There are more religious people in jail than than non-religious. And setting the awful morals in the bible aside, they still are less moral and less able to acclimate to today's society. "A good person will be good. An evil person will be evil. But for a good person to do evil, that takes religion."
There are various studies which show that atheism and secularism correlates better correlates which righteousness in character than religion. Not only is an individual prisoner more likely to be a Christian, but in a study of the entire world, countries with more irreligious people than religious were found to be more peaceful nations, with better living conditions, than otherwise.
All around the average Christian is just as likely to be as moral as an Atheist on most issues. However, some issues addressed by both sides, historically and currently are divided. From a historic standpoint for a Christian to not stone a person that committed adultery would have been morally wrong, sadly the historic atheist perspective is not recorded to my knowledge. Currently if such an act was done by someone the stoner would be considered in the moral wrong. This shows that the morals of Christians do change with time meaning they are not stable, however the same can be said about Atheists. The only difference between the two is what dictates right and wrong, for the Christian it’s a book that is out of date (i.E. Stoning as a punishment) while the Atheists morals come from current times, (i.E. Stuff you are taught through life experiences). In this regard, it is likely that atheists are more likely to accept something sooner as morally right than a Christian. One way to quantify the moral issue is to get statistics, such as the prison system, which holds people that have done something that is not morally right. The United States Christian percent of prisoners ranges from as high as 83.8% to as low as 66.3 % depending on your sources (United States total population is 76%) while the non-religions percent of prisoners ranges from as high as 10.6% to as low as 0.209% for just the atheist group, again depending on your sources (United States total population varies from 6% to 16% depending on the survey). Depending on which statistics you chose to believe depends on if Atheists are more moral than Christians in your eyes. If you take the numbers of prisoners and compare them with the total population then you get this interesting little statistic; for Christians the prison inmates make up either 1.1 times to .87 times the prison population than the total national population. On the flip side the Atheists prison inmates make up either 1.77 times to 0.01 times the prison population than the total national population. These numbers mean that if you average them, Christians prisoners represent 0.985 times the total national population while Atheists (or non-religious) represent .89 times the total national population. Thus in my mind, Atheists are only slightly more moral than Christians.
Can't say it better than Bodhivaka: Morals without expected reward are totally selfless. Obviously not all Christians are not in it for the reward or to avoid punishment, as not all people fit one definition in any group. People behaved with "morals" prior to organized religion, thus religions obtained the morals from people, it doesn't infuse morals into them.
I certainly do not mean to assert that atheists always conduct themselves better than believers, as both sides are perfectly capable of acting morally; therefore, for the purpose of this particular topic, I am assuming that we are addressing the morality of a good atheist versus the morality of a good believer. In such a case, I believe that the atheist, in a sense, is more moral than the believer, seeing as how the believer conducts himself morally with an expectation of eternal reward, while the atheist conducts himself morally with no such expectation. In short, both the believer and the atheist may conduct themselves in an equally good fashion, yet only one does so without any hope of future reward -- we might consider such an attitude to be morally superior.
There's no argument to be made. The religious affiliation of an individual has no effect on that individual's moral values. I do, however, know that humans are capable of morals WITHOUT holding a belief in or fear of an imaginary, bearded fairy in the sky. I do believe, however, that statistics show that Atheists actually have among the lowest crime rates of any religious affiliation or lack thereof.
An atheist is no more moral than a christian and a christian is no more moral than an atheist.
I'm an Apatheist. Not an atheist and I do goodness out of my heart and because I want to help people. I've seen some Christians do it to try to reverse their bad karma and so they can please jesus and that doesn't sound very moral to me.
Having a religion does not mean you have morals. Throughout history, there have been cases where Christians have committed immoral acts. An example of this is the crusades and the conquest of Spain. All people would agree that there are many people that are christian that commit crimes. The dominating religion in American prisons is Christianity.
They do good just because moreso than because their religion requires them for one, but more to the point, they don't judge behavior nearly as much as a Christian would. They have no need to do that, as there is no belief system that tells them what is right or wrong, they decide that for themselves. I think people are much better that way when there's no personal bias that exists on how we are supposed to be living or not living. So yes, I think Atheists can be more moral than Christians, certainly less judgmental, as they don't have some old standard of belief clouding their thinking and how they view people and acts.
Because we don't have the trope of dispensation available, we're often harder on ourselves about our lapses in following our ethical code. We also will often (IME) actively question and test our ethical code against such hard standards as we can find, rather than simply accepting what's handed to us by someone else.
These things give us far less emotional "wiggle room" when we do violate out ethical codes; regardless if that violation was intentional or a simple error.
Atheists will of course say they are morally superior, only because their basis for morality is created within their own minds. It is a completely backward standard. How can one claim to be moral without believing in moral law which can only be given by a moral law giver - God? It is nonsense. With only your own opinion ruling your heart you can justify abortion, promiscuity, pedophilia, murder, whatever you want. With the moral law of the Bible we recognize that we are all equally guilty before God's Law and in need of our Savior Jesus. Are atheists more moral? Nah, they are sinners like everyone else, until they turn from their sin and believe in Christ who can wash away all moral impurity and give everlasting life.
Christians have spent centuries caring for the poor, the sick and the disabled.
The statement that atheists do not commit immoral acts is a lie. Who advocates abortion? Atheists. Who advocates "mercy killing" of sick, disabled and old?" Atheists. Who rejects marriage as outdated and unnecessary? Atheists. The list goes on.
The reference to inmates does not work; none of those who are guilty of their respective crime ended up in jail by following the Christian church's instruction.
To say that atheists are moral is nothing more than a lie born in stupidity and self-service
Both sides are capable of being moral. There are Christians who are more moral than some Atheists, and there are Atheists that are more moral than some Christians. It all depends on the individual people involved No group is inherently more moral or non-moral. morality is of an individual, not a group
Both are big groups of people. And one person in the group being evil or good does not mean that the whole group is evil or good. There are good people and bad people in both groups. Morality depends on many other things, too, so therefore neither are more moral than the other.
Somebody can easily say they're Christian, but if they don't follow their religion, how can they really be considered a "Christian"? So throughout my argument, assume I'm talking about someone that actually follow the religion and isn't insane, (like the idiot "Christians" who advertise just how Christian they are and don't know what they're talking about) Atheists, however, have a completely blank slate. They can have as many morals as they want. Whether that number be great or small. So I'd say the typical Christian is more moral than the typical Atheist.
The "ethics" that Christians are suppose to live by are so outrageously against human nature and for the bettering of the world that no one's beliefs come close.
All people have different sets of morals and different qualities within them, but I consider myself a good, righteous person and I will never match up to the high expectations of Christianity. But that's another point, no one will ever reach the goal of Jesus' perfection which brings the ultimate humility.
Everyone commits immoral acts, but Atheism results in the individual's conscience deciding the rights and wrongs; whereas, Christians have a rule book that go against what human nature believes is right. Psychologically humans respond to whatever makes them happy in that moment, Athiests have nothing but human nature and life experiences to go by. Again, Christians live by a different set of rules that force them to do more along what is right, hurts their ego and self-centered lives, and corrupts the human-nature that we all tend to lean towards.
In general, it's very difficult to say one belief system is "more moral" than any other belief system. There are Christians who are more moral than some Atheists, and there are Atheists that are more moral than some Christians. It all depends on the individual people involved No group is inherently better or worse.
The way the questions is stated is very misleading. It forces us to decide between two groups of people and makes the issue very black and white. In reality, the question of morality is a spectrum and different people view morality in different ways. Not to mention that we have to take into account the fact that there will always be good and bad Atheists and Christians.
There is no group that is inherently more moral than any other in my experience. Even groups that hold to a claimed set of morals (Christians or any other religion), the groups themselves tend not to be any more moral than those around them. This is because no matter what tenets a group claims, there is the same spread of how much people actually follow the tenets. The same is true of atheists. An individual might be more moral, but not a group.
It is irrelevant to say which side are better people. There are plenty "Christians" who do many terrible things. Also many of the people in prison have converted. Atheist often become angry at religious people for "Shoving Religion In There Face" . Aren't you shoving atheism in my face when you tell me God doesn't exist and is fake and imaginary?
If you are an atheist and you read this, think before you start saying that Christians are shoving religion in my face.