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TUF
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5/20/2013 11:55:06 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 11:18:45 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 5/20/2013 3:09:26 AM, TUF wrote:
I'll bite that rocket and royal are town for now based on rockets earlier post. Expect alot more activity from me in the next couple days. I was actually really excited for this game but was it started right as my drill did. Unvote

What makes you think they're both town? They could both be scum.

Could be. I don't think it confirms them, but I am just saying that I buy it for now that's all.
ishallannoyyo
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5/20/2013 5:06:04 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Well the website said that sheeping isn't necessarily a scum-tell, it might just be an indicator that the player is nooby and doesn't know what to do independently.
drafterman
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5/20/2013 5:07:30 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 5:06:04 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
Well the website said that sheeping isn't necessarily a scum-tell, it might just be an indicator that the player is nooby and doesn't know what to do independently.

"Players who consistently sheep tend to be seen as nuisances, difficult to read, and bad players simultaneously."
ishallannoyyo
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5/20/2013 5:11:42 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 5:07:30 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/20/2013 5:06:04 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
Well the website said that sheeping isn't necessarily a scum-tell, it might just be an indicator that the player is nooby and doesn't know what to do independently.

"Players who consistently sheep tend to be seen as nuisances, difficult to read, and bad players simultaneously."

But that doesn't sheeping is scummy. Prodigenius and Idiot are nuisances, difficult to read, and bad players, but they may not be scum because of the act of sheeping.
drafterman
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5/20/2013 5:17:24 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 5:11:42 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 5/20/2013 5:07:30 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/20/2013 5:06:04 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
Well the website said that sheeping isn't necessarily a scum-tell, it might just be an indicator that the player is nooby and doesn't know what to do independently.

"Players who consistently sheep tend to be seen as nuisances, difficult to read, and bad players simultaneously."

But that doesn't sheeping is scummy. Prodigenius and Idiot are nuisances, difficult to read, and bad players, but they may not be scum because of the act of sheeping.

You can be town and still be scummy.
FlippantBuoyancy
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5/20/2013 5:23:42 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
drafter/Logic/royal/Budda are town. We can put johnny, Rocket, and Skep in there to appease drafter. Ishall/Frack are scum, and the rest of the scum are in the lurkers. Probably Zaradi. Pretty easy (read: boring) game. Lets start with ishall?

VTL ishall
Skepsikyma
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5/20/2013 5:25:17 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Well, I don't have much to go on, so here are a loose set of reads based on my observces thusfar:

Johnny:
DP1: Slight Town
Asked who received two roles " no mafia motivation, can only confirm town.

Logic:
DP1: Town
My PM mentions him as my liege.

Drafter:
DP1: Slight Town
His questioning of Logic made sense from a town perspective.

Budda:
DP1: Slight Scum
FoSing me after I full-claimed DP1 for doing something which other players have done while not FOSing them. What is the purpose to this? How does putting pressure on me after I have full claimed help town at all? The only purpose to voting on me at this point is to actually lynch me, and I don"t see how that can be justified

FB:
DP1: Very Slight Scum
Town reading Budda for emotional instead of logical reads after he scum read me, which makes no sense after I full claimed DP1. How does a VTL on me benefit town in any way? What precludes a scum player from making the read that Budda did? This seems like very sloppy reasoning to me, and I would like clarification.

OneE:
DP1: Slight Town
Questioning a town read on Johnny. It seems like scum would be more likely to go after the low-hanging fruit rather than one of the few town-read characters.
"Partout ou vous verrez un autel, la se trouve la civilisation."
- Joseph de Maistre -

"Woe that I live in bitter days,
As God is setting like a sun
And in his place, as lord and slave,
Man raises forth his heinous throne."
- Translation of 'Rhyfel', by Hedd Wyn -

Virtutem videant intabescantque relicta
drafterman
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5/20/2013 5:27:16 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 5:23:42 PM, FlippantBuoyancy wrote:
drafter/Logic/royal/Budda are town. We can put johnny, Rocket, and Skep in there to appease drafter. Ishall/Frack are scum, and the rest of the scum are in the lurkers. Probably Zaradi. Pretty easy (read: boring) game. Lets start with ishall?

VTL ishall

No need to appease me. My reads are my own.

Unvote. VTL ishall
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5/20/2013 5:47:51 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
About to be Executed by Royal Decree

Rocket - 2/8 - Ishall, Royal
Ishall - 3/8 - Logic, Flip, Drafter
Skep - 1/8 - Budda

The DP ends tomorrow at 12:06pm DDO time. If a lynch is not reached, the day will end in a VTNL.
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"Australia... is that a place?" - Airmax 2014
FlippantBuoyancy
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5/20/2013 5:54:49 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Skep, the double standard Budda set for you is not something scum are likely to draw attention to. His appeal to gut in that respect seems very genuine.
Skepsikyma
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5/20/2013 6:26:16 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 5:54:49 PM, FlippantBuoyancy wrote:
Skep, the double standard Budda set for you is not something scum are likely to draw attention to. His appeal to gut in that respect seems very genuine.

Alright, that does make sense. In that case all of my other reads are null, so I'd have to agree that scum is most likely inactive, though I see no reason to town read either Royal or Rocket.
"Partout ou vous verrez un autel, la se trouve la civilisation."
- Joseph de Maistre -

"Woe that I live in bitter days,
As God is setting like a sun
And in his place, as lord and slave,
Man raises forth his heinous throne."
- Translation of 'Rhyfel', by Hedd Wyn -

Virtutem videant intabescantque relicta
ishallannoyyo
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5/20/2013 6:33:40 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 5:23:42 PM, FlippantBuoyancy wrote:
drafter/Logic/royal/Budda are town. We can put johnny, Rocket, and Skep in there to appease drafter. Ishall/Frack are scum, and the rest of the scum are in the lurkers. Probably Zaradi. Pretty easy (read: boring) game. Lets start with ishall?

VTL ishall

Care to explain?
drafterman
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5/20/2013 7:09:18 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 6:26:16 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 5/20/2013 5:54:49 PM, FlippantBuoyancy wrote:
Skep, the double standard Budda set for you is not something scum are likely to draw attention to. His appeal to gut in that respect seems very genuine.

Alright, that does make sense. In that case all of my other reads are null, so I'd have to agree that scum is most likely inactive, though I see no reason to town read either Royal or Rocket.

They've tied themselves together, which scum is not likely to do.
Buddamoose
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5/20/2013 8:44:23 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Skep where is your full-claim?
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
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"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

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drafterman
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5/20/2013 8:46:13 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/19/2013 8:03:03 PM, drafterman wrote:

DEAD

FULL CLAIM
Skepsikyma - Cao Hong - Bodyguard

ROLE CLAIM

CHARACTER CLAIM
Logic - Cao Cao
Ishall - Gongsun Zan
royal - Li Su

UNCLAIMED
1. TUF
2. Budda
3. Drafterman
4. OneElephant
6. RocketEngineer
7. FlippantBuoyancy
9. Johnnyboy54
11. Zaradi
13. lannan13
14. FrackJack
15. Danielle

UVC
Royal - 3/8 - Flip, TUF, Skep
Rocket - 2/8 - ishall, royal
ishall - 1/8 - Logic
Skep - 1/8 - Budda
Skepsikyma
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5/20/2013 8:48:52 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Budda:

At 5/18/2013 10:09:54 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
Alright, full claim:

I am Cao Hong. I am fiercely loyal to Cao Cao, finding him after he was captured in battle and then giving up my own horse to save him. I am a bodyguard.
"Partout ou vous verrez un autel, la se trouve la civilisation."
- Joseph de Maistre -

"Woe that I live in bitter days,
As God is setting like a sun
And in his place, as lord and slave,
Man raises forth his heinous throne."
- Translation of 'Rhyfel', by Hedd Wyn -

Virtutem videant intabescantque relicta
Buddamoose
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5/20/2013 8:50:36 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
ok, I'll unvote then. Cant recall a game where scum fake-claimed bodyguard before so I'm willinng to believe it for now

but I've got my eye on you, rawr
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
drafterman
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5/20/2013 9:02:09 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 8:50:36 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
ok, I'll unvote then. Cant recall a game where scum fake-claimed bodyguard before so I'm willinng to believe it for now

but I've got my eye on you, rawr

Erm... BG is one of the prime scum fake claims.
royalpaladin
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5/20/2013 9:21:16 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 9:02:09 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/20/2013 8:50:36 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
ok, I'll unvote then. Cant recall a game where scum fake-claimed bodyguard before so I'm willinng to believe it for now

but I've got my eye on you, rawr

Erm... BG is one of the prime scum fake claims.

People always say that, but I've never seen it been done.
drafterman
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5/20/2013 9:30:17 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 5/20/2013 9:21:16 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 5/20/2013 9:02:09 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/20/2013 8:50:36 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
ok, I'll unvote then. Cant recall a game where scum fake-claimed bodyguard before so I'm willinng to believe it for now

but I've got my eye on you, rawr

Erm... BG is one of the prime scum fake claims.


People always say that, but I've never seen it been done.

Yes you have. I fake claimed it as mafia in Logica Blaise Massacre game that you were in (also a BG)
Buddamoose
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5/21/2013 1:17:22 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
Unvote VTL Ishall
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
Lucky_Luciano
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5/21/2013 12:13:27 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
About to be Executed by Royal Decree

Rocket - 2/8 - Ishall, Royal
Ishall - 4/8 - Logic, Flip, Drafter, Budda

The DP has ended in a no lynch. Night actions are due by 12:06PM Thursday. Please get them in sooner. No more talking.
"Age is not important" - Airmax 2014
"Australia... is that a place?" - Airmax 2014

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