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7/25/2017 3:10:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I will be posting the End Game. Please refrain from posting until I finish the entire End Game. Thank you.

Closing
As night passes by, the entire town has been put into a nightmare. Dawn never comes. The last angel has fallen. The town disappears from maps and human knowledge. It"s as though this town never existed in the first place. Soon, a gateway from hell will appear and this darkness will grow, swallowing its surroundings. Will humanity eventually be doomed? That is but, another story...

The Prophet"s Dream (Explanation)
Two stars from the heavens fell, (Two Angels)
Two shadows from the depths of hell, (Two Demons)

Eight blank slates for angels to paint, (Eight Town that can be activated by angels)
That demons will keep trying to taint, (Demons can taint Town)

Tainted art hidden by a shell, (Tainted town will not know they have been tainted)
Not broken, but no one can tell, (Tainted town does not die when tainted)

The demons seek the angels" death, (Demons wincon :Killing Angels)
A drop of ink, their final breath, (Tainting angels kill them)

In the day please put up a fight, (Town Wincon :Lynching Demons)
To save the angels from the darkness of night, (Before Demons Kill Angels)

Roles
Demons : Won


Wylted : Demon/Gardener
Your name is Antonio Jose. You are the manor"s gardener. You are quite happy with your job tending the plants and flowers. But you know that there is only one Rose that matters to you. You are in love with the mistress of the manor. Every day you work till late in the evening as the more time you spend at the manor, the more chances you have to take a glimpse of the mistress. One night while tending to the Lilies you see two shooting stars in sky. As you close your eyes and made your wish you hear a thud as something struck the ground in front of you. You see a black dagger with red inscriptions pulsating, as if the daggar had a life of its own. Curiosity took over and you touch the dagger. You suddenly feel confident and powerful. The dagger whispers promises of more to come. But first. A price must be paid. The soul of two Angels.

You are a demon. Your goal is to kill the two Angels by stabbing them at night with the Dagger of Darkness. You can choose one person to stab every night. Stabbed Angels die at the start of the next DP. Stabbed townies don"t die, but gets abilities with a tweak unknown to them that is detrimental to town. You may or may not know what ability or tweaks they get. You have a Demon partner whom you will never share a pm with. However in the event you accidentally stab your Demon partner, you will wake up with a slap on your face (posted in the DP).

Daggers of Darkness and Daggers of Light have the ability to overwrite each other and the townies ability will occur based on the last Dagger stabbed. Daggers of Light will be considered acting last if both occurs on the same night. To balance that out, Demons will be notified of the Angels who stabbed them.

Subutai : Demon/Musician
Your name is Luther Von Penn and you are a musician. Your earnings busking in the market isn"t great, but enough to feed your stomach. After all you really don"t need much. Your music feeds your soul. One night as you were walking home taking a short cut through a dark pathway you watch in awe as two shooting stars fall from the sky. Suddenly a dagger black with glowing red inscriptions fall right in front of you, tempting you to touch it. You can feel promises of riches and glory coaxing you nearer and nearer. As you grab the hilt of the dagger you feel your soul constricted. Your time to shine has come. There"s only one price to pay. The soul of two Angels.

You are a demon. Your goal is to kill the two Angels by stabbing them at night with the Dagger of Darkness. You can choose one person to stab every night. Stabbed Angels die at the start of the next DP. Stabbed townies don"t die, but gets abilities with a tweak unknown to them that is detrimental to town. You may or may not know what ability or tweaks they get. You have a Demon partner whom you will never share a pm with. However in the event you accidentally stab your Demon partner, you will wake up with a slap on your face (posted in the DP).

Daggers of Darkness and Daggers of Light have the ability to overwrite each other and the townies ability will occur based on the last Dagger stabbed. Daggers of Light will be considered acting last if both occurs on the same night. To balance that out, Demons will be notified of the Angels who stabbed them.
Angels : Lost

Cosmo : Angel/Chef
You wake up early every morning to visit the markets. Fresh ingredients are the heart of your creations. You are Alfred Cesare and a young chef who fell in love with this seaside town. You have a caf" where you experiment every day. Your patrons have told you time and time again to raise the price of your food, but you always reply that their smile is more than enough for payment. After all, that was the very reason you became a chef. One evening as you were closing your caf", you see two shooting stars in the sky. Suddenly one of them changed directions and headed towards you. You duck behind a table and waited, but the crash never came. You felt surprise when a light glow envelops you and you see memories not of yours, feeling warmth and joy in the process.

You are an Angel. You were sent down to cleanse town of the Demons that rose from darkness. But it takes time before you can reach your full strength. So you have chosen to hide within one whom you feel the goodness in their heart. At this point your weapon, the Dagger of Light is not strong enough to banish Demons. But you can still stab townies to bless them with abilities. You have an Angel partner whom you don"t know them at the start of the Day. However in the event that you stab your Angel partner, you will both share a PM permanently from the next NP onwards.

Daggers of Darkness and Daggers of Light have the ability to overwrite each other and the townies ability will occur based on the last Dagger stabbed. Daggers of Light will be considered acting last if both occurs on the same night. To balance that out, Demons will be notified of the Angels who stabbed them.

Anoid : Angel/Teacher
Every day Monday to Friday your classes start at 8 in the morning and ends at 5. Your name is Fiona but you are known as Ms. Turner to your little ones. Teaching in a small town is difficult as less staff means more work. But you look forward to each days because you love kids and teaching them brings joy. As you were walking home one evening you happen to see two shooting stars. Suddenly one of them changes directions heading towards you. You should feel fear but you don"t. Someone is calling your name. As the shooting star reaches you, you suddenly gain memories.

You are an Angel. You were sent down to cleanse town of the Demons that rose from darkness. But it takes time before you can reach your full strength. So you have chosen to hide within one whom you feel the goodness in their heart. At this point your weapon, the Dagger of Light is not strong enough to banish Demons. But you can still stab townies to bless them with abilities. You have an Angel partner whom you don"t know them at the start of the Day. However in the event that you stab your Angel partner, you will both share a PM permanently from the next NP onwards.

Daggers of Darkness and Daggers of Light have the ability to overwrite each other and the townies ability will occur based on the last Dagger stabbed. Daggers of Light will be considered acting last if both occurs on the same night. To balance that out, Demons will be notified of the Angels who stabbed them.
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7/25/2017 3:13:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I could've got that, lol. Well done, Wylted.
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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7/25/2017 3:14:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Town : Lost
Devilry/Bsh : Ranger(activated)/Tracker

Bears, snakes and boars walk these woods. But as Robert Jacobs, the forest ranger, they are your friends. After all, you are at home in the woods. You could track almost any living creatures, from the wild animals, to lost trackers and even illegal poachers. One evening on the way home from your daily patrols, you see two shooting stars. Such a picturesque scene between the ocean and the hills that you wonder, how does greed blind people to the beauty of Mother Nature?

Activation
The prick from your back from last night was a curious thing. You are quite sure you know of all creatures wild that would sting, but none crosses your mind. You feel troubled tonight, quite sure something is going on but not sure what. You decide it was time for a night patrol. It"s been awhile since u have a hunch this strong and your hunches are never wrong.

You are a Tracker. Every night you can select one person to track. You will receive a report of who that person visited but not what that person"s role is nor what actions have been performed.

Taint
Tracker will receive a randomly generated report. Randomly generated report has a chance of generating a true report.

Tuf : Watcher(hidden)/Stargazer
You were born in the city but you like it out here better. Your name is Simon Theodore and you are a stargazer. You hate the city filled with light pollution at night. The neon lights and the blazing advertisement drown out the true beauty in the skies. One night as you were on your favorite hill with your telescope gazing into the night sky, you see two shooting stars. Your decision to move here is truly an un-regrettable one.

Activation
The prick on your back last night was a tad bit uncomfortable. Probably from a bug on the hill or something. But for some reason, tonight you have a feeling that something is wrong. And for the first time since you shifted here, you turn your telescope away from the night sky.

You are a Watcher. Every night you can select one person to watch. You will receive a report of who visited that person. If multiple names appear, order of names are randomly generated and do not reflect visitors priority.

Taint
Watcher will receive a randomly generated report. Randomly generated report has a chance of generating a true report.

Udel : Rolecop(activated)/Scientist
The lay person might be surprise about how little we know about nature. That is why you, Madeline Grey, the scientist, shifted to this town. With the beach on one front and the woods on another, this town is paradise to you. Some might say you are crazy, researching things which are useless and have no real implications in life. But you know better than that. Every little thing we learn today may have greater implications in the future. And that is why, you love your job.

Activation
Something is really wrong. You don"t just get pricks on your back. You were in your clean room for goodness sake. You can"t sleep thinking about it. There"s only one thing to do. When in doubt, research. Look at it under the microscope. You walk towards your lab. It"s going to be a busy night.

You are a RoleCop. Every night you can select one person to investigate. You will receive a report on the person"s role.

Taint
RoleCop will auto vig the person he is investigating. RoleCop will not receive any indication that he/she is responsible for the vig. Vig affects everyone (including Angels and Demons and self). RoleCop will still receive report on target"s role regardless status of target.

Forever : Dreamer(activated)/Kid
Sally looks cute again today. Sigh. I wonder if she"d ever noti.. *bump* ouch.. Oi Timmy watch where you going.

Yes your name is Timmy Green and you are a kid living in this town. You tend to zone out at times, enjoying your little day dreams. After all, you are just a kid, enjoying his life without worries, aside from the constant nagging from your parents and teachers. Timmy pay attention in class. Timmy eat your veggies. Timmy tie your shoelaces. Tonight like all nights, your mother tucks you into bed. Just as she closes the door, you look out the window to see two shooting stars. "I wish Sally would talk to me tomorrow". And soon you fall into slumber.

Activation
You kept thinking about the dream last night and the prick on your back. You"ve had falling dreams, happy dreams and even, god forbid, nightmares. But none that left you feeling it the next morning. And something kept tugging at your mind. It"s someone you met today. But who? You feel sleepy again. Maybe you will think about it tomorrow. Soon you drift off to sleep again.

You are a dreamer. Every night you choose one person and you will receive a dream on that player"s status. Your dreams may be vague and it is up to you to figure out what they mean. Your selected person will count as a visit.

Taint
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
You jolt awake in cold sweat.
"Honey its ok. Its just a nightmare" your mom comforts you.
"No.. Its.. I"m.. It.." *sobs*
You cant say. You know you cant say. You try but the horror. The terror. You can feel a knife on your throat. An invisible knife that will slice slowly and painfully should you tell your dream.

You dreamed an Unimaginable Terror! You are not allowed to say or hint at the last person you visited. Each attempt will add to the severity meter. Once the severity meter has crossed the threshold, you will die automatically and the DP will end as town will be stunned by the horror of your death. The severity meter will not reset at any point in the game.

Lm/sui : Bait(hidden)/Fisherman
An old man by the sea. He cast his rod and wait. Patience is the keyword. Your name is John Gustav and you are the fisherman. As a retiree you spend your time fishing. It"s peaceful. One evening on your way home, you see two shooting stars. "I wish I"d catch a bigger fish tomorrow" you muse.

Activation
You check your bed again but find nothing. That prick last night felt like a fish hook. You shut your eyes but can"t find sleep. Must be the weather. There"s really only one cure for insomnia, midnight fishing. You pick up your rod and head out the door.
You are The Bait. Every night you can choose one person to hook. Hooking Demons will reveal yourself to them as Angels.

Tainted
Selecting Angels will hook Angels to the string. The Demon responsible for the taint will be given a choice to follow the string. The string reveals the name of the Angels in the next DP. Nothing happens while selecting anyone else who are not Angels.
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7/25/2017 3:21:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Warren : Trap(activated)/Mechanic
Dark blue overalls stained with grease. That is your uniform every day. You are Max Connors the mechanic. You don"t really like your job but it"s the only thing you know how to do. You learnt from your father who learnt from his father. Your workshop has been passed down for three generations. As you walk home one evening you see two shooting stars. You wish upon it for a better life, one that is less dirty.

Activation
You could have sworn your house is infested with rats. That"s probably what bit you last night. You can"t find any other explanation for it. Guess it"s time to bring out the Rat Trap 3000. Now where"s that piece of cheese?

Hidden
Demons stabbing the Trap will cause their Knife to burst into flames. It takes one night to re-forge the Knife. The Trap will receive a report but not the name of the demon.

Taint
Angels stabbing the Trap will cause their Knife to burst into flames. It takes one night to re-forge the Knife. The Trap will receive a report but not the name of the angel.

Chaos : Sensor(activated)/Priest
You sit in front of the alter praying. As Romeo Castino, the priest of the town, that is part of your daily evening ritual. Suddenly you feel two waves of joy and elation. It felt more real than ever before, like the presence of something good and holy. But the waves of happiness lasted only awhile followed by two waves of anger and despair. You know something is wrong but not sure what. You move to the shelf and retrieve the bag of salt. It never hurts to be prepared.

Activation
You didn"t sleep well last night. You could have sworn you felt a prick on your back, and you feel different. You feel like you could sense goodness and evil, to a certain extent. You can"t really tell the source of the feelings you get, but you are clear the number of each individual source. You ponder how this information would help you.

You are the sensor. Every morning (before the DP begins) you will receive a message on the number of "painted" and "tainted" slates there are. Painted and Tainted slates refer to town that has been touched by angels and demons. You may reveal this information to town but these will never be mod confirmed for you.

Taint
The number of "painted" and "tainted" would be swapped.

Danielle : Messenger(activated)/Postman
In this age of technology, the postage business seems quite obsolete. But the people of this town use it quite frequently. Why? Because sending physical letters are more meaningful than text messages. And also because not many here have computers. Your name is Angelo Franco and you are the postman. You send letters in the morning and visit the pubs in the evening. One night as you were heading to your favourite watering hole on your bicycle, you see two shooting stars, so beautiful in the night sky. Hopefully you will meet a lady just as beautiful today.

Activation
Last night must have been a very merry night. You can"t remember much when you woke up. Just a slight prick on your back. Must have been from sleeping in a weird position. As you reach into your bag for an aspirin, you touch a letter. Oh no! You must have missed it when finishing your rounds in the morning. You run out the door to the address. Hopefully this incident won"t get you fired.

You are The Messenger. Each night you can send 1 message to any person of your choice. You can be mod confirmed (optional) as the sender of the message in the NP.

Tainted
Demon who tainted will intercept message instead.

Night Actions
NP1
Wylted stabs Cosmo - Cosmo dies
Subutai stabs Chao - Chaos gains Tainted Sensor Role
Anoid stabs Forever - Forever gains Dreamer Role
Cosmo stabs Chaos - Chaos gains Sensor Role
Chaos senses 2 painted

NP2
Wylted stabs Udel - Udel gains Tainted Rolecop Role
Anoid stabs Dani - Dani gains Messenger Role
Forever Dreams of lm/sui - boring dream
Chaos Senses 3 painted 1 tainted

NP3
Wylted stabs Warren - Warren gains Tainted Trap Role
Anoid stabs bsh - bsh gains Tracker Role
Dani messages bsh
Forever Dreams of Udel - dirty dream
Udel Kills Warren
Chaos senses 4 painted 1 tainted

NP4
Wylted stabs Anoid " Anoid dies (endgame)

MVP : Wylted
He not only deduced both Angel"s Identity, he lead a lynch on Sub (although by accident) which ultimately made him the most town read among all of town.

Further Comments
1. Role Confirmation
I was consistent with confirming affiliations. I was however, enigmatic when asked about roles by town as they aren"t vanilla per se.
2. "Mod Slip"
Due to the nature of this setup, Forever replacing in regardless of previous affiliation does not break the game. Demons could be replaced in as town as demons do not know each other at that point of time. It would be not ideal however as Forever would have known his previous night actions and may affect his judgement.
3. Improvements which could have been made
It might have been better to provide both Angels and Demons with a sample of Town"s un-activated PM or a strategy on how they should play with.
4. The jobs provided has a certain link to their unactivated roles (eg. Ranger-Tracker) and it might have been good to hint this to town.

Final Notes
I might have been victim of FPS, but it has been fun writing the backstory for this game. I apologise if some of you felt you were victims to bastard modding, but that was never my intention.
Once again, thank you all for participating and I hope you all had fun :)
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7/25/2017 3:23:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
We should be focused on

Anoid
Wylted
Subutai

Did I, or did I not, find everyone with something going on about them?
That's like 50 posts into D2 btw.
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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7/25/2017 3:24:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
You fell victim to FPS, but it was a very well designed game. My only problem is that I think the angels should've outnumbered the demons.
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7/25/2017 3:26:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
There was nothing wrong with the game at all.
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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7/25/2017 3:26:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 3:23:39 AM, Devilry wrote:
We should be focused on

Anoid
Wylted
Subutai

Did I, or did I not, find everyone with something going on about them?
That's like 50 posts into D2 btw.

Damn. Very impressed (though without context I'm not 100% sure)
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7/25/2017 3:27:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 3:26:15 AM, warren42 wrote:
At 7/25/2017 3:23:39 AM, Devilry wrote:
We should be focused on

Anoid
Wylted
Subutai

Did I, or did I not, find everyone with something going on about them?
That's like 50 posts into D2 btw.

Damn. Very impressed (though without context I'm not 100% sure)

I mean, it's there, on DP2, about 2 pages in lol.

And amn't I always saying town PRs will tell like scum? See.
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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7/25/2017 3:28:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 3:26:10 AM, Devilry wrote:
There was nothing wrong with the game at all.

I think that the demon wincon is much easier to achieve. Say they both stay alive for NP0, NP1, NP2. They now know 6/10 town-aligned players are not the angels, assuming they don't kill an angel.
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7/25/2017 3:29:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 3:27:26 AM, Devilry wrote:
I mean, it's there, on DP2, about 2 pages in lol.

I'll look for it, because assuming you weren't just throwing stuff out there I'm definitely impressed.

And amn't I always saying town PRs will tell like scum? See.

I think the angels are different than a typical PR. I do think PRs may be a bit scummy, but the angels definitely.
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7/25/2017 3:29:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 3:28:07 AM, warren42 wrote:
At 7/25/2017 3:26:10 AM, Devilry wrote:
There was nothing wrong with the game at all.

I think that the demon wincon is much easier to achieve. Say they both stay alive for NP0, NP1, NP2. They now know 6/10 town-aligned players are not the angels, assuming they don't kill an angel.

Meh. I think you were right DP1 about how we shouldn't have been saying anything. But otherwise it might've been a solid enough game. And even so, with the game going to DP4, town had plenty chance.

I'd say this game was fairly well balanced tbh. Definitely could've gone either way.
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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7/25/2017 3:32:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 3:24:25 AM, warren42 wrote:
You fell victim to FPS, but it was a very well designed game. My only problem is that I think the angels should've outnumbered the demons.

Daggers of Light will be considered acting last if both occurs on the same night.

I was hoping it would balance out the way the Daggers work as can be seen in NP1 where Chaos was overwritten even though he was tainted.
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7/25/2017 3:32:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I ain't gonna try explain how I ended up reading Wylted angel, but he played off it well lmao.

And I had Anoid for remaining angel right before him too. F*ck lol.
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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7/25/2017 3:33:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 3:28:07 AM, warren42 wrote:
At 7/25/2017 3:26:10 AM, Devilry wrote:
There was nothing wrong with the game at all.

I think that the demon wincon is much easier to achieve. Say they both stay alive for NP0, NP1, NP2. They now know 6/10 town-aligned players are not the angels, assuming they don't kill an angel.

yes but demons do not know each other and will never share a pm. there are chances that they both stab the same target as well.
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7/25/2017 3:35:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
However in the event you accidentally stab your Demon partner, you will wake up with a slap on your face (posted in the DP).

^honestly i was hoping this triggered at some point in the game.
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7/25/2017 3:55:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
A balanced game does not equal one that's going to drag out 8 DPs of mindless babble. No offense, now.
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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7/25/2017 3:58:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
On a side note, town might have won had Wylted not killed the last angel as bsh was tracking him NP4
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7/25/2017 3:59:05 AM
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This game wasn't balanced because town started at an even greater disadvantage than usual (they had to go a night without roles but where mafia could NK), and town's "taints" meant that our results could not be trusted anyway. It's one thing to have flavors for one or two players, it is an entirely different thing for every single player to possibly have some kind of anti-town skew to their role. Moreover, the sheer amount of confusion both from the lack of pre-game and in-game information and the lack of mod clarity on issues made it extremely difficult for town to operate effectively. If town spends all its time in the dark, obviously mafia is going to win--that's why town needs a foundation of clarity to build on and (usually) at least one trustworthy investigative role to use.
I'm a Bish.
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7/25/2017 3:59:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 3:58:19 AM, VelCrow wrote:
On a side note, town might have won had Wylted not killed the last angel as bsh was tracking him NP4

This sounds balanced to me.
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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7/25/2017 4:01:42 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 3:58:19 AM, VelCrow wrote:
On a side note, town might have won had Wylted not killed the last angel as bsh was tracking him NP4

Anoid was my top scumread. Obviously my reads weren't that great this game. That said, I wasn't sure that Anoid was scum. I had three possibilities for scum: LM/Sui, Wylted, and Anoid. Wylted was the only one who I didn't have some kind of read on, and so I wanted to eliminate him from consideration. If it came down to just LM/Sui and Anoid, I was planning to VTL Anoid, because I felt than LM was probs town and Anoid was probs scum. If it had come down to Wylted vs. LM or Wylted vs. Anoid, I would've been less sure about what to do.
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7/25/2017 4:08:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Also, i used an rng to assign roles. i wonder what would have happened if wylted was on town team. There was a 16% chance of 1 dead angel D2 (assuming demons randomly stab). I was quite surprise when town had a handicap so early in the game.
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7/25/2017 4:10:56 AM
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At 7/25/2017 3:13:53 AM, Devilry wrote:
I could've got that, lol. Well done, Wylted.

Thanks. I will have to read to figure out how the fvck warren died. Also AI angel read Subutai which is why I wanted his lynch. I immediately regretted it but it worked out.
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7/25/2017 4:18:57 AM
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At 7/25/2017 4:08:11 AM, VelCrow wrote:
Also, i used an rng to assign roles. i wonder what would have happened if wylted was on town team. There was a 16% chance of 1 dead angel D2 (assuming demons randomly stab). I was quite surprise when town had a handicap so early in the game.

Cosmo made it obvious he was angel. That was not be stabbing into an angel pool, but angel reading him.
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7/25/2017 4:23:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 4:08:11 AM, VelCrow wrote:
Also, i used an rng to assign roles. i wonder what would have happened if wylted was on town team. There was a 16% chance of 1 dead angel D2 (assuming demons randomly stab). I was quite surprise when town had a handicap so early in the game.

It's more than 16%, Vel.

There were 2 scum and ten townies when the game began. Each scum had two kills, meaning that if each scum stabbed correctly, the game could have been over in DP1. The likelihood of any one angel dying was already 2 in 10 (two angels among ten townies) during NP1--that's 20%. By DP2, if an angel had died and someone had been mislynched, that percentage would be 1 in 8, or 12.5%. Those aren't bad odds for mafia, particularly when they can increase those odds by reading players and forcing claims and townslips.
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7/25/2017 4:24:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2017 4:23:05 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2017 4:08:11 AM, VelCrow wrote:
Also, i used an rng to assign roles. i wonder what would have happened if wylted was on town team. There was a 16% chance of 1 dead angel D2 (assuming demons randomly stab). I was quite surprise when town had a handicap so early in the game.

It's more than 16%, Vel.

There were 2 scum and ten townies when the game began. Each scum had two kills, meaning that if each scum stabbed correctly, the game could have been over in DP1. The likelihood of any one angel dying was already 2 in 10 (two angels among ten townies) during NP1--that's 20%. By DP2, if an angel had died and someone had been mislynched, that percentage would be 1 in 8, or 12.5%. Those aren't bad odds for mafia, particularly when they can increase those odds by reading players and forcing claims and townslips.

In fact, those numbers I cited are probably higher, because mafia had two kill attempts instead of just one.
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7/25/2017 4:26:50 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
DP2 I thought Tuf or Danielle was my scum partner. I wanted to hunt at them I was scum so we could coordinate our actions better. It is why I said "slap me if I am wrong". When tuf said "I will stab you right here", I thought he was signaling he was my scum mate. Also I was gardener, and when Danielle was bringing up potential roles she said Gardner in her first post about it and landscaper in her second post, so i thought she was signaling me.

At that point my angel pool was down to 5 players and I just wanted to avoid killing them 2 at bare minimum, but lynching from my angel pool. LOL though. I flipped the lynch from anoid to sub on DP2. I should have stayed the course. I would have won DP2.

Town kept using activation as confirmation even if they said they weren't. The only activated player in people's scum pools was khaos, but I love how khaos pushed for activated people to out themselves. It really helped narrow my angel pool, and if an angel decided to lie and say he was activated, it risked making him look scummy enough to lynch.

Town played very poorly. I felt I played well. I think had the angel stayed alive and was not killed instantly, people would have felt the game was more balanced.