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Clue Mafia - Day Phase 3

Danielle
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8/7/2017 2:16:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Dead Players

Wylted 1: 3x Justice - town

Udel: You are a 2x Hunter. On any 2 night phases of your choice, you may select a target. If you are lynched the following day phase, your target dies with you. You win with the mafia.

Anoid/bsh1: You are a Jailkeeper. Each night, you may choose to put another player in jail for the duration of the night phase. The jailed person cannot be targeted or killed in the night. They also cannot carry out any role/utility while jailed, including kills. Any used X-shot abilities for that night would be forfeited by someone in jail. You win with the town.

SeventhProfessor: You are a Vanilla townie. You have no official abilities. You win with the town.

Living Players

01 warren
02 Chaos
03 Sui
04 TUF
05 Magic/FT
06 Wylted 2 (Forever)
07 Lucky

It takes 4 votes to carry out a lynch. The day phase will expire on Wednesday, August 9 at 5:55 pm EST.
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8/7/2017 2:30:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Bsh! Nooo!

7th makes sense as the NK. Udel flipping scum basically town confirmed her.

Overall I think a DP2 trade wasn't too bad given that it was nearly inevitable. Better than late game.

Lucky, did you try to take an action NP1?
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8/7/2017 2:31:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Oh, I see. It was not inevitable because it was x-shot. Oh well.
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8/7/2017 2:32:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
TUF is my top scum read
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8/7/2017 3:03:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
But it's not strong. Will re-read soon
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8/7/2017 3:15:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Now I see why danielle wasn't willing to reveal the flip until the DP.

Sucks that we lost Bsh. The trade off of Udel's death really sucks for us actually. With the hunter power I wonder if there are two scum left or just one. I also wonder what power the remaining scum would have. It's likely they wanted Udel to carry out the night kill and risk getting caught to get a townie lynched with him.
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8/7/2017 3:25:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
This is where we are at with claims I think:

01 warren -
02 Chaos -
03 Sui - Tracker
04 TUF -
05 Magic/FT -
06 Wylted 2 - Vanilla
07 Lucky - Vanilla

08 Wylted - Town 3x Justice
09 Udel - Scum 2X Hunter
10 Anoid - Town Jailkeeper
11 Seventh - Vanilla

We have two claimed vanillas and one confirmed on a flip, making three.
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8/7/2017 3:44:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 3:25:32 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
We have two claimed vanillas and one confirmed on a flip, making three.
If there are any other vanillas they should claim now.
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8/7/2017 3:44:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 3:25:32 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
Who do you favor for a lynch?
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8/7/2017 3:52:07 PM
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I said last DP that I didn't like Chaos' defense of Udel, should he flip scum. He did. That said, I don't see Chaos defending Udel as scum. Something about it just seems forced, but it's too overtly scummy. I'll re-read the defense and post what I think about it tonight.

FT thought that if Udel was scum, Sui was his partner. I don't see it, so I really want to know why. Udel's flip buys FT/LM town cred.
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8/7/2017 4:39:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
One by one the clues get overlooked.

Including this one, there have been at least 6 clues in the game (day phase) so far to give context.

Some clues are admittedly more helpful than others.
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8/7/2017 4:42:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 3:44:51 PM, Sui_Generis wrote:
At 8/7/2017 3:25:32 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
Who do you favor for a lynch?

I'm not sure. For some reason FT isn't sold on you, but I think your town and have been leaning town with my read on you all game. I especially think you would not have outed the tracking results as scum, because it ran the risk of informing town of the hunter role, which would have entirely undermined it. I am waiting on FT's thoughts, but I have you as my strongest town read. Chaos I am a little suspicious of, but I also don't think he'd keep tunneling us as scum. It draws unnecessary attention to himself and would create suspicion on him once we flipped scum should he succeed in our lynch. TUF I am not sold on as town, but FT seemed to be pretty confident in his town read of TUF. It strikes me as interesting that TUF claimed he could confirm Bsh. This seems like something scum could do to get town cred, knowing Bsh was town. But I'd generally like to know how TUF could possibly confirm Bsh visited (jailkept) lucky. Warren I am not sure of. I noted the inconsistency in his playstyle this game and I don't see how a breakup makes someone more focused, aggressive, and active, but he hasn't stood out to me since DP1. Wylted2 seems to be focused since replacing in, which is noteworthy. He was obnoxious and d!ckish as town DP1. Lucky didn't post at all last DP, so I don't know what to make of him. Right now I buy his vanilla claim, especially since he gave it post clue. I guess if I was to rank the players from most suspicious to least it'd be:

TUF
Wylted2
Chaos
Warren
Sui
Lucky

But I don't have a strong enough scum read to lynch someone yet.
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8/7/2017 4:46:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 3:52:07 PM, warren42 wrote:
I said last DP that I didn't like Chaos' defense of Udel, should he flip scum. He did. That said, I don't see Chaos defending Udel as scum. Something about it just seems forced, but it's too overtly scummy. I'll re-read the defense and post what I think about it tonight.

FT thought that if Udel was scum, Sui was his partner. I don't see it, so I really want to know why. Udel's flip buys FT/LM town cred.
I remember thinking at the time that I understood why, but that it was ridiculous.

I'm betting he doesn't still think it. Even apart from my assistance in lynching him.
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8/7/2017 4:47:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 3:52:07 PM, warren42 wrote:
I said last DP that I didn't like Chaos' defense of Udel, should he flip scum. He did. That said, I don't see Chaos defending Udel as scum. Something about it just seems forced, but it's too overtly scummy. I'll re-read the defense and post what I think about it tonight.

I need to read this too. I don't remember chaos defending udel. I remember him being antagonistic to FT. The way the end of the DP seemed to me is that udel didn't put up a fight, I imagine the scummate(s) wouldn't either. Now that i see the flip I think it's because they didn't care since they knew anoid would die too. We were duped a little.

FT thought that if Udel was scum, Sui was his partner. I don't see it, so I really want to know why.

I don't see it either. So I can't help you with that. I think sui is town.
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8/7/2017 4:48:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 4:42:28 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
FT's confidence in TUF stays my suspicion, so I'll join you for Wylted pressure.

More input after work after a reread
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8/7/2017 4:48:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
When I have time later I will compile all of Danielle's posts to try to find all these alleged clews we're missing.
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8/7/2017 4:49:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 4:39:52 PM, Danielle wrote:
One by one the clues get overlooked.

Including this one, there have been at least 6 clues in the game (day phase) so far to give context.

Some clues are admittedly more helpful than others.

Take it easy velcrow. ;-)
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8/7/2017 4:51:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 4:48:26 PM, Sui_Generis wrote:
At 8/7/2017 4:42:28 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
FT's confidence in TUF stays my suspicion, so I'll join you for Wylted pressure.

More input after work after a reread

Id like to know if he's still confident. He expressed the read with certainty DP1. There's been little to no discussion of TUF since, and I haven't even considered him as a scum candidate really. But now I think by PoE he needs to be looked at. I will await FT's thoughts though before pressuring him. Should we get a claim from wylted?
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8/7/2017 4:57:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 4:49:02 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
Take it easy velcrow. ;-)

My face every time LikeMagic complains about VelCrow's (admittedly kinda bogus) game: http://i.imgur.com...
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8/7/2017 5:04:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 4:57:02 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 8/7/2017 4:49:02 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
Take it easy velcrow. ;-)

My face every time LikeMagic complains about VelCrow's (admittedly kinda bogus) game: http://i.imgur.com...

In that case I will complain more often
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8/7/2017 6:14:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 3:25:32 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
This is where we are at with claims I think:

01 warren -
02 Chaos -
03 Sui - Tracker
04 TUF -
05 Magic/FT -
06 Wylted 2 - Vanilla
07 Lucky - Vanilla

08 Wylted - Town 3x Justice
09 Udel - Scum 2X Hunter
10 Anoid - Town Jailkeeper
11 Seventh - Vanilla

We have two claimed vanillas and one confirmed on a flip, making three.

Why weren't't you guys on that lynch wagon when it was supposedly a scum read of yours? It seems really retarded or scummy not to be on that.
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8/7/2017 6:15:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 3:52:07 PM, warren42 wrote:
I said last DP that I didn't like Chaos' defense of Udel, should he flip scum. He did. That said, I don't see Chaos defending Udel as scum. Something about it just seems forced, but it's too overtly scummy. I'll re-read the defense and post what I think about it tonight.

FT thought that if Udel was scum, Sui was his partner. I don't see it, so I really want to know why. Udel's flip buys FT/LM town cred.

Chaos voted withtown. Meanwhile FT scum read Udel but then did not vote. WTF
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8/7/2017 6:17:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 6:14:01 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 8/7/2017 3:25:32 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
This is where we are at with claims I think:

01 warren -
02 Chaos -
03 Sui - Tracker
04 TUF -
05 Magic/FT -
06 Wylted 2 - Vanilla
07 Lucky - Vanilla

08 Wylted - Town 3x Justice
09 Udel - Scum 2X Hunter
10 Anoid - Town Jailkeeper
11 Seventh - Vanilla

We have two claimed vanillas and one confirmed on a flip, making three.

Why weren't't you guys on that lynch wagon when it was supposedly a scum read of yours? It seems really retarded or scummy not to be on that.

we did vote.
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8/7/2017 6:19:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 6:15:36 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 8/7/2017 3:52:07 PM, warren42 wrote:
I said last DP that I didn't like Chaos' defense of Udel, should he flip scum. He did. That said, I don't see Chaos defending Udel as scum. Something about it just seems forced, but it's too overtly scummy. I'll re-read the defense and post what I think about it tonight.

FT thought that if Udel was scum, Sui was his partner. I don't see it, so I really want to know why. Udel's flip buys FT/LM town cred.

Chaos voted withtown. Meanwhile FT scum read Udel but then did not vote. WTF

What are you talking about? I unvoted pending sui's info, then FT came on and pushed his lynch when I was off.
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8/7/2017 6:20:24 PM
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Abyobe not on that super obvious wagon is suspect. Particularly the ones who thought he was scum but refused to vote

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8/7/2017 6:21:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 6:19:08 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
At 8/7/2017 6:15:36 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 8/7/2017 3:52:07 PM, warren42 wrote:
I said last DP that I didn't like Chaos' defense of Udel, should he flip scum. He did. That said, I don't see Chaos defending Udel as scum. Something about it just seems forced, but it's too overtly scummy. I'll re-read the defense and post what I think about it tonight.

FT thought that if Udel was scum, Sui was his partner. I don't see it, so I really want to know why. Udel's flip buys FT/LM town cred.

Chaos voted withtown. Meanwhile FT scum read Udel but then did not vote. WTF

What are you talking about? I unvoted pending sui's info, then FT came on and pushed his lynch when I was off.

Lookat the final vote count
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8/7/2017 6:24:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 6:21:18 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 8/7/2017 6:19:08 PM, LikeMagic wrote:
At 8/7/2017 6:15:36 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 8/7/2017 3:52:07 PM, warren42 wrote:
I said last DP that I didn't like Chaos' defense of Udel, should he flip scum. He did. That said, I don't see Chaos defending Udel as scum. Something about it just seems forced, but it's too overtly scummy. I'll re-read the defense and post what I think about it tonight.

FT thought that if Udel was scum, Sui was his partner. I don't see it, so I really want to know why. Udel's flip buys FT/LM town cred.

Chaos voted withtown. Meanwhile FT scum read Udel but then did not vote. WTF

What are you talking about? I unvoted pending sui's info, then FT came on and pushed his lynch when I was off.

Lookat the final vote count

Then there's clearly either a miscount or FT missed the fact I unvoted when I was off. But FT made all of the arguments for lynching Udel and scum read him long before anyone. So it's interesting that you're trying to argue us scum by the vote count. Please explain what you think would be the scum motive in pushing his lynch but then not lynching him?
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8/7/2017 6:26:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/7/2017 6:22:14 PM, Wylted wrote:
Anyway this thing is dying. Maybe just lynch lucky. Between him and the duo

what's dying. what are you talking about. This is a pretty active game and some of the most veteran players are the ones still alive. And how is lucky a top scum read?