet that 95%+ of the remaining 96% are all restricted access sites (for example, my facebook messages page is part of the deep web because only I can view it) as part of corporate websites or members-only sites.

refers to parts of the Internet that cannot be searched by search engine, and which requires special access to view.
the "dark web"
There are sites on the dark web that sell drugs, sex, hacking software, counterfeit money, guns and more. It is a space beyond the control of individual states where things can be exchanged freely without fear
Well... if you don't fear being caught while engaging in that stuff you are much more likely to be caught.
of being censored or stopped by government. Law enforcement can bust people here, but it's not common. Most people get away with horrific things including displays of necrophilia, child pornography and various forms terrorism to name a few.
I think these reports are overblown. Though... let's just say a "risky click" on reddit is about 100x less risky than a "risky click" on the dark web. You might see something that will have you reinstalling your web browser and clearing your cache every way you know how to lol.
As countries continue to crack down on the web, its dark counterpart is only going to become more relevant as a place to discuss, trade and connect with each other.

What are the biggest pros to this network
Reduced ability of the government to censor, track, and oppress.

and what are your biggest concerns?
Obviously, the enablement of evil to go undetected. But it's the same way all the time. We don't allow the gov. to put microphones in all of our hours, and children get abused every day because of it. I once heard it best from my friend who's a political science professor.... there's nothing inherently wrong with prohibiting hate speech. The problem is that a government powerful enough to effectively prohibit hate speech is part of a system more evil than the one that allows it.

Have/would you ever browse the dark web?
Yes, and like the other poster says, it's a good way for idiots to lose thousands of dollars to techie con artists pretending to be hitmen. It's all very risky. I said some of what you said is overblown, but... it's definitely there. You can get in trouble if you want to.

If I wanted to do anything illegal on there (even as innocuous as buying shrooms from silk road) I would be way more careful than I was when I was just checking it out. For anyone else interested, if you don't know how you can be caught using TOR, then assume you will be. Don't use it. If you want to research it, then go ahead. Personally I would burn TAILS to a CD, boot up at a cash-for-internet-time cafe with no cameras and go there with a non-descript hat and hood and do whatever it is I'm gonna do. (AND NOTHING ELSE) If I store any files it's on a USB that never gets plugged into an internet-connected computer (except for the TAILS instance) and when I'm done with it it's either fully encrypted and kept somewhere safe-ish (preferably outside) or physically destroyed.

That's assuming I'm like, in a plot to kill the president or something. WHICH I AM NOT, NSA

I think the best case though is once TOR use becomes widespread, and people are using it far more for regular browsing than for anything else. The more "white noise" there is to hide in, the harder it is for oppressive governments to crack down on dissenters, because the traffic is so diluted.
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8/20/2018 2:21:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I think the sheer explicitness of the crimes that occur there plus the availability creates a morbid curiosity that is appealing to regular Joe's like you and me.
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